Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson

WillMacKenzie · 12-07-2007, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by saints9

I so sick and tired of people downing Reggie Bush, this team has had tons of talent on this team, and just can't win. When Reggie got drafted to New Orleans Saints, I felt sorry for him, because all I knew all that he was going to have was bad luck. And you Saints fans know it true, after 40 years of losing, what is this saying? I want the Saints to win just like the rest of you fans, but for some reason they can't. As for as Manhood, did Arching Manning have manhood? Did Pat Swilling have manhood? Did Bobby Hebert have manhood? Who talks about Reggie Bush like a dog, but was second rate quarterback, who couldn't get the job done. I said that the Fleur de lis was cursing the Saints because it was used for branding black people in slavery, the fans so that's not the problem. Than what is it after 40 years of losing, why can't we win at home in the dome? Fumbling big plays is the norm for the Saints, it didn't start with Reggie Bush. The Saints could have a big lead and just lose the game in the last seconds, you fans should know the script by now. Why is it that win player leave the Saints they play better football for other teams? If some of you fans can answer this question, will you please tell me why? My self personally, the name Saints need to go and the Fleur de lis.

Have you ever been sold a lemon by a used car salesman? The Saints have.

Of course nobody could really have predicted how ineffective Reggie would be.

And let me say this, to Archie Manning and Pat Swilling, Reggie's name has no place until he shows me something serious. He's the Floyd Mayweather of football. : D

Champ Kind · 12-07-2007, 07:37 PM

To the comment WillMcKenzie made.

I think PT is good, but take away that one, touchdown run and he has a 3.0 yrds/carry average.

I think Reggie has done mostly what the coaches expect out of him. It's the media and the fans who have over-hyped him.

saints9 · 12-08-2007, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Have you ever been sold a lemon by a used car salesman? The Saints have.

Of course nobody could really have predicted how ineffective Reggie would be.

And let me say this, to Archie Manning and Pat Swilling, Reggie's name has no place until he shows me something serious. He's the Floyd Mayweather of football. : D

Archie Manning and Pat Swilling couldn't win in New Orleans, no player who's played here ever won, 40 year history of losing. If you call Reggie a lemon, than we have a 40 year history of buying lemon. I see you people jump around the Fleur de lis issue, why would a team put this symbol on a team, than call them Saints?

hagan714 · 12-08-2007, 05:57 AM

New Orleans Saints History officially began on November 1-- All Saints Day-- in 1966.
Not a hard leap of faith to connect religion to anything in the big easy.

Fleur de lis simple put is the symbol of New Orleans. Always has been and all ways will be.

It is an enduring symbol of

France
France

, but, being regarded most notably as the emblem of the monarchy, was not adopted officially by any of the

French republics
French republics

. On the contrary as Spain is a constitutional monarchy, lis symbol is associated with the Spanish King Juan Carlos I (of French origin dinasty) and to the Kingdom of Spain. In

North America
North America

, the fleur-de-lis is often associated with areas formerly settled by France, such as

Quebec
Quebec

and

Louisiana
Louisiana

and with the

Francophones
Francophones

in other Canadian provinces.

Nobody is avoiding the issue. But if you are going to go in the direction I think you are going to go. I strongly urge you to go to the ultimate smack down section of B&G. You are not the first to bring this topic up. That is were it belongs. You will get plenty response there.

G504 · 12-08-2007, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by saints9

Archie Manning and Pat Swilling couldn't win in New Orleans, no player who's played here ever won, 40 year history of losing. If you call Reggie a lemon, than we have a 40 year history of buying lemon.

Co-sign. At the end of the day, it's about winning. Reggie Bush has had us closer to the Superbowl than we've EVER been (of course, not by himself). Adrian Petterson and Maurice Jones-Drew can't say that yet. True, this season's been pretty bad. And Bush has cost us at least 2 games with his fumbles (but again, not by himself). But the season's not over. The playoffs are not impossible. Bush hasn't had a horrible season. He had 97 against Seattle. Now, the milestone is 100, not 97, but the potential is still there. Anybody who wants to question his toughness and desire to win needs to watch that highlight of the 1st Atlanta game again, where he fought two defenders for the touchdown.
We have the best team we've ever had. Now is not the time to start jumping ship and throwing players under the bus. Look how well that worked for Cinny.

CheramieIII · 12-08-2007, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

I'll say it again, reggie isn't being used right. He did great with Deuce in the backfield with him because there was another threat back there. Reggie performs better in a 2 back back field. Put Pierre and Reggie in the backfield at the same time you have the same concept. Who are you going to watch? There would be so many things you could do with that.

What he said!

Nemesis · 12-08-2007, 12:27 PM

AP=Bo. I'd been telling my son about Bo for years, and finally have someone to use as an example.

No shame in Matrix turning out to be a Westbrook, as I envisioned him during the draft. I was never sold on that "Once a lifetime" jazz in the press. Barry? Dickerson? Emmit? Payton? Campbell? Faulk? Come on, now.....

trynaBaFan · 12-08-2007, 01:07 PM

Man you guys are quick to jump off the bandwagon. JOESAM2002 is it OK if I call them fair weather fans. ESPN hype? gimme a break. He was great at SC with or without ESPN. He's struggling this year so we throw him off the boat. Come on guys!!

JOESAM2002 · 12-08-2007, 04:52 PM

Hey, if they'd use him right you never know what he could do. Last year was close but there are still more ways to use Reggie that would make him a better player and us a better team. Reggie will never be a one back player, he has to have someone back there to make him more dangerous. They haven't done that since Deuce got hurt. If they had pulled Branch up back then we might have a better record right now. But what do i know, I've only been watching them for 40 years . This IS the best team the Saints have ever had, sure we need some defensive help but on the offensive side it's the best bunch I've ever seen them have.

12-07-2007, 07:24 PM	#21
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by saints9 I so sick and tired of people downing Reggie Bush, this team has had tons of talent on this team, and just can't win. When Reggie got drafted to New Orleans Saints, I felt sorry for him, because all I knew all that he was going to have was bad luck. And you Saints fans know it true, after 40 years of losing, what is this saying? I want the Saints to win just like the rest of you fans, but for some reason they can't. As for as Manhood, did Arching Manning have manhood? Did Pat Swilling have manhood? Did Bobby Hebert have manhood? Who talks about Reggie Bush like a dog, but was second rate quarterback, who couldn't get the job done. I said that the Fleur de lis was cursing the Saints because it was used for branding black people in slavery, the fans so that's not the problem. Than what is it after 40 years of losing, why can't we win at home in the dome? Fumbling big plays is the norm for the Saints, it didn't start with Reggie Bush. The Saints could have a big lead and just lose the game in the last seconds, you fans should know the script by now. Why is it that win player leave the Saints they play better football for other teams? If some of you fans can answer this question, will you please tell me why? My self personally, the name Saints need to go and the Fleur de lis. Have you ever been sold a lemon by a used car salesman? The Saints have. Of course nobody could really have predicted how ineffective Reggie would be. And let me say this, to Archie Manning and Pat Swilling, Reggie's name has no place until he shows me something serious. He's the Floyd Mayweather of football. : D

12-07-2007, 07:37 PM	#22
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson To the comment WillMcKenzie made. I think PT is good, but take away that one, touchdown run and he has a 3.0 yrds/carry average. I think Reggie has done mostly what the coaches expect out of him. It's the media and the fans who have over-hyped him.

12-08-2007, 05:03 AM	#23
saints9 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 38	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Have you ever been sold a lemon by a used car salesman? The Saints have. Of course nobody could really have predicted how ineffective Reggie would be. And let me say this, to Archie Manning and Pat Swilling, Reggie's name has no place until he shows me something serious. He's the Floyd Mayweather of football. : D Archie Manning and Pat Swilling couldn't win in New Orleans, no player who's played here ever won, 40 year history of losing. If you call Reggie a lemon, than we have a 40 year history of buying lemon. I see you people jump around the Fleur de lis issue, why would a team put this symbol on a team, than call them Saints?
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12-08-2007, 09:45 AM	#25
G504 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 424	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by saints9 Archie Manning and Pat Swilling couldn't win in New Orleans, no player who's played here ever won, 40 year history of losing. If you call Reggie a lemon, than we have a 40 year history of buying lemon. Co-sign. At the end of the day, it's about winning. Reggie Bush has had us closer to the Superbowl than we've EVER been (of course, not by himself). Adrian Petterson and Maurice Jones-Drew can't say that yet. True, this season's been pretty bad. And Bush has cost us at least 2 games with his fumbles (but again, not by himself). But the season's not over. The playoffs are not impossible. Bush hasn't had a horrible season. He had 97 against Seattle. Now, the milestone is 100, not 97, but the potential is still there. Anybody who wants to question his toughness and desire to win needs to watch that highlight of the 1st Atlanta game again, where he fought two defenders for the touchdown. We have the best team we've ever had. Now is not the time to start jumping ship and throwing players under the bus. Look how well that worked for Cinny.
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12-08-2007, 10:02 AM	#26
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 I'll say it again, reggie isn't being used right. He did great with Deuce in the backfield with him because there was another threat back there. Reggie performs better in a 2 back back field. Put Pierre and Reggie in the backfield at the same time you have the same concept. Who are you going to watch? There would be so many things you could do with that. What he said!

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Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson AP=Bo. I'd been telling my son about Bo for years, and finally have someone to use as an example. No shame in Matrix turning out to be a Westbrook, as I envisioned him during the draft. I was never sold on that "Once a lifetime" jazz in the press. Barry? Dickerson? Emmit? Payton? Campbell? Faulk? Come on, now.....

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trynaBaFan Registered Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 59	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Man you guys are quick to jump off the bandwagon. JOESAM2002 is it OK if I call them fair weather fans. ESPN hype? gimme a break. He was great at SC with or without ESPN. He's struggling this year so we throw him off the boat. Come on guys!!
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12-08-2007, 04:52 PM	#29
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson Hey, if they'd use him right you never know what he could do. Last year was close but there are still more ways to use Reggie that would make him a better player and us a better team. Reggie will never be a one back player, he has to have someone back there to make him more dangerous. They haven't done that since Deuce got hurt. If they had pulled Branch up back then we might have a better record right now. But what do i know, I've only been watching them for 40 years . This IS the best team the Saints have ever had, sure we need some defensive help but on the offensive side it's the best bunch I've ever seen them have.
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