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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by geauxldenhustle25 his tackling has been wimpy... although his coverage... yeah he did ok I don't think I need to elaborate on this....

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Old 12-16-2007, 08:09 PM   #11
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Re: David Did Play Well

Originally Posted by geauxldenhustle25 View Post
his tackling has been wimpy... although his coverage... yeah he did ok
I don't think I need to elaborate on this.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:33 PM   #12
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Re: David Did Play Well

3rd and 16 in AZ territory in the 2nd quarter, anyone?
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:13 PM   #13
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Here is what a lot of people don't see when they watch the game.

Lets take MM giving up a TD in the endzone. Who's fault? Saftey! He was suppose to help on the DEEP routes... the deep route was the one MM was covering on. Instead the safety bit on the shorter underneath route that I can't tell who it was covering that WR it appears to be craft. But the point is our safties are getting picked on bigtime. They aren't where they are suppose to be.

Ron Landry of Washington. Rookie out of LSU, whatch that guy play saftey... he is where he is suppose to be and lit up Burress on a deep route. Taunting made it all for not but that is how you play saftey. Our guys are running like chickens with there heads cut off.

I blame our D coaching first and for most for not teaching them how to play disiplined football.

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Re: David Did Play Well

Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
Here is what a lot of people don't see when they watch the game.

Lets take MM giving up a TD in the endzone. Who's fault? Saftey! He was suppose to help on the DEEP routes... the deep route was the one MM was covering on. Instead the safety bit on the shorter underneath route that I can't tell who it was covering that WR it appears to be craft. But the point is our safties are getting picked on bigtime. They aren't where they are suppose to be.

Ron Landry of Washington. Rookie out of LSU, whatch that guy play saftey... he is where he is suppose to be and lit up Burress on a deep route. Taunting made it all for not but that is how you play saftey. Our guys are running like chickens with there heads cut off.

I blame our D coaching first and for most for not teaching them how to play disiplined football.

agreed...LARON is awesome...harper can play like him...but i think having bullocks next to him made him kinda jittery :\
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:26 PM   #15
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Which game?



Just the ones he played in.



You do need to go back and look at the games. I don't know much about football but isn't it the cornerbacks job to cover wide receivers? I may be wrong though but I think that's why they're usually lined up opposite them. Can someone confirm this observation of mines?
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:50 AM   #16
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If you go back and actually look at the games you'll see it was the Safties they were picking on not him. Safties are to often out of place!
Ok, Mr. Saints Game Tape Watcher Guy, please explain to us then, who or what is David supposed to be covering. Or just who are the cornerbacks supposed to cover.

And while you are at it, also explain to us how standing looking at the WR catch a 3rd and 16 pass is not giving up a big play. Oh, yeah, it’s the safeties... silly me..
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:41 AM   #17
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It's the safeties job to cover the receivers.... DUH Tobias. Tape watcher guy knows his stuff.
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Re: David Did Play Well

Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
Here is what a lot of people don't see when they watch the game.

Lets take MM giving up a TD in the endzone. Who's fault? Saftey! He was suppose to help on the DEEP routes... the deep route was the one MM was covering on. Instead the safety bit on the shorter underneath route that I can't tell who it was covering that WR it appears to be craft. But the point is our safties are getting picked on bigtime. They aren't where they are suppose to be...
This post demonstrates understanding of the concept of safety help, but not very good tape evaluation. On that particular play, the offensive play call had a double in route with required the safety to cover the shorter in route, while McKenzie had to cover the deep route. This was because the defense called was "quarters". It just happened to be the right offensive call against that defense (or the wrong defensive call for that offensive play - depending on how you look at it). If the safety hadn't moved up to cover the shorter in, that's who the ball would have went to and the result would have been the same for the offense. Then we'd be complaining how the safety hadn't moved up to cover the shorter route....

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Old 12-17-2007, 10:21 AM   #19
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Everyone is forgetting that the best pass defense is a rush. We just cannot get pressure with the front four, defensive coordinator does not like to blitz/dog because of his personnel (david, bullocks), so we keep playing this zone and hoping they make a mistake. Fugita is the only LB that can get pressure when his number is called. We need to pressure McNabb next week, not let him sit back there and pat the ball.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:54 AM   #20
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David AND Bullocks have played poorly this season. Both may have played well in a game or two, but both have been liabilities.

I really like the way KK has played these last two games. He's no Ed Reed, but teams need role players, too. If we can get a really good CB in Free Agency, I really like our position going into the draft.
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