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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsmissile Pappy, you are truly sad. You were the one comparing the hiring of Ogeron to that of Tomlin. I PROVED to you that they are about as opposite as apples and oranges. So I guess Tomlin ...

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Old 01-25-2008, 08:29 AM   #21
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

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Pappy, you are truly sad. You were the one comparing the hiring of Ogeron to that of Tomlin. I PROVED to you that they are about as opposite as apples and oranges. So I guess Tomlin had future, budding all pro's at CINCY and therefore his coaching was not as good as say, oh yeah, Ogeron who supposedly could recruit talent as good as anyone in the land! See what I did there, I made you look like your arguement is much like your head. Full of holes. You sit here and compare Tomlin getting a pro job to that of Ogeron. I bring you FACTS that Tomlin moved up to the pro's after an outstanding last season in college. I also bring up Ogeron's PATHETIC record at Ole Miss, yet you dismiss it and say, oh well, who cares what he did at Ole Miss. Forget he only won THREE games against quality SEC opponents. He should be hired in the big leagues by a team who was pathetic on defense the year before.
Clearly my point flew right over your head... which was expected. I used your own argument against you and you still didn't get it. I suggest you go back to page two re-read what you wrote on page 2, understand it, and re-read my last post. If you still don't get it, oh well.

Here you go big shot, how many college coaches who were fired at the college level go on the be HEAD coaches in the NFL? Good luck finding that list.
He's becoming a defensive line coach... not head coach. So I really don't get the point that you're making. Come on let's try to stay focused on the subject at hand.

Yeah, man, I'm pretty weak.
That you are... that you are.

On the Gibbs subject, seem to remember him having some pretty good talent at Dallas, yet....... Also had some pretty good talent at Oklahoma when he was there and ............
Yet you still don't get the point he's making. Sad.

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Old 01-25-2008, 08:54 AM   #22
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

just a quick read on orgeron.....

SunHerald.com : COACH O WILL HELP SAINTS' D

"Orgeron was known for his recruiting prowess more than anything while at USC and many of the players suiting up for this week's Senior Bowl events played for the Trojans because of Orgeron.

He recruited highly touted USC defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis and linebacker Keith Rivers, both of whom were probably already on the Saints' radar for April's draft."
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:05 AM   #23
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

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On the Gibbs subject, seem to remember him having some pretty good talent at Dallas, yet....... Also had some pretty good talent at Oklahoma when he was there and ............
2005 Dallas had 10th ranked Defense in NFL
2004 Dallas had 16th ranked Defense in NFL
2003 Dallas had 1st ranked Defense in NFL

he did have some good talent in Dallas, and as LB coach there, he did a good job.

At Oklahoma he served as D Coordinator from 1981-88, won Nat. Champ in 1985, defense led the NCAA for three years 1985,86, and 87. I'd say when he's got talent, he does a good job.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:20 AM   #24
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

saintsmissile... you are just mad because Ogeron and Ole Miss gave LSU all they could handle the past two years in a row. Stop your whining, its not like he'll be calling any plays.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:07 AM   #25
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

I'm pretty sure being a positions coach is pretty universal. If anything, it would be easier in the pros as he'll have a much greater pool of talent to draw from.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:51 AM   #26
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

One of Orgeron's biggest fans appears to be Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin. As Orgeron spoke with a group of reporters about taking the Saints' job, Kiffin chimed in and gave his opinion on Orgeron, who worked with his son, Lane Kiffin, under Carroll at USC. Lane Kiffin just completed his first season as Oakland Raiders coach.

"Let me say something right here, men: This is a ball coach," Kiffin said as he hugged and congratulated Orgeron. "I'm going to tell you right now this guy can flat coach. If you are a great coach, it doesn't matter what level you are at; he will be a great coach in the NFL. I love this guy."

Rivals.com College Football - Orgeron heads to NFL for post with Saints

missle, I appreciate your enthusiasm, passion for Saints success, and opinions, however, in this case Monte Kiffin opinion takes precedent!

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Old 01-25-2008, 03:51 PM   #27
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Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

I say give him a chance. In fact, I'm somewhat excited about the potential here.
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