Free agent bits and pieces......

papz · 01-25-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I don't know about you guys, but I'd give up a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat to get Roy Williams. Thoughts?

Oh we've had a very long discussion on that already.

It's probably a page or two back.

Sounds like that Haynesworth deal could get nasty if they don't get something worked out. I'd love to have him in N.O. I'd trade our first rounder for that guy.

If it gets nasty, they'll just franchise him and wait it out... pretty much like the Briggs and Samuels' situation last year. He isn't going anywhere. It's amazing how night and day their defense is with Haynesworth in that lineup... the same with Bob Sanders.

Cancer Beater · 01-25-2008, 04:38 PM

Somehow New England will get Haynesworth.

Bobaganoosh · 01-25-2008, 09:26 PM

I agree with the idea of NOT trading our picks for offensive players including Roy williams. I dont think giving up a 2nd for Roy Williams makes a lot of sense for our team...i think that would be a good deal for someone else, not for us.

Whether you guys believe me or not, i do think this is the year that you hear the saints at least mentioned in the pursuit of a few big name free agents. I will not go so far as to say that we will land one, but i do think the saints will be willing to open up a bit for someone on the defensive side of the ball.

SoulStar · 01-27-2008, 02:46 PM

Just how much money are you guys ready to spend on the offense here in New Orleans. Some of you say you want Roy Williams, but the Lions are afraid he is going to ask for the bank when he becomes a free agent in two years.

Thats why they are trying to dump him off on someone, it would be intresting to see Colston and Williams on the same team, but we have a ton of cash, and Resigning W.Smith and Colston and the offenseive Linemen who are free agents should come first. Then bring in the def playmakers.

hagan714 · 01-27-2008, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

I agree with the idea of NOT trading our picks for offensive players including Roy williams. I dont think giving up a 2nd for Roy Williams makes a lot of sense for our team...i think that would be a good deal for someone else, not for us.

Whether you guys believe me or not, i do think this is the year that you hear the saints at least mentioned in the pursuit of a few big name free agents. I will not go so far as to say that we will land one, but i do think the saints will be willing to open up a bit for someone on the defensive side of the ball.

I agree with you Bob we just have to wait and see who.

Here is an option on Williams. Trade down in the first. 10 to 15 is worth 250 points or the 4th pick in the 3rd round. Then put a conditional pick on signing him to an extension for 2009 in the 2009 draft. That to me is do able. Much like the deal we got with Phili in the Stallworth deal. We may have to do a 3rd to 2nd instead of the 4th to 3rd we got for Donte.

If Meachem develops as we hope, we may not need to sign him. Then for once we can start to play the comp pick game. He should bring at least a 3rd or maybe a second if we are lucky. Cash in one year later. Just a thought

saintsrule · 01-28-2008, 01:14 AM

The Saints would have to overpay for a big time player to come here, and they do not want to do that.

biloxi-indian · 01-28-2008, 04:50 PM

Titans Haynesworth: The 6.3 million dollar man?

How much will it take to keep Albert Haynesworth a Tennessee Titan? At the minimum, it will take $6.363 million. That is the 2008 franchise tag number that is expected to be officially released later this week by the NFL Players Association for defensive tackles entering free agency, according to a league source. Those numbers are arrived at from averaging the top five salaries of defensive tackles from across the NFL. If the Titans franchise Haynesworth, he would receive that salary for 2008 until a long-term contract extension could be completed and would not be awarded any signing bonus. That number is actually down slightly from last year's $6.775 million. To keep Haynesworth in the fold long-term, a new contract could be well into eight figures. -- Nashville City Paper

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Cards GM Rod Graves and Kirk Wood, the agent for linebacker Karlos Dansby, talked on the phone last week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala. But no progress was made toward a new contract for Dansby, and it appears more likely than ever that the team will place the franchise tag on Dansby later this month. -- Arizona Republic

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iceshack149 · 01-28-2008, 05:49 PM

Insanity is defined as seeing the same breast over, over, and over again...and expecting one to disappear.

I feel like my beer goggles are on. That's cooky stuff, BI.

biloxi-indian · 01-28-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Insanity is defined as seeing the same breast over, over, and over again...and expecting one to disappear.

I feel like my beer goggles are on. That's cooky stuff, BI.

Ever hear of cloning? My goal is to create chaos, and insanity at Victoria's Secret! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

TheDeuce · 01-28-2008, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

I agree with the idea of NOT trading our picks for offensive players including Roy williams. I dont think giving up a 2nd for Roy Williams makes a lot of sense for our team...i think that would be a good deal for someone else, not for us.

Whether you guys believe me or not, i do think this is the year that you hear the saints at least mentioned in the pursuit of a few big name free agents. I will not go so far as to say that we will land one, but i do think the saints will be willing to open up a bit for someone on the defensive side of the ball.

I understand the principle behind what you "all defense or nothing" guys are saying. However, we have to understand what's going to happen in reality. In reality, I know that the Saints aren't going to fully address the defensive situation. I know that they are going to go after an offensive player, so why not make it a guy who, matched with Drew Brees, has the potential to be the best wide receiver in the NFC? If you came up to me and said that you would give me a proven Pro Bowl caliber player for a second round pick, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Nothing is certain in the draft. Give me that proven entity for an unsure thing any day of the week, even if he does play offense. Since we won't go out and get a big-time defensive playmaker, we mine as well have a helluva offensive player.

01-25-2008, 02:36 PM	#11
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Free agent bits and pieces...... Originally Posted by TheDeuce I don't know about you guys, but I'd give up a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat to get Roy Williams. Thoughts? Oh we've had a very long discussion on that already. It's probably a page or two back. Sounds like that Haynesworth deal could get nasty if they don't get something worked out. I'd love to have him in N.O. I'd trade our first rounder for that guy. If it gets nasty, they'll just franchise him and wait it out... pretty much like the Briggs and Samuels' situation last year. He isn't going anywhere. It's amazing how night and day their defense is with Haynesworth in that lineup... the same with Bob Sanders.

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01-25-2008, 09:26 PM	#13
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01-27-2008, 02:46 PM	#14
SoulStar 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arlington Tx Posts: 157	Re: Free agent bits and pieces...... Just how much money are you guys ready to spend on the offense here in New Orleans. Some of you say you want Roy Williams, but the Lions are afraid he is going to ask for the bank when he becomes a free agent in two years. Thats why they are trying to dump him off on someone, it would be intresting to see Colston and Williams on the same team, but we have a ton of cash, and Resigning W.Smith and Colston and the offenseive Linemen who are free agents should come first. Then bring in the def playmakers.
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01-27-2008, 06:38 PM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Free agent bits and pieces...... Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh I agree with the idea of NOT trading our picks for offensive players including Roy williams. I dont think giving up a 2nd for Roy Williams makes a lot of sense for our team...i think that would be a good deal for someone else, not for us. Whether you guys believe me or not, i do think this is the year that you hear the saints at least mentioned in the pursuit of a few big name free agents. I will not go so far as to say that we will land one, but i do think the saints will be willing to open up a bit for someone on the defensive side of the ball. I agree with you Bob we just have to wait and see who. Here is an option on Williams. Trade down in the first. 10 to 15 is worth 250 points or the 4th pick in the 3rd round. Then put a conditional pick on signing him to an extension for 2009 in the 2009 draft. That to me is do able. Much like the deal we got with Phili in the Stallworth deal. We may have to do a 3rd to 2nd instead of the 4th to 3rd we got for Donte. If Meachem develops as we hope, we may not need to sign him. Then for once we can start to play the comp pick game. He should bring at least a 3rd or maybe a second if we are lucky. Cash in one year later. Just a thought
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biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Free agent bits and pieces...... Titans Haynesworth: The 6.3 million dollar man? How much will it take to keep Albert Haynesworth a Tennessee Titan? At the minimum, it will take $6.363 million. That is the 2008 franchise tag number that is expected to be officially released later this week by the NFL Players Association for defensive tackles entering free agency, according to a league source. Those numbers are arrived at from averaging the top five salaries of defensive tackles from across the NFL. If the Titans franchise Haynesworth, he would receive that salary for 2008 until a long-term contract extension could be completed and would not be awarded any signing bonus. That number is actually down slightly from last year's $6.775 million. To keep Haynesworth in the fold long-term, a new contract could be well into eight figures. -- Nashville City Paper Cards expected to tag LB Dansby? Cards GM Rod Graves and Kirk Wood, the agent for linebacker Karlos Dansby, talked on the phone last week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala. But no progress was made toward a new contract for Dansby, and it appears more likely than ever that the team will place the franchise tag on Dansby later this month. -- Arizona Republic FOX Sports on MSN - Rumors - Ben Maller's NFL rumors
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01-28-2008, 05:49 PM	#18
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,089 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Free agent bits and pieces...... Insanity is defined as seeing the same breast over, over, and over again...and expecting one to disappear. I feel like my beer goggles are on. That's cooky stuff, BI.

01-28-2008, 06:33 PM	#19
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Free agent bits and pieces...... Originally Posted by iceshack149 Insanity is defined as seeing the same breast over, over, and over again...and expecting one to disappear. I feel like my beer goggles are on. That's cooky stuff, BI. Ever hear of cloning? My goal is to create chaos, and insanity at Victoria's Secret! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

01-28-2008, 08:48 PM	#20
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Free agent bits and pieces...... Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh I agree with the idea of NOT trading our picks for offensive players including Roy williams. I dont think giving up a 2nd for Roy Williams makes a lot of sense for our team...i think that would be a good deal for someone else, not for us. Whether you guys believe me or not, i do think this is the year that you hear the saints at least mentioned in the pursuit of a few big name free agents. I will not go so far as to say that we will land one, but i do think the saints will be willing to open up a bit for someone on the defensive side of the ball. I understand the principle behind what you "all defense or nothing" guys are saying. However, we have to understand what's going to happen in reality. In reality, I know that the Saints aren't going to fully address the defensive situation. I know that they are going to go after an offensive player, so why not make it a guy who, matched with Drew Brees, has the potential to be the best wide receiver in the NFC? If you came up to me and said that you would give me a proven Pro Bowl caliber player for a second round pick, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Nothing is certain in the draft. Give me that proven entity for an unsure thing any day of the week, even if he does play offense. Since we won't go out and get a big-time defensive playmaker, we mine as well have a helluva offensive player.
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