Bears release WR Muhammed

stockman311 · 02-19-2008, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

Guys, Muhammed is washed up...has been for a while now. He would not be able to come in here and do anything more that what Lance Moore did last year. The guy is done. I would not be surprised to see him have season in 2008 like Horn did in 2007....he is a complete afterthought.

Agreed!

We need Defense. Any attempt to go after anyone in Free Agency on the offense except for G or TE seems ludicrous at this time.

Tobias-Reiper · 02-19-2008, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

Guys, Muhammed is washed up...has been for a while now. He would not be able to come in here and do anything more that what Lance Moore did last year. The guy is done. I would not be surprised to see him have season in 2008 like Horn did in 2007....he is a complete afterthought.

..dude, that's a really strong statement. Mohamed was with the Bears for the past 3 years, in a horrible pass offense. You can't say he's washed up, unless you are equating a receiver being washed up to being on an offense that just plain don't throw the ball because none of the QB's on the roster can.

QBREES9 · 02-19-2008, 09:15 PM

what about Marty Booker. Younger faster

papz · 02-19-2008, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

..dude, that's a really strong statement. Mohamed was with the Bears for the past 3 years, in a horrible pass offense. You can't say he's washed up, unless you are equating a receiver being washed up to being on an offense that just plain don't throw the ball because none of the QB's on the roster can.

Ditto. You know from the lack of usage of receivers in that horrid offense, Mushin might have added a couple of years left in the league.

He may or may not be washed up... no one knows that. It wouldn't hurt to bring him in for a visit. There isn't much depth there at WR with all the free agents we have. Though he wouldn't be my first or maybe even 10th choice, but what's there to lose with a harmless visit.

hagan714 · 02-20-2008, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

what about Marty Booker. Younger faster

he is 4 years younger. while 31 beats 35 that is not the direction i would go. pass. lets start talking under 30 please. Go for broke and get
Bryant Johnson, 6-3, 216, 26, Arizona Cardinals
IMO he is a perfect fit for the our style of offense. He can play 1,2 and the #3. 4 year deal and we are set. Would give Mech time to develope and god knows how good he could be with Drew throwing the ball. Both contracts would expire at the same time and then you pick which player you keep. He would keep Colston from getting beat up too. He has been trapped behind some pretty good WR. His contract might not be so bad either. Insentatives would be high but the base would be ok

SapperSaint · 02-20-2008, 07:55 AM

Tough call on him, but T-R and Papz make great points. He didn't have a good QB, and I think under Drew, he could have a great year. Heck, sign to a one year contract and go from there.

Bobaganoosh · 02-20-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

..dude, that's a really strong statement. Mohamed was with the Bears for the past 3 years, in a horrible pass offense. You can't say he's washed up, unless you are equating a receiver being washed up to being on an offense that just plain don't throw the ball because none of the QB's on the roster can.

So ALL of it is the qb's fault? You know, Bernard Berrian has been on the same team with him for the last 3 years and he is a free agent too and people seem to have interest in him. Because he still has something left. Moose does not. Roddy White was able to have a career year with Harrington, Leftwich and Redman. Berrian has been solid the last two years with the Bears. Moose wasnt even a contributer when they went to the Super Bowl. The guy is done.

Tobias-Reiper · 02-20-2008, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

So ALL of it is the qb's fault? You know, Bernard Berrian has been on the same team with him for the last 3 years and he is a free agent too and people seem to have interest in him. Because he still has something left. Moose does not. Roddy White was able to have a career year with Harrington, Leftwich and Redman. Berrian has been solid the last two years with the Bears. Moose wasnt even a contributer when they went to the Super Bowl. The guy is done.

Bob, have you seen the Bears play? And more importantly, have you seen Grossman, Griese, and/or Orton play QB?

As for Berrian, what do you mean by "he still has something left"? ??He's only 27!!. And I can see teams being more interested in him than Moose because he is young, and because no one really knows what he can do with an actual NFL QB since he's really never played with one, but it's not like he's been lighting it up. Last season was the best season of his career by far,and even though he was the primary receiver, and only had 71 catches, and didn't break 1000 yds. The prior 3 years, he was a non-factor, and actually was out-played by Muhammad in 2006 and 2005.

Again, I'm not saying that Muhammad is great, but you can't say he's washed up and that he's been washed up for a while based on him playing the last 3 years for the Bears.

Bobaganoosh · 02-20-2008, 01:38 PM

What i mean by he has something left is the fact that he actually has something left and Moose doesnt. I know he is only 27, but he is not being looked down at because he played with the Bears. Moose is 35...is that not registering with you. I will be if you ask any Bears fan they will tell you he is washed up. just like last year, any real Saints fan would have told the people in atlanta that Horn was washed up. Moose played every game last year and only caught 40 passes. Do you think he would come in here and top that? of course he wouldnt. Do you think he would be anything better than our 4th option here? of course he wouldnt. Do you think that he thinks New Orleans is the ideal place for him? of course not. He is not someone that do anything good for this team.

yeah lets bring in a 35 year old receiver...thats just what we need.

papz · 02-20-2008, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

So ALL of it is the qb's fault? You know, Bernard Berrian has been on the same team with him for the last 3 years and he is a free agent too and people seem to have interest in him. Because he still has something left. Moose does not. Roddy White was able to have a career year with Harrington, Leftwich and Redman. Berrian has been solid the last two years with the Bears. Moose wasnt even a contributer when they went to the Super Bowl. The guy is done.

Carolina Panthers general manager Marty Hurney said he plans to inquire about two well-known veteran players who were officially released by other teams on Tuesday -- tight end Alge Crumpler and receiver Muhsin Muhammad.

-- Gaston Gazette

One would think Berrian would have something left in the tank as he's only 27 and entering his prime.

Atlanta threw the ball 40 times a game... someone's got to catch the ball.

02-19-2008, 03:00 PM	#11
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh Guys, Muhammed is washed up...has been for a while now. He would not be able to come in here and do anything more that what Lance Moore did last year. The guy is done. I would not be surprised to see him have season in 2008 like Horn did in 2007....he is a complete afterthought. Agreed! We need Defense. Any attempt to go after anyone in Free Agency on the offense except for G or TE seems ludicrous at this time.

02-19-2008, 08:24 PM	#12
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh Guys, Muhammed is washed up...has been for a while now. He would not be able to come in here and do anything more that what Lance Moore did last year. The guy is done. I would not be surprised to see him have season in 2008 like Horn did in 2007....he is a complete afterthought. ..dude, that's a really strong statement. Mohamed was with the Bears for the past 3 years, in a horrible pass offense. You can't say he's washed up, unless you are equating a receiver being washed up to being on an offense that just plain don't throw the ball because none of the QB's on the roster can.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ..dude, that's a really strong statement. Mohamed was with the Bears for the past 3 years, in a horrible pass offense. You can't say he's washed up, unless you are equating a receiver being washed up to being on an offense that just plain don't throw the ball because none of the QB's on the roster can. Ditto. You know from the lack of usage of receivers in that horrid offense, Mushin might have added a couple of years left in the league. He may or may not be washed up... no one knows that. It wouldn't hurt to bring him in for a visit. There isn't much depth there at WR with all the free agents we have. Though he wouldn't be my first or maybe even 10th choice, but what's there to lose with a harmless visit.

02-20-2008, 04:21 AM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Originally Posted by QBREES9 what about Marty Booker. Younger faster he is 4 years younger. while 31 beats 35 that is not the direction i would go. pass. lets start talking under 30 please. Go for broke and get Bryant Johnson, 6-3, 216, 26, Arizona Cardinals IMO he is a perfect fit for the our style of offense. He can play 1,2 and the #3. 4 year deal and we are set. Would give Mech time to develope and god knows how good he could be with Drew throwing the ball. Both contracts would expire at the same time and then you pick which player you keep. He would keep Colston from getting beat up too. He has been trapped behind some pretty good WR. His contract might not be so bad either. Insentatives would be high but the base would be ok
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02-20-2008, 07:55 AM	#16
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Tough call on him, but T-R and Papz make great points. He didn't have a good QB, and I think under Drew, he could have a great year. Heck, sign to a one year contract and go from there.

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Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ..dude, that's a really strong statement. Mohamed was with the Bears for the past 3 years, in a horrible pass offense. You can't say he's washed up, unless you are equating a receiver being washed up to being on an offense that just plain don't throw the ball because none of the QB's on the roster can. So ALL of it is the qb's fault? You know, Bernard Berrian has been on the same team with him for the last 3 years and he is a free agent too and people seem to have interest in him. Because he still has something left. Moose does not. Roddy White was able to have a career year with Harrington, Leftwich and Redman. Berrian has been solid the last two years with the Bears. Moose wasnt even a contributer when they went to the Super Bowl. The guy is done.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh So ALL of it is the qb's fault? You know, Bernard Berrian has been on the same team with him for the last 3 years and he is a free agent too and people seem to have interest in him. Because he still has something left. Moose does not. Roddy White was able to have a career year with Harrington, Leftwich and Redman. Berrian has been solid the last two years with the Bears. Moose wasnt even a contributer when they went to the Super Bowl. The guy is done. Bob, have you seen the Bears play? And more importantly, have you seen Grossman, Griese, and/or Orton play QB? As for Berrian, what do you mean by "he still has something left"? ??He's only 27!!. And I can see teams being more interested in him than Moose because he is young, and because no one really knows what he can do with an actual NFL QB since he's really never played with one, but it's not like he's been lighting it up. Last season was the best season of his career by far,and even though he was the primary receiver, and only had 71 catches, and didn't break 1000 yds. The prior 3 years, he was a non-factor, and actually was out-played by Muhammad in 2006 and 2005. Again, I'm not saying that Muhammad is great, but you can't say he's washed up and that he's been washed up for a while based on him playing the last 3 years for the Bears.
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Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed What i mean by he has something left is the fact that he actually has something left and Moose doesnt. I know he is only 27, but he is not being looked down at because he played with the Bears. Moose is 35...is that not registering with you. I will be if you ask any Bears fan they will tell you he is washed up. just like last year, any real Saints fan would have told the people in atlanta that Horn was washed up. Moose played every game last year and only caught 40 passes. Do you think he would come in here and top that? of course he wouldnt. Do you think he would be anything better than our 4th option here? of course he wouldnt. Do you think that he thinks New Orleans is the ideal place for him? of course not. He is not someone that do anything good for this team. yeah lets bring in a 35 year old receiver...thats just what we need.
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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Bears release WR Muhammed Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh So ALL of it is the qb's fault? You know, Bernard Berrian has been on the same team with him for the last 3 years and he is a free agent too and people seem to have interest in him. Because he still has something left. Moose does not. Roddy White was able to have a career year with Harrington, Leftwich and Redman. Berrian has been solid the last two years with the Bears. Moose wasnt even a contributer when they went to the Super Bowl. The guy is done. Carolina Panthers general manager Marty Hurney said he plans to inquire about two well-known veteran players who were officially released by other teams on Tuesday -- tight end Alge Crumpler and receiver Muhsin Muhammad. -- Gaston Gazette One would think Berrian would have something left in the tank as he's only 27 and entering his prime. Atlanta threw the ball 40 times a game... someone's got to catch the ball.