Sammy Knight

Halo · 03-03-2008, 09:40 PM

Sammy Knight officially a Giant

he Giants have officially signed S Sammy Knight. According to someone familiar with the terms of the deal, it's a three-year, $5.15-million contract with a $1.25-million signing bonus. Not a bad deal for both sides after Knight signed a one-year, $820k deal with Jacksonville last year.

winmill1 · 03-03-2008, 09:41 PM

Sammy didn't look old and slow last year. He made plays and laid pipe. Pak I am sensing your not a Sammy fan.

Halo · 03-03-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by winmill1

Sammy didn't look old and slow last year. He made plays and laid pipe. Pak I am sensing your not a Sammy fan.

Fan or not, he'll finish his career a Giant. Sammy was big for a while and his popularity faded. I think Pak was saying that we need some new blood and younger talent for the long term then to bring back an aging veteran. Regardless, I thought he was an asset to the team and we missed out on some of his more productive years.

winmill1 · 03-03-2008, 09:46 PM

I don't care young, old, whatever we just need a headhunter that makes recievers think a little bit before they catch the ball.

winmill1 · 03-03-2008, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Fan or not, he'll finish his career a Giant. Sammy was big for a while and his popularity faded. I think Pak was saying that we need some new blood and younger talent for the long term then to bring back an aging veteran. Regardless, I thought he was an asset to the team and we missed out on some of his more productive years.

Yeah I see what your saying. I like Harper and think he will be better this year but Bullocks seems to have a ways to go. Bullocks seems lost at times.

pakowitz · 03-03-2008, 09:56 PM

no, actually i liked sammy and i didnt like it when he was let go but he hasnt really produced since he was here and i want us to get younger on D and faster.. we have a good window to win a SB here right now and old players arent going to cut it...

winmill1 · 03-03-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

no, actually i liked sammy and i didnt like it when he was let go but he hasnt really produced since he was here and i want us to get younger on D and faster.. we have a good window to win a SB here right now and old players arent going to cut it...

Let me ask you this- do you think the quality of play from our cornerbacks(precisely David) made our safeties look worse that they are, and with the addition of Gay do you think our safeties will look better?

pakowitz · 03-03-2008, 10:56 PM

no, actually i think the opposite... i think the crappy coverage skills of bullocks made david look worse then he actually is.. i think harper played well at times and should be better this year since he actually only got to play 1 year ( he was injured his rookie season).. i really hope we pick up another safety b/c bullocks has regressed every year and it looks to be the same this season

i also think that David, coming from a team that played cover 2, really relied on our safetys to play over the top when they were actually supposed to.. and bullocks' routine to always bite on play-action left us vulnerable to the deep ball....

LordOfEntropy · 03-04-2008, 03:05 AM

I like your assessment Pak. But tell me this - which safeties are you targeting in the offseason... do you have a choice on FA or draft? If draft, in which rounds?

hagan714 · 03-04-2008, 06:20 AM

The defense as a whole stunk the dome up against the pass. We stopped the run well but at the cost of pass defense. Our team is not built to do both. Now we can have a shoot at doing both. Vilma needs to play by mid season even in spot duty. Gay and Young need to both step up at CB. david needs to moved into the slot at the 3 position. Most importantly Bullocks needs to regain his form from two years ago and move forward. A DL that can react fast enough against the run when in pass defense is the big thing up front. Youth is key here. We were always a step off last year. We are moving in the right direction lets just wait and see what other moves are made.

03-03-2008, 09:40 PM	#11
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,205 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Sammy Knight Sammy Knight officially a Giant he Giants have officially signed S Sammy Knight. According to someone familiar with the terms of the deal, it's a three-year, $5.15-million contract with a $1.25-million signing bonus. Not a bad deal for both sides after Knight signed a one-year, $820k deal with Jacksonville last year.

03-03-2008, 09:41 PM	#12
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: Sammy Knight Sammy didn't look old and slow last year. He made plays and laid pipe. Pak I am sensing your not a Sammy fan.
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03-03-2008, 09:45 PM	#13
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,205 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Sammy Knight Originally Posted by winmill1 Sammy didn't look old and slow last year. He made plays and laid pipe. Pak I am sensing your not a Sammy fan. Fan or not, he'll finish his career a Giant. Sammy was big for a while and his popularity faded. I think Pak was saying that we need some new blood and younger talent for the long term then to bring back an aging veteran. Regardless, I thought he was an asset to the team and we missed out on some of his more productive years.

03-03-2008, 09:46 PM	#14
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: Sammy Knight I don't care young, old, whatever we just need a headhunter that makes recievers think a little bit before they catch the ball.
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423

03-03-2008, 09:49 PM	#15
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: Sammy Knight Originally Posted by Halo Fan or not, he'll finish his career a Giant. Sammy was big for a while and his popularity faded. I think Pak was saying that we need some new blood and younger talent for the long term then to bring back an aging veteran. Regardless, I thought he was an asset to the team and we missed out on some of his more productive years. Yeah I see what your saying. I like Harper and think he will be better this year but Bullocks seems to have a ways to go. Bullocks seems lost at times.
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03-03-2008, 09:56 PM	#16
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Sammy Knight no, actually i liked sammy and i didnt like it when he was let go but he hasnt really produced since he was here and i want us to get younger on D and faster.. we have a good window to win a SB here right now and old players arent going to cut it...

03-03-2008, 09:59 PM	#17
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: Sammy Knight Originally Posted by pakowitz no, actually i liked sammy and i didnt like it when he was let go but he hasnt really produced since he was here and i want us to get younger on D and faster.. we have a good window to win a SB here right now and old players arent going to cut it... Let me ask you this- do you think the quality of play from our cornerbacks(precisely David) made our safeties look worse that they are, and with the addition of Gay do you think our safeties will look better?
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03-03-2008, 10:56 PM	#18
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Sammy Knight no, actually i think the opposite... i think the crappy coverage skills of bullocks made david look worse then he actually is.. i think harper played well at times and should be better this year since he actually only got to play 1 year ( he was injured his rookie season).. i really hope we pick up another safety b/c bullocks has regressed every year and it looks to be the same this season i also think that David, coming from a team that played cover 2, really relied on our safetys to play over the top when they were actually supposed to.. and bullocks' routine to always bite on play-action left us vulnerable to the deep ball....
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03-04-2008, 03:05 AM	#19
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Sammy Knight I like your assessment Pak. But tell me this - which safeties are you targeting in the offseason... do you have a choice on FA or draft? If draft, in which rounds?

03-04-2008, 06:20 AM	#20
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sammy Knight The defense as a whole stunk the dome up against the pass. We stopped the run well but at the cost of pass defense. Our team is not built to do both. Now we can have a shoot at doing both. Vilma needs to play by mid season even in spot duty. Gay and Young need to both step up at CB. david needs to moved into the slot at the 3 position. Most importantly Bullocks needs to regain his form from two years ago and move forward. A DL that can react fast enough against the run when in pass defense is the big thing up front. Youth is key here. We were always a step off last year. We are moving in the right direction lets just wait and see what other moves are made.
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