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Old 03-20-2008, 07:01 PM   #11
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Ed Orgeron, regarded as one of college football’s premier defensive line coaches and recruiters, is in his third season as head coach of the Ole Miss Rebels, having been named the 35th head football coach in the history of The University of Mississippi on December 16, 2004.

Orgeron, who took control of the Ole Miss football program after serving the previous seven seasons as defensive line coach at the University of Southern California, played a key role in Pete Carroll’s Trojans winning national championships in 2003 and 2004. He joined the USC staff in January of 1998, took on the added responsibility of recruiting coordinator for the Trojans in 2001, and was then named assistant head coach in 2003.

USC’s 2002, 2003 and 2004 recruiting classes were ranked among the nation’s Top 5, with the 2003 and 2004 groups listed by many as No. 1, and Orgeron was named the 2004 National Recruiter of the Year by The Sporting News and Rivals.com.

Following a disappointing 3-8 finish in 2005, Orgeron’s talent as a recruiter drew national attention when Ole Miss’ 2006 signing class ranked ninth in the final national rankings. According to SuperPrep, it was the “best Ole Miss class that’s been put together since football recruiting analysis has been a media subject matter. Call it the Orgeron Factor – as in Ed Orgeron.”

The ranking shouldn’t have been a surprise, especially since Orgeron’s first Ole Miss recruiting class in 2005 resulted in a No. 29 final ranking, an accomplishment realized with only six weeks remaining to haul in his initial Rebel class. What made that No. 29 spot stand out was the fact that it was the highest Ole Miss finish ever in SuperPrep’s ranking until the most recent success. In the previous 10 years before Orgeron, the Rebels ranged from 31 to 46 on six occasions and were unranked four times.

Orgeron's second Ole Miss team finished 4-8 in 2006, but showed improvement over his first team as the Rebels came close to finishing 8-4, losing overtime games at Alabama and LSU, while dropping a five-point decision to Georgia and suffering a six-point loss to Auburn. He then turned his attention to recruiting and promptly landed another nationally ranked class.

In 2003, Orgeron guided USC’s highly regarded “Wild Bunch II” defensive line (ends Kenechi Udeze, Omar Nazel and Frostee Rucker and tackles Shaun Cody and Mike Patterson) as the Trojans led the nation in rushing defense. Udeze was a consensus All-America first teamer and an NFL first round pick, while Udeze, Cody and Patterson all earned All-Pac-10 first team honors (the most defensive line first teamers from any league school since Washington State also had three in 1994). In 1998, Trojan defensive tackle Ennis Davis was named to the All-Pac-10 first team.

During his seven years at USC, the Trojans played in the 1998 Sun Bowl, 2001 Las Vegas Bowl, 2003 Orange Bowl, 2004 Rose Bowl, and 2005 Orange Bowl.

Orgeron, 46, has 22 years of coaching experience. Prior to joining the USC staff, he was defensive line coach at Syracuse for three seasons (1995-97), and the Orange played in a bowl game each year (1996 Gator, 1996 Liberty and 1997 Fiesta). He came to Syracuse from Nicholls State, where he was the linebackers coach in 1994.

He was also the defensive line coach at Miami for four seasons (1989-92), where he coached eight All-Americans, including NFL first rounders Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp. In 1988, he was a graduate assistant at Miami, working with the defensive line. During his tenure at Miami, the Hurricanes won the national championship twice (1989 and 1991), finished second in the Associated Press poll once (1988) and third twice (1990 and 1992), while appearing in five New Year’s Day bowls (1989 Orange, 1990 Sugar, 1991 Cotton, 1992 Orange, 1993 Sugar).

Orgeron got his start in coaching as a graduate assistant at Northwestern (La.) State, his alma mater, in 1984 and was also a graduate assistant at McNeese State in 1985, working with the defensive line at both schools. He then served as an assistant strength coach at Arkansas for two years (1986-87) as the Razorbacks participated in the 1987 Orange Bowl and 1987 Liberty Bowl. Orgeron worked in private business in 1993.

After compiling an outstanding prep career in football, basketball and track at South Lafourche High School in Galliano, La., Orgeron went on to become a four-year starting defensive lineman at Northwestern (La.) State, captaining the Demons as a senior. He received his Bachelor’s Degree in Liberal Arts from Northwestern State in 1984. Orgeron was recently named to Northwestern State’s Top 100 Players in 100 Years of Demon Football.

Orgeron, who was born on July 27, 1961, and his wife, Kelly, have three sons, Tyler, 15, and 9-year-old twins Parker and Cody.

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Old 03-20-2008, 10:58 PM   #13
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I know some folks think Orgeron is a bad hire because of the record he had at Ole Miss, but honestly, that is probably one of the most challenging schools in college football. I think this is going to turn out to be a good addition for the Saints.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:58 PM   #14
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I have recently returned to B&G after an extended hiatus.
Been Lurking.

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Old 03-21-2008, 08:57 AM   #15
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I'll give you this. Two supposed "all star" USC coaches who left the NCAA for greener NFL pastures. Norm Chow was labeled and offensive "genius" and one of the main reasons for all the SC offensive success. He went to Tennessee and was unceremoniously fired after two average offensive producing seasons. Short of Vince Young improvising some miraculous plays his rookie season, Chow was nothing short of ordinary in the pros. Kiffin at Oakland has so endeared himself to Al Davis and the Raiders, there are rumors that Davis has already asked Kiffin for his resignation. AFTER ONE SEASON! Now, I would think that both Chow and Kiffin had MUCH better reputations and better careers as coaches. Please all of you pro Ogeron guys tell me how being a "good college recruiter" enables you to make the jump to the NFL and coach an NFL defensive line? As far as I'm concerned, you can keep this guy. I will GUARANTEE you he will never last more than 2 seasons with the Saints before he goes back to college. If he thinks the pressure of winning at Ole Miss was too much, wait until he sees what the "what have you done for me lately" NFL has to offer. Hottie Toddie, OGERON LOST TO EVERYBODY!
You're right. Coach O has been sucessful at one thing in his entire life: scouting, signing and coaching defensive lines. I see nothing from his track record that Euph posted that would lead me to belive he can handle coaching a NFL D-line. I mean how many all american DLinemen did he not coach? A bunch.

The Saints made a mistake when they signed him to come in and make all of our draft picks, negotiate contracts, design and call both the offense and defense, oversee stregth training and set ticket prices. As you can tell by his failures in his lone head coaching endeavor at Ole Miss, he is clearly not quailfied to be the Saints defensive line coach.

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Old 03-21-2008, 09:53 AM   #16
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Forum search... Orgeron. The arguments have been made... leave him be. He's not going to change his point of view no matter how much sense is made.

Orgeron sucks... we're doomed.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:01 AM   #17
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check out all the negativity in here..

Orgeron is a GREAT hire. i for one don't see how it can get any worse. the defense is going to be vastly improved. i just hope you all negative talkers come back in here during the season to say you were wrong.

how can you say someone is a bad hire when the season hasn't even started... lets just see what happens.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:14 AM   #18
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I heard a rumor somewhere that Orgeron cures cancer too.

Anyone can make up stories. Whether or not he's a good or bad hire, we'll find out at the end of the year.

And missile, how do you know we didn't do our homework before we hired him? It's not like people go around hiring bums off the street. There is an application/interview process... yea... I guess you forgot about that. Speculation at it's best.

The negativity surrounding this subject is starting to irk the heck out of me. *hint* We'll just agree to disagree... let's move on.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

All little common sense goes a long way.

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Old 03-21-2008, 06:40 PM   #19
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Well the guy must interview as good as he recruits.

Hopefully he'll be better than Venturi.
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Old 03-22-2008, 03:25 AM   #20
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I like to read opinions from all here.

If I agree. It's cool.

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