DL rankings

LordOfEntropy · 03-13-2008, 01:52 PM

NFL Football Player Rankings - CBSSports.com

Depressing list, as New Orleans is hardly mentioned. No surprise there. More of a surprise is Antwan Lake ranked higher than Charles Grant.

WVSaint · 03-13-2008, 02:03 PM

our run D was good last year cuz teams could easily throw for 400+ yards a game on us. those stats are misleading.

LordOfEntropy · 03-13-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Means our DT's aren't that bad.

Well, I believe that can be debated. The DL is also responsible for pass rushing. I admit we did a very good job of stopping the run - but you've got to admit our pass rush was non-existent.

My analysis is our players are covering the 0/1 gap just fine, but 3 gap is suffering. I don't know if that's bad play of the DT, bad play of the DE, both, or just poor scheming. Whatever it is, I'm wondering if we need a 3 technique DT in there shooting the gap. (Dewayne Robertson strikes me as just that kind of guy. <hint hint>)

Regardless, I was surprised to see Charles Grant SOOOOO far down this list, behind Orien Harris and ??Antwan Lake?? Note Bryan Young almost didn't make the list at all, down around 300 - he gets a get out of jail free card from LoE - pneumonia. Charles Grant, on the other hand - something's got to CHANGE. He's getting paid way too well to perform so poorly.

Euphoria · 03-13-2008, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy

Well, I believe that can be debated. The DL is also responsible for pass rushing. I admit we did a very good job of stopping the run - but you've got to admit our pass rush was non-existent.

My analysis is our players are covering the 0/1 gap just fine, but 3 gap is suffering. I don't know if that's bad play of the DT, bad play of the DE, both, or just poor scheming. Whatever it is, I'm wondering if we need a 3 technique DT in there shooting the gap. (Dewayne Robertson strikes me as just that kind of guy. <hint hint>)

Regardless, I was surprised to see Charles Grant SOOOOO far down this list, behind Orien Harris and ??Antwan Lake?? Note Bryan Young almost didn't make the list at all, down around 300 - he gets a get out of jail free card from LoE - pneumonia. Charles Grant, on the other hand - something's got to CHANGE. He's getting paid way too well to perform so poorly.

SPOT ON

foreverfan · 03-13-2008, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy

Charles Grant, on the other hand - something's got to CHANGE. He's getting paid way too well to perform so poorly.

GRANT HAS TO FEED HIS CHILDREN!

Little Chuckie Eating His Lunch!

o1higuy · 03-13-2008, 06:22 PM

This list is crap. Look at some of the other lists. They have Stecker and JJ Arrington ranked ahead of Michael Turner and Reggie Bush.

hagan714 · 03-13-2008, 08:35 PM

Simple with the upgrades to LB the DL will be turned loss.

LordOfEntropy · 03-14-2008, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Simple with the upgrades to LB the DL will be turned loss.

True.... and don't forget McCray is in the rotation at DL as well... It's a hopeful thought. If both of those LB's are on the field, then I think you're right about the DL turning loose.

But let's not forget - both of our upgrades at LB have medical problems. I'll consider us fortunate if even one of them is on the field consistently. But both might be wishful thinking. I think it's more realistic to suspect Vilma might be held out for a bit (pushing down his cost in that conditional trade while healing and strengthing up), and that Morgan is going to get another concussion a couple games into the season.

Theoretically, neither of those guys could be on the field, which is a very discouraging thought.

03-13-2008, 01:52 PM	#1
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	DL rankings NFL Football Player Rankings - CBSSports.com Depressing list, as New Orleans is hardly mentioned. No surprise there. More of a surprise is Antwan Lake ranked higher than Charles Grant.
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03-13-2008, 02:03 PM	#2
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: DL rankings our run D was good last year cuz teams could easily throw for 400+ yards a game on us. those stats are misleading.

03-13-2008, 02:06 PM	#3
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: DL rankings Originally Posted by saintsmissile Means our DT's aren't that bad. Well, I believe that can be debated. The DL is also responsible for pass rushing. I admit we did a very good job of stopping the run - but you've got to admit our pass rush was non-existent. My analysis is our players are covering the 0/1 gap just fine, but 3 gap is suffering. I don't know if that's bad play of the DT, bad play of the DE, both, or just poor scheming. Whatever it is, I'm wondering if we need a 3 technique DT in there shooting the gap. (Dewayne Robertson strikes me as just that kind of guy. <hint hint>) Regardless, I was surprised to see Charles Grant SOOOOO far down this list, behind Orien Harris and ??Antwan Lake?? Note Bryan Young almost didn't make the list at all, down around 300 - he gets a get out of jail free card from LoE - pneumonia. Charles Grant, on the other hand - something's got to CHANGE. He's getting paid way too well to perform so poorly.
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03-13-2008, 02:56 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: DL rankings Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy Well, I believe that can be debated. The DL is also responsible for pass rushing. I admit we did a very good job of stopping the run - but you've got to admit our pass rush was non-existent. My analysis is our players are covering the 0/1 gap just fine, but 3 gap is suffering. I don't know if that's bad play of the DT, bad play of the DE, both, or just poor scheming. Whatever it is, I'm wondering if we need a 3 technique DT in there shooting the gap. (Dewayne Robertson strikes me as just that kind of guy. <hint hint>) Regardless, I was surprised to see Charles Grant SOOOOO far down this list, behind Orien Harris and ??Antwan Lake?? Note Bryan Young almost didn't make the list at all, down around 300 - he gets a get out of jail free card from LoE - pneumonia. Charles Grant, on the other hand - something's got to CHANGE. He's getting paid way too well to perform so poorly. SPOT ON

03-13-2008, 03:53 PM	#5
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: DL rankings Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy Charles Grant, on the other hand - something's got to CHANGE. He's getting paid way too well to perform so poorly. GRANT HAS TO FEED HIS CHILDREN! Little Chuckie Eating His Lunch!

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o1higuy 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 189	Re: DL rankings This list is crap. Look at some of the other lists. They have Stecker and JJ Arrington ranked ahead of Michael Turner and Reggie Bush.
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03-13-2008, 08:35 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: DL rankings Simple with the upgrades to LB the DL will be turned loss.

03-14-2008, 08:40 AM	#8
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: DL rankings Originally Posted by hagan714 Simple with the upgrades to LB the DL will be turned loss. True.... and don't forget McCray is in the rotation at DL as well... It's a hopeful thought. If both of those LB's are on the field, then I think you're right about the DL turning loose. But let's not forget - both of our upgrades at LB have medical problems. I'll consider us fortunate if even one of them is on the field consistently. But both might be wishful thinking. I think it's more realistic to suspect Vilma might be held out for a bit (pushing down his cost in that conditional trade while healing and strengthing up), and that Morgan is going to get another concussion a couple games into the season. Theoretically, neither of those guys could be on the field, which is a very discouraging thought.
	can anyone help me id this tune? it goes thwap thwap boom tch boom tch boom tch. Qui a laissez sortir les chiens!