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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; PACMAN PAID OFF STRIP CLUB SHOOTER Posted by Mike Florio on April 21, 2008, 10:59 p.m. The Associated Press reports that Titans cornerback Pacman Jones paid off the man who was arrested last week for pulling the tigger at the ...

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Old 04-21-2008, 11:42 PM   #1
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unfreaking believable, who wanted this guy?

PACMAN PAID OFF STRIP CLUB SHOOTER
Posted by Mike Florio on April 21, 2008, 10:59 p.m.
The Associated Press reports that Titans cornerback Pacman Jones paid off the man who was arrested last week for pulling the tigger at the Las Vegas strip club where Tommy Urbanski was shot and paralyzed in 2007.

“He paid $15,000 to his friends, who advised him that if he didn’t pay the money then this guy would come after him,” said Jones’ lawyer, Robert Langford.

Also, Jones went to Seattle on Friday and picked Arvin Kenti Edwards out of a lineup. (It’s unknown whether Kramer was one of the extras. Or a Twix bar.)

We’re aware of no crime in paying money to someone under an illegal threat of extortion. Still, the notion that Jones was scraping together cash to keep the shooter from implicating Jones (or worse) is unsavory, and could prompt Commissioner Roger Goodell to decide not to reinstate Jones.

Pacman’s recent pleas of no contest to misdemeanor charges in Las Vegas and felony charges in Georgia could give Goodell all the ammo he needs to suspend Jones for another year, if Goodell so chooses. More importantly, it’s possible that Jones previously failed to tell Goodell about the cash paid to the shooter — and/or that Jones denied to Goodell knowing who the shooter was.

If Goodell can prove that Pacman lied to the Commish about such an important issue, Goodell might have found the key to never letting Pacman back into the league.

And since all discipline imposed under the Personal Conduct Policy is appealable to the Commissioner only, it’s not as if Jones would have any meaningful recourse.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:57 AM   #2
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Pacman is a total loser. This dude is going to get a lifetime ban from the NFL. For Pacman it's pretty damn simple, stay out of the strip bars and play football. Obviously he doesn't get it. It doesn't surprise me that someone would attempt to extort him, he is an easy target these days.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:03 AM   #3
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what a waste of talent
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:47 AM   #4
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keeping it real
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:56 AM   #5
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I see a future episode of HBO Real Sports: "PACMAN...Where is he now?"
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:58 AM   #6
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C'mon you guys, don't you think you Saints' fans are being WAY TOO PICKY ?



lol, that was a good thread-
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:10 AM   #7
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LOL...I stayed away from that one
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:28 AM   #8
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Mark my words...... Jones will end up dead in the streets before the year is out. He wants to like the "G/Player" life and I think it is going to catch up with him. At the next Rookie symposium, they really need to focus in on Vick, Jones, and the Bungles players; and say..."DON'T DO THIS!!!!"
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:39 AM   #9
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smitty nice seinfeld reference. it isn't so much that he continues to have trouble or that he likes the breast bars, it is the fact that as a human he is just a really bad person. i would like to see him not reinstated. i do not think he has done anything to change.
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:02 AM   #10
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this is what screamed out at me when i read the first article..........

MINXX SHOOTER THOUGHT PACMAN ORDERED A HIT
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2008, 9:27 p.m.
A reader has forwarded to us a copy of the “declaration of warrant/summons” issued on April 18 in connection with the arrest of Arvin Kenti Edwards, the man accused of opening fire outside of a Las Vegas strip club in February 2007.

The document helps to clarify recent reports regarding the nature of the $15,000 payment that Edwards thereafter pursued from Titans cornerback Pacman Jones. It seemed to be hush money, but it was characterized by Jones as money that was paid only because Edwards threatened to come after Jones and/or his family.

As it turns out, Edwards initially wanted the money because he believed that Jones had ordered a hit.

Jones made the disclosure to Las Vegas police in September 2007, roughly seven months after the shooting. He told authorities that, as he was leaving the Minxx club after the infamous “make it rain” altercation, a man approached Jones and told him that he would take care of the problem. Jones says he wasn’t sure what the man was talking about, and that Jones replied by saying, “whatever.” Moments later, Jones heard the popping of a gun and observed the same man shooting Tommy Urbanski and two others.

So, basically, the guy shot Urbanski and the other two people because he thought Jones had asked him to do it. And, surely, Edwards’ version of the events will be different than Pacman’s “whatever” remark.

Meanwhile, the report also states that a member of Pacman’s entourage previously had said that he would “f–k this motherf–ker” and that “[w]e’ll smoke his ass” in reference to one of the other persons who was shot.

Here’s our question. What did Pacman Jones say to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in April 2007 or at any other time thereafter when asked about the Las Vegas incident? Our guess is that Jones used the “I don’t know nothing” defense, which would be directly at odds with what Jones thereafter told police in Las Vegas, possibly at the urging of lawyers who feared that the authorities eventually would find the shooter, and that the shooter would claim that Pacman ordered the hit before Pacman could offer up a carefully spun version of the events.

Needless to say, the Cowboys might merely be loaning that fourth-round pick that was sent to the Titans earlier today for Jones. Because we now suspect that, one way or another, Commissioner Roger Goodell will find a way to keep Jones out of the league in 2008.

Bottom line? Jones paid a guy $15,000 for a hit, not because he ordered the hit but only because he feared that if he didn’t pay the money the guy would come after him. And, amazingly, Jones opted not to alert the authorities to the threats from the man who was admitting to these crimes.

Pacman, we suggest that you hold off on trying on that silver helmet with the star.
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