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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; What a silly *******question. I'm glad you're not a part of the FO. You're correct, everybody likes Duece. I simply don't want to see him hurt again, knowing him, he would go through rehab again to come back. We're talking ...

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Old 05-12-2008, 10:04 AM   #21
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What a silly *******question. I'm glad you're not a part of the FO. You're correct, everybody likes Duece. I simply don't want to see him hurt again, knowing him, he would go through rehab again to come back. We're talking about knees dude. Arthritis is definitely going to set in, we just don't know how bad. I know though.

PT is just a stronger and hungrier Duece. We needed PT last year but was too late for whatever reason. It would be extremely unwise to trade him.

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Old 05-12-2008, 02:42 PM   #22
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What a silly *******question. I'm glad you're not a part of the FO. You're correct, everybody likes Duece. I simply don't want to see him hurt again, knowing him, he would go through rehab again to come back. We're talking about knees dude. Arthritis is definitely going to set in, we just don't know how bad. I know though.

PT is just a stronger and hungrier Duece. We needed PT last year but was too late for whatever reason. It would be extremely unwise to trade him.
alright first of all....i coach high school football and i am a college scout so i know what im talking about when it comes to talent....just fyi.....nobody wants him to get hurt...agreed by everybody on the forum....duece is our starter....also agreed....PT is not stronger than healthy duece....hungrier..maybe because he doesnt have the history that duece has....PT did great for us last year...i dont see him being our back for the future mainly because he went undrafted...and i dont see him taking steckers spot this year....i like the point about stecker signing a 1 yr deal tho...i almost cried when i heard that...arguing about stecker is hard for me cuz i'll end up saying something dumb and off the wall...but PT isnt duece...i think he has the potential to do what stecker does...but i dont see him being our back of the future....i cant remember who said it but with the increase in popularity of the 2 back system, RBs value did go down....but its because RBs are being used for their strengths....one RB is a power guy and one is elusive speedy guy....or if u go with one that does it all great like LT or dare i say McFadden?...PT is a jack of all traits like stecker....but he doesnt do ne 1 thing better than nebody on our team....I think that he has talent and could play on ne team in ST or maybe in a multi-back set....if he has the talent to do that....y wouldnt he be marketable?....he is young....he is capable...but he wont start on our team unless Duece mac and reggie and big aaron are hurt

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Old 05-12-2008, 02:47 PM   #23
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Why don't you think multiple backs can be rotated even when they are all healthy. There were times in 2006 when Stecker came on the field even when Deuce and Reggie were fine.

So why not use PT23 to suck up some of those carries for Deuce so that he'll be available and fresh for the times when we really need him?

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i like ur point....i think that all the backs will get playing time because they all showed they had what it took to step up when the time came....i am very proud of our backs and really its the only position other than QB and G that we dont need more depth at.....i like when we put duece and stecker back there and have reggie in the slot....its obvious that stecker and PT have similar traits and it is very possible we are looking to move stecker even but i think that PT has a higher value in the market....i would like to keep him too....but if he has a higher price than we anticipate...what are the chances that we could bring in someone else we need?

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In Canton's defense, I don't think he was actually suggesting a PT trade, just posing a hypothetical question.

Trading PT at this time would be a big mistake. PT shows upside potential and going into his 2nd year will help further his development. He will get more attempts this year and will provide a better idea on what he can do. This will work in his favor and give him the edge over any new comers.

Stecker and PT will split carries while Deuce recovers. I see Steady Stecker being penciled in as the starter splitting time with PT, with PT potentially taking over the #1 spot until Deuce is ready.

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Deuce is our #1 until he says he is not. He deserves that, and has proven it by coming back again and again for us. I know, the NFL is just a business, but the Deuce scenario is different. I really want to see him get 1k, 10TD this year so he can recover yet still produce so the naysayers have something to ponder.

PT, admittedly, is our future. Future looks bright. Him and Reggie gonna platoon for years on end once we get our o-line right & tight. One thing I hope is we keep Deuce with the team forever, be it front office, or my favorite scenario, as a coach of some sort, so he'll always be on the sidelines!!

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alright first of all....i coach high school football and i am a college scout so i know what im talking about when it comes to talent....just fyi.....nobody wants him to get hurt...agreed by everybody on the forum....duece is our starter....also agreed....PT is not stronger than healthy duece....hungrier..maybe because he doesnt have the history that duece has....PT did great for us last year...i dont see him being our back for the future mainly because he went undrafted...and i dont see him taking steckers spot this year....i like the point about stecker signing a 1 yr deal tho...i almost cried when i heard that...arguing about stecker is hard for me cuz i'll end up saying something dumb and off the wall...but PT isnt duece...i think he has the potential to do what stecker does...but i dont see him being our back of the future....i cant remember who said it but with the increase in popularity of the 2 back system, RBs value did go down....but its because RBs are being used for their strengths....one RB is a power guy and one is elusive speedy guy....or if u go with one that does it all great like LT or dare i say McFadden?...PT is a jack of all traits like stecker....but he doesnt do ne 1 thing better than nebody on our team....I think that he has talent and could play on ne team in ST or maybe in a multi-back set....if he has the talent to do that....y wouldnt he be marketable?....he is young....he is capable...but he wont start on our team unless Duece mac and reggie and big aaron are hurt
Coach, I believe you if you say so regarding your ability to recognize talent. However saying "you can't see him (PT)as our back for the future is mainly because he went undrafted," is not a nice thing to say.

What about people like: Willie Parker, Antonio Gates, Priest Holmes, Rod Smith, Brian Finneran, London Fletcher, Ogunleye, Jake Del and Kevin Kaes. I could name more but they all went undrafted. Why PT was not placed of the field earlier, I do not know but I know he has it. They just recognized it too late.

I do not what to see Duece looking like Earl Campbell. No way, he's given waaay too much in my opinion.
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the thought of duece returning to full health makes me tingle...nice post touchdown......also thanks biggiex for pointing out that i dont advocate a trade...i just thought it was possible...it was something that was outside the box...every team always looks for players that are solid but couldnt necessarily make their team better....if we find a player like that we could move him just like other teams do...catch my drift?...if PT had some marketability then i can foresee a trade goin down...the dude can play...as everyone has made it clear....he clearly has some value or we wouldnt be talking about him as our back of the future....the saints have a history now of drafting their starting running backs in the first round tho....i dont think we need to try an undrafted guy at starter when we could just draft one...granted if PT steps up...y wouldnt we start him...im all for it.....we drafted r. williams and he started..he was a beast....we drafted duece....he started....he was a beast....i see us drafting a running back to start for us if duece cant make it...thats y i brought up the PT trade

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Old 05-14-2008, 06:37 AM   #29
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I agree with a lot of your points canton but a couple of things I need to point out.
1) Duce had work done to both knees. He came back 100% from the first, never regained the top speed from the second. Now we are talking a third here and he will be fragile. Every times he gets the ball we all will hold our breathes. The third blow out was not so much a fluke injury as injury to a rebuilt knee. Face facts Duce is gambling big time on the field for us. Pray he makes the year. I know the FO is.

2) We did not draft a RB so the staff must see something in our RB stable. As for Stecker, he is over 30 and has a one year deal and you feel PT is not good enough to become a third down back?

With Duce's all question marks, Steckers' age and really no other RB to talk about behind them but PT, Stecker and Bush, why in the world would you trade the guy? It still makes no sense to me unless you get offered a second rounder or something stupid like that. Third down backs do not grow on trees. It is not that easy to find them. Stecker is the perfect player coach for PT to learn from. Smart, Tough and a team guy. I just the this pairing of teach/ student thing seems too good mess up. I like this marriage.

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i like that point and i like the idea of a player coach....mcafee did it and now look....hes in our FO....ne way....i think that duece has this year and then his days our numbered....unless we find another gaping hole in our defense i think we will draft a RB this year....i hope its not chris wells....i think the position is too important to hand it over to PT....after 32 teams pass on u for 7 rounds.....thats not a good sign....and the only reason he got to play last year was because #1 and #2 were hurt....i dont think PT challenges for the starting job...at least this year....and i think if duece cant get healthy we will go to the draft looking for a number 1 guy.....dangit now that i made this dumb bold statement i gotta go look at RBs in college....maybe i'll just wait til next year that way i dont hafta do it now

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