3-4...wtf?

Budsdrinker · 09-28-2009, 09:40 AM

It's the changing back and forth is what is working 34/43. Confuse the offense every chance you get. I think Gregg Williams is going to have a field day against Sanchez this week. Really make him lok like a rookie trying to read the different schemes.

CantonLegend · 09-28-2009, 10:27 AM

im not a fan of the 3-4 but it is supposed to be a superior pass defense to the 4-3s superior run defense

i guess gregg figured that we could stop the run with the our down men and our extra LB could help in pass coverage

ive noticed the 3-4 in the past 2 games also but nobody else seemed to notice.....this one was just so blatent because we played it the majority of the game

WhoDat205 · 09-28-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Was it a true 3-4 or was it simply a nickel using a LB instead of a corner or safety? Was there man coverage when that "scheme" was in use or was it a zone? Where was it used relative to Bills' field position?

Pardon the questions, but the limited time I got to see the choppy feed prevented any satisfaction for the weekend. Sadness is permeating my home...

It was a real 3-4. They brought Mitchell in as the other MLB and used Shanle, Fuji and McCray as the OLBs.

And on the Vilma doesn't like the 3-4, I'm betting Vilma doesn't give a poop what we run as long as we get the W. He played a pretty darn good game. 5 tackles, 4 solo, 2 QB hits.

DeadmaN · 09-28-2009, 11:18 AM

I was surprised that we didn't fall into the prevent D at the end of the game

I rather liked seeing that

WVSaint · 09-28-2009, 11:51 AM

yeah, vilma may not like it but that doesnt mean it cant plan it. he had a good game. im sure the Ws are all vilma care about.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-28-2009, 05:22 PM

I think Vilma didn't like the 3-4 he was in when he played with the Jets because it wasn't well coached nor well called during games, which wasted Vilma's natural talents and made him disappear from games...

...but this 3-4 Williams is fielding doesn't mean the Saints defense is a 3-4 defense an that's all they do, rather it is a package among many different packages GW is implementing slowly with every game, and this package is called when GW thinks it is appropriate for what he sees the offense is doing.

We are looking at defensive schemes we have never seen in a Saints defense: a lot of movement, lots of rotations, lots of different looks.

darstep · 09-29-2009, 02:40 PM

Payton has put the defense in what seems to be GOOD HANDS. Greg Williams has, til now, shown that he has the where-with-all to position people to make plays, and that's what we needed. Each week they look a little better in different areas. My hope is that it all comes together as the season progresses and they are playing their best down the stretch and into the post season. Each week brings new challenges that may call for altered schemes and personnel. I hope they keep getting it done...on both sides of the ball.

09-28-2009, 09:40 AM	#11
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: 3-4...wtf? It's the changing back and forth is what is working 34/43. Confuse the offense every chance you get. I think Gregg Williams is going to have a field day against Sanchez this week. Really make him lok like a rookie trying to read the different schemes.

09-28-2009, 10:27 AM	#12
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 3-4...wtf? im not a fan of the 3-4 but it is supposed to be a superior pass defense to the 4-3s superior run defense i guess gregg figured that we could stop the run with the our down men and our extra LB could help in pass coverage ive noticed the 3-4 in the past 2 games also but nobody else seemed to notice.....this one was just so blatent because we played it the majority of the game

09-28-2009, 10:28 AM	#13
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 3-4...wtf? Originally Posted by xan Was it a true 3-4 or was it simply a nickel using a LB instead of a corner or safety? Was there man coverage when that "scheme" was in use or was it a zone? Where was it used relative to Bills' field position? Pardon the questions, but the limited time I got to see the choppy feed prevented any satisfaction for the weekend. Sadness is permeating my home... It was a real 3-4. They brought Mitchell in as the other MLB and used Shanle, Fuji and McCray as the OLBs. And on the Vilma doesn't like the 3-4, I'm betting Vilma doesn't give a poop what we run as long as we get the W. He played a pretty darn good game. 5 tackles, 4 solo, 2 QB hits.

09-28-2009, 11:18 AM	#14
DeadmaN Saints Junky Join Date: May 2007 Location: Metairie Originally now a Houston transplant Posts: 672	Re: 3-4...wtf? I was surprised that we didn't fall into the prevent D at the end of the game I rather liked seeing that

09-28-2009, 11:51 AM	#15
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: 3-4...wtf? yeah, vilma may not like it but that doesnt mean it cant plan it. he had a good game. im sure the Ws are all vilma care about.

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09-29-2009, 02:40 PM	#17
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: 3-4...wtf? Payton has put the defense in what seems to be GOOD HANDS. Greg Williams has, til now, shown that he has the where-with-all to position people to make plays, and that's what we needed. Each week they look a little better in different areas. My hope is that it all comes together as the season progresses and they are playing their best down the stretch and into the post season. Each week brings new challenges that may call for altered schemes and personnel. I hope they keep getting it done...on both sides of the ball.