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Decoy or no decoy Bush needs to get his $hit together or get the hell outta Nawlins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DblBogey, PM your email address. the one we have on file is bad and bounced back.

Thanks for the email during the GAME brother!

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Reggie Bust better get his $h*) together if he wants his NFL career to continue much longer at his Salary! Over paid fumbling 3rd down back/punt returner.

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i've officially given up on him. theres no way he remains on this team without taking a pay cut.

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My criticism of him is he's just too lite. He's only like 180 lbs... what's his exact weight? Most people on this forum are taller and heavier than him and that's not NFL caliber.

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I'm not quite ready to give up on him just yet, how many teams would go after him if he was cut?

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Maybe the real question is "for how much, and for how long would you re-sign Reggie Bush?

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I haven't given up on him. It was a fumble where he should have been holding on tighter - but at least he didn't run backwards and reverse field on a punt return today.

Payton should maybe put him in the backfield with PT or Bell more, then throw him those swing passes with the receivers blocking, those plays are money with his speed. Doesn't seem like we've been calling many of those lately.

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I think you would be surprised on who would sign him and for how large his contract would be...
I just want to see how he does the rest of the year, he's a big part of the play book for some reason.. (HINT)

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I don't doubt that. I'm asking how long/much he should come back to NO for?

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Why give him the ball if he is going to fumble it!!! He wasn't holding the ball correctly for where he was running. He should have rapped it up with both arms going through the line. So called RB and a pro should know better than that. And its not this one fumble... its been this way all freakin season. He has more fumbles than TD's already.

Sure a lot of teams would have him... then let them. Give us a good draft pick and we can call it a day.

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sure reggie can do things with the ball...but pierre is just as efficient and he doesnt fumble. payton took reggie out after that fumble and pierre gutted the jets D on the next drive. After this year his salary takes a huge jump and that money can be used elsewhere. id rather us use the money to keep evans and brown on the o-line.

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Hate to admit it, but you're right

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Let him play WR.

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Everybody fumbles. Yall are jumpin the gun way to quick

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Well Pierre did fumble, the only difference was that his was recovered. Look at Bush's rushing stats. He had a 6.1 ypc average against one of the best defences in the leauge and made smart cuts to the outside. He is getting stuffed when there is nowhere to run, otherwise he's looking better this year.

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All of this will go away if you quit calling him a running back. Let him line up as a slot receiver.

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Bush would make a terrible WR.

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In my original post I did not say give up on him . . . I said he needs to get his $hit together or get the hell outta Nawlins! After this game I think with Payton telling Reggie "Are you watching this?" he will address it with Reggie this week if he hasn't already.

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I agree, but Reggie doesn't look as fast as he used to. He's still a bit faster than Pierre and Bell, but has definitely lost a step.

I think Pierre is actually more dangerous on screens and flat passes than Reggie, because of his hands, vision, and ability to break tackles. I bet Bell would also be dangerous in space, but I don't know how reliable his hands are in the passing game.

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3 fumbles in 4 games is attrocious

he only had 3 fumbles all last season

i love reggies play making ability but recently it just makes me nervous to see him touch the ball

reggie fumbles every 12 carries....thats a terrible ratio when players like LT are fumbling every 1000 or so carries....i know hes not LT but the fumble to carry ratio is what is going to cost him his job

on punt returns he calls for fair catches and then lets them bounce even further into our territory......when you fair catch a punt, you dont get hit but he still moves away from it

i would say move him to WR but im afraid we'll target him too much and he'll fumble there too

for now he needs to take his touches sparingly until he learns how to carry the ball

on another note, his first carry after the fumble he didnt try to juke or spin or cut.....he carried the ball with both arms and went straight forward....im all for that until he gets into open space, then do what you do reggie

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Opposing teams are driving 6 when Bush lines up in the backfield. Because of this, he's either forced to run E-W, which is death, or in passing situations, he's forced to stay and block rather than be an option out of the backfield. He's shown to be pretty decent at pass protection, but that's not a very good reason to pay this guy close to top 5 rb money.

Bush earns $2.6 million this season and is supposed to earn $8.0 million in 2010.

$8.0 MILLION.

I'm not a detractor, but I am a value based asset investor. What's ya'll read on this for next season?

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Sean will not let Bush leave, he loves the speed. Bush will take a pay cut, I think in general he’s been pressurized into a position he’s clearly not built for, so with that said he will get it together. He had some decent runs and after the fumble he held the ball with two hands. The coach is using him correctly because you can’t deny the home run factor. He reminds me of Eric Metcalfe not a true running back but some one who can break a game open at anytime. So his pay will reflect that during contract talks. I also think T. Holiday of LSU will have that same issue. and your points are on point Neugey he have to have the money plays for his speed

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Not a cap expert, but I do know we have 4 or 5 key players to sign. This includes Pierre, Lance, and (gulp!) Sharper. I expect for Sharper to get an extension any day.

So it's looking bad for Reggie unless he turns it around quickly.

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Besides the fumble I thought that Bush has a pretty good game. There were a few runs/catches that he made where he got past the corner and if it was Pierre it probably wouldn't have happened.

Pierre did fumble which has been mentioned and Mike Bell had a very costly fumble against Detroit. It happens.

Bush isn't Barry Sanders but he gets more yards than he gets credit for gaining. I think he stays around for awhile.

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It's a long season... I haven't given up on him but he needs to do better.

I don't see how the Saints can justify his salary next year.

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no excuse for the fumble, but i think we would see a bigger inpact from him if we were playing from behind. playing with a lead is pierre territory.

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Beyond a doubt Reggie will not see that money from T. Benson next year. He still has a shot of retaining his pride though and I hope he comes through and contributes. He is approaching the underachiever bust title and he is responsible for the doubt he has placed on us the fans and the coach.

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Now that I have been overcome with a calmer mindset I think I know why it is very difficult seeing Reggie faltering. It all boils down to expectations. Our expectations of what RB are is dramatically different than that of PT23 or Bell. The fact is we/I bought into the hype that came with RB and I just have not seen it nor has he lived up to my expectations. I either have to lower my expectations or RB has to raise his bar. Not sure but one of them has to happen.

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agreed. he started off the game w/ 3 carries for 39 yards. he was running the ball well, he's just gotta work on ball security. he'll get it together as the year goes on. i'm not worried about him.

anybody notice his next carry after the fumble? it was a nice, tough, 4 or 5 yard carry, but, he was holding onto the ball for dear life!

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well that is what he should have been doing in the first place

he thinks dancing is the name of the game and in the open field that may be so

but coming through that line of scrimmage
you must cover up that ball