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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Kicker Garrett Hartley is allowed to rejoin the Saints today, now that his four-game suspension has been served. But the team doesn't have to make an official roster move until next Monday, according to General Manager Mickey Loomis. Saints Coach ...

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:10 AM   #1
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Kicker Garrett Hartley is allowed to rejoin the Saints today, now that his four-game suspension has been served. But the team doesn't have to make an official roster move until next Monday, according to General Manager Mickey Loomis.

Saints Coach Sean Payton declined to announce the team's plans for Hartley. But reading between the lines, it sounds like the team might be leaning toward keeping both him and veteran kicker John Carney on the 53-man roster.
As Payton went through the team's "hypothetical" scenarios, he said they could keep both kickers on the 53-man roster, but leave one kicker inactive on game days.

With Carney kicking accurately and punter Thomas Morstead doing such a good job on kickoffs, there's no immediate need for Hartley's strong leg. But the Saints might want to hang on to Hartley for later this season, if needed, or for future years since they feel is an impressive young talent.

UPDATE: Kicker John Carney expects to keep his job with New Orleans Saints ... for now

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Old 10-06-2009, 09:17 AM   #2
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Re: Saints have until next week to decide on kicker Garrett Hartley's status

I don't know... there will be a time when the Saints are going to need to kick a 45+ yard FG... what then?
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Re: Saints have until next week to decide on kicker Garrett Hartley's status

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
I don't know... there will be a time when the Saints are going to need to kick a 45+ yard FG... what then?
Honestly, I like the old man's chances on an important kick.
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Re: Saints have until next week to decide on kicker Garrett Hartley's status

carney is accurate......but he is somewhat inconsistant and even tho he has kicked a lot of crucial field goals.......those ones that he misses stick out like a sore thumb and i have lost a lot of faith in him

hartley is the new school kicker and im all on board with him.....he missed 2 field goals in preseason but preseason doesnt mean anything and he is perfect as a saint in the regular season
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Re: Saints have until next week to decide on kicker Garrett Hartley's status

40 yarder to win or lose a game?

I'll take Carney over Hartley all day long.

I think its more likely we'll need crucial 40 yarders more frequently than 50 yarders.
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:45 AM   #6
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Tough choice. I would take Hartley though. I can't imagine how it would help the Saints to keep both and not only have one active on gameday. What is the point of that?
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:27 PM   #7
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Re: Saints have until next week to decide on kicker Garrett Hartley's status

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40 yarder to win or lose a game?

I'll take Carney over Hartley all day long.

I think its more likely we'll need crucial 40 yarders more frequently than 50 yarders.
good call
you hit the nail on the head
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Re: Saints have until next week to decide on kicker Garrett Hartley's status

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Honestly, I like the old man's chances on an important kick.
are you kidding me!? am i the only one who remembers the river-city relay in jacksonville on december 21, 2003!? god, i will never forgive carney for that crap!

i was at the game w/ my girlfriend and parents. i got lucky and had some awesome tickets through my dad's boss at work. he hooked it up because he knew what a huge saints fan i was. i had these a-hole jags fans talking smack to me the entire game. they felt they had the last laugh when they were up 20-13 w/ 7 seconds left. then we lateraled a million times to miracuoulsy score to make it 20-19! all we needed was an extra point to tie it! i was telling those guys to kiss my black and gold ass! that was it! we were gonna tie, take it to overtime, and make it to the playoffs!

....but, no! that ugly-ass, carnival-ride operating, moron missed the extra point! grrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Originally Posted by boonedocksaint View Post
are you kidding me!? am i the only one who remembers the river-city relay in jacksonville on december 21, 2003!? god, i will never forgive carney for that crap!

i was at the game w/ my girlfriend and parents. i got lucky and had some awesome tickets through my dad's boss at work. he hooked it up because he knew what a huge saints fan i was. i had these a-hole jags fans talking smack to me the entire game. they felt they had the last laugh when they were up 20-13 w/ 7 seconds left. then we lateraled a million times to miracuoulsy score to make it 20-19! all we needed was an extra point to tie it! i was telling those guys to kiss my black and gold ass! that was it! we were gonna tie, take it to overtime, and make it to the playoffs!

....but, no! that ugly-ass, carnival-ride operating, moron missed the extra point! grrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Kicker John Carney expects to keep his job with New Orleans Saints ... for now

Saints kicker John Carney said the team has indicated to him that he'll still have a locker to come back to Monday when the team returns from its bye week. He doesn't know what the plan is for kicker Garrett Hartley, though, now that Hartley is back from his four-game suspension.

"All I can do is work hard and show up," Carney said. "Just take it one week at a time and be excited to have th eopportunity and see where it takes us."

The Saints have until next Monday to make a roster move involving Hartley. They have not indicated their plans yet, but Coach Sean Payton made it sound this week like the team will strongly consider keeping both kickers on the roster -- even if it means de-activating one of them on game days.
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