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boonedocksaint 11-16-2009 08:40 AM

so, let me get this straight...
 
...we're now w/o fujita, ellis, greer, porter, and sharper. is that right?

this sucks...

poydras 11-16-2009 08:43 AM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
Not to mention Clancy.

boonedocksaint 11-16-2009 08:46 AM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
honestly, i think hargrove is doing a good job for clancy, but, sedrick is irreplacible. our run defense hasn't been the same since he went out.

CantonLegend 11-16-2009 08:51 AM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
fujita played......sharpers injury isnt serious.....greer should be back next week......ellis will be back by the pats game....porter looks to be done for the season

the only one we need to worrry about is tracy porter because the other guys have minor injuries and should all be back within the next few weeks

boonedocksaint 11-16-2009 08:57 AM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 176735)
fujita played......sharpers injury isnt serious.....greer should be back next week......ellis will be back by the pats game....porter looks to be done for the season

the only one we need to worrry about is tracy porter because the other guys have minor injuries and should all be back within the next few weeks

well, thats good to know. that makes me feel a little better, though, it sucks about tracy.

man...i felt like i was watching a preseason game w/ all those guys out there!

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-16-2009 09:59 AM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint (Post 176730)
...we're now w/o fujita, ellis, greer, porter, and sharper. is that right?

this sucks...

Fujita is back.

Ellis' spraind MCL was supposed to be 4-6 weeks. He's been out for 4 weeks now. He should be coming back online soon.

Greer has a groin pull. Likely if yesterday was a playoff game he could have played, so not too serious. He'll be back.

Porter. Man I just feel sorry for the dude. He just cannot catch a break.

Sharper was in the same boat as Greer. He could have played if he absolutely had to.

So at the end of the day, we've lost one starting CB. The rest just need to heal.

The injuries absolutely suck. However it gives us the opportunity to draw on the bank of the 9-0 start that we have. The Saints would have to have a total collapse at this point to lose the division. The Saints are so far out ahead that they actually have a magic number for clinching the division: 3 games. And it's becoming increasingly clear that the NFC playoffs is going to be played in Domed stadiums. There will be no butt freezing in New York or Philly this playoff season.

So as poorly as the Saints have looked the last 4 games, and as injured as the defense has been, at the end of the day, the three most critical games the Sants have left are the three playoff games they will play in January and hopefully February.

So guess what? Let Sharper and Greer sit another week. Sign Parsons off the practice squad or pick up a free agent CB if you need to. Give Jenkins a full week of practice at the #2 slot and hope that Gay can hold on another week. Give Young more experience and let Sharper coach him this week on making better calls and being in better position.

Rest Ellis another week too. While the run defense has been challenged, frankly it's been against 3 of the best backs in the game recently.

The Saints only need to do one thing right now: clean up the turnovers. A turnover free game next week would practically guarantee a win despite a banged up defense.

The Saints have three objectives they have to fulfill the rest of the regular season: Win the division, secure a playoff bye, and get healthy for the playoffs. Even if that cost the team two or three games, being healthy for the playoffs is more important than any supposed winning streak. With the Falclowns having to travel to play the now rested, and pissed off Giants who have been rejuvenated by the Cowgirls wetting their pants in Lambeau, we could have the division locked up by December 1st.

Get to the playoffs as healthy as possible. That's the goal.

SFIAH

Sir Psycho Sexy 11-16-2009 10:15 AM

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Time for MJ to step up. he looked solid yesterday but he's going to have to keep stepping it up. Gay and Torrence aren't the answer for starting CB.

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-16-2009 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Psycho Sexy (Post 176756)
Time for MJ to step up. he looked solid yesterday but he's going to have to keep stepping it up. Gay and Torrence aren't the answer for starting CB.

I agree. You do this by letting the kid start and play a full game next week. I'd start the same crew I finished with yesterday. If possible I'd activate Greer and Sharper, but I wouldn't play them.

SFIAH

RaginCajun83 11-16-2009 10:30 AM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
but then you're burning 2 game day roster spots for guys that won't see the field, if you're going to rest them why not just keep them deactivated

lumm0x 11-16-2009 10:58 AM

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True. I'd rather have two healthy bodies for special teams play than 2 guys that likely won't see the field at all. We have to just hope we can pull of the same result in Tampa next week and have our healthy people overcome them in adversity. Pray for no more injuries and let the wounded heal for the last stretch of the season.

Rugby Saint II 11-17-2009 02:58 PM

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SFIAH, great stuff. Most of our injuries have been short term this year and those bodies are starting to get back on the field again. It is a shame about Porter but the reports coming in suggest a 6 week period and then he could be back.

saintsfan1976 11-17-2009 03:01 PM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 176753)
Fujita is back.

Ellis' spraind MCL was supposed to be 4-6 weeks. He's been out for 4 weeks now. He should be coming back online soon.

Greer has a groin pull. Likely if yesterday was a playoff game he could have played, so not too serious. He'll be back.

Porter. Man I just feel sorry for the dude. He just cannot catch a break.

Sharper was in the same boat as Greer. He could have played if he absolutely had to.

So at the end of the day, we've lost one starting CB. The rest just need to heal.

The injuries absolutely suck. However it gives us the opportunity to draw on the bank of the 9-0 start that we have. The Saints would have to have a total collapse at this point to lose the division. The Saints are so far out ahead that they actually have a magic number for clinching the division: 3 games. And it's becoming increasingly clear that the NFC playoffs is going to be played in Domed stadiums. There will be no butt freezing in New York or Philly this playoff season.

So as poorly as the Saints have looked the last 4 games, and as injured as the defense has been, at the end of the day, the three most critical games the Sants have left are the three playoff games they will play in January and hopefully February.

So guess what? Let Sharper and Greer sit another week. Sign Parsons off the practice squad or pick up a free agent CB if you need to. Give Jenkins a full week of practice at the #2 slot and hope that Gay can hold on another week. Give Young more experience and let Sharper coach him this week on making better calls and being in better position.

Rest Ellis another week too. While the run defense has been challenged, frankly it's been against 3 of the best backs in the game recently.

The Saints only need to do one thing right now: clean up the turnovers. A turnover free game next week would practically guarantee a win despite a banged up defense.

The Saints have three objectives they have to fulfill the rest of the regular season: Win the division, secure a playoff bye, and get healthy for the playoffs. Even if that cost the team two or three games, being healthy for the playoffs is more important than any supposed winning streak. With the Falclowns having to travel to play the now rested, and pissed off Giants who have been rejuvenated by the Cowgirls wetting their pants in Lambeau, we could have the division locked up by December 1st.

Get to the playoffs as healthy as possible. That's the goal.

SFIAH


The "Perspective Post of the Day".

Well said SFIAH

gumbeau 11-17-2009 03:17 PM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 176753)
Fujita is back.

Ellis' spraind MCL was supposed to be 4-6 weeks. He's been out for 4 weeks now. He should be coming back online soon.

Greer has a groin pull. Likely if yesterday was a playoff game he could have played, so not too serious. He'll be back.

Porter. Man I just feel sorry for the dude. He just cannot catch a break.

Sharper was in the same boat as Greer. He could have played if he absolutely had to.

So at the end of the day, we've lost one starting CB. The rest just need to heal.

The injuries absolutely suck. However it gives us the opportunity to draw on the bank of the 9-0 start that we have. The Saints would have to have a total collapse at this point to lose the division. The Saints are so far out ahead that they actually have a magic number for clinching the division: 3 games. And it's becoming increasingly clear that the NFC playoffs is going to be played in Domed stadiums. There will be no butt freezing in New York or Philly this playoff season.

So as poorly as the Saints have looked the last 4 games, and as injured as the defense has been, at the end of the day, the three most critical games the Sants have left are the three playoff games they will play in January and hopefully February.

So guess what? Let Sharper and Greer sit another week. Sign Parsons off the practice squad or pick up a free agent CB if you need to. Give Jenkins a full week of practice at the #2 slot and hope that Gay can hold on another week. Give Young more experience and let Sharper coach him this week on making better calls and being in better position.

Rest Ellis another week too. While the run defense has been challenged, frankly it's been against 3 of the best backs in the game recently.

The Saints only need to do one thing right now: clean up the turnovers. A turnover free game next week would practically guarantee a win despite a banged up defense.

The Saints have three objectives they have to fulfill the rest of the regular season: Win the division, secure a playoff bye, and get healthy for the playoffs. Even if that cost the team two or three games, being healthy for the playoffs is more important than any supposed winning streak. With the Falclowns having to travel to play the now rested, and pissed off Giants who have been rejuvenated by the Cowgirls wetting their pants in Lambeau, we could have the division locked up by December 1st.

Get to the playoffs as healthy as possible. That's the goal.

SFIAH

Great Post. The Saints are in a good position to heal up and make a strong playoff run with a healthy team.

darstep 11-17-2009 03:28 PM

Re: so, let me get this straight...
 
Yep! All this 9-0, 12-0 crap is just that: CRAP! We need to be healthy for the playoffs...at home...in the Dome...with only one road game... The goal is to have all of our weapons at the ready with all cylinders firing in the post season. If it means dropping a few or giving away week 17 to ensure health in the post season, so be it. We are ahead of our schedule, way ahead. I had hoped that we would have a cushion at this point in the season and we've got Charmin! Man! the view is pretty good from here. I could get used to this.


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