WhoDat

Tampa will be this year - at least they should be. The Rams had been for a while up until last year\'s blunder. Oakland has been very good on all sides of the ball for a while. Miami would be if they could stay healthy. They should be this year. The Pack ain\'t bad, neither is Hotlanta. The Eagles, NE, even the Titans...

few are dominate, but all are at least better than average on both sides of the ball, many good. Yes, it is possible to have a top offense, defense, and special teams unit. Ask the Raiders - it got them to the Super Bowl last season. I\'d rather have the tenth best offense and tenth best defense than the best offense and 20th defense, I can tell you that much.

\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints’ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse


\"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

BillyCarpenter1

Sure, all of those teams are better overall than the Saints, but we had a 3-13 team 3 years ago. Were any of those teams 3-13 three years ago? Not to mention the fact that Ditka gave up a whole draft for Ricky Willimas.

WhoDat

Good point, but the team in \'00 wasn\'t THAT different than it was in \'99. The major impact players in \'00 were there in \'99. Obviously Blake and Brooks weren\'t. Nor Horn. I definitely credit the M-Bros for that. Haslett too. I just think he has reached the top of his ability. 7-9 to 10-6 is the best he can make us. We need something to get us over the hump, and I don\'t think we\'ve got it. Maybe a great D coord... I dunno. I\'m just not that impressed with the moves made since the first season.

[Edited on 2/9/2003 by WhoDat]

\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints’ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse


\"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

tweeky

The report I read said several teams were talking with Milloy, including the Saints. He probably relishes the opportunity to sign with a division rival and stick it to his old team. I\'m disappointed we didn\'t get him, but I\'m also encouraged that the Saints did go after him, we were apparently outbid by the bills.
Bills now have to cut someone and Len P. stated their starting safeties were really good, just not Milloy status. But then who is? I wonder if they\'ll let one go?

BillyCarpenter1

The Bills haven\'t signed him yet. Where did you see that and do you have a link?

tweeky

On a Bills website, so there\'s still hope that its a false rumor. I\'ll try to find link. Be right back...


OK< in ESPN Countdown lingo
Here it be dog...
http://billsreport.com/

[Edited on 2/9/2003 by tweeky]

BillyCarpenter1

Thanks Tweeky -- But I already saw that. I don\'t belevie it till it comes from espn or someone like that. Don\'t scare me like that again.

BlackandBlue

Well since it appears that the Saints have been active, I\'ll officially eat my own words right here. I\'ve always said that I\'m usually wrong twice a year- this would be #2. You heard it here first...

[Edited on 2/9/2003 by BlackandBlue]

saintfan

You\'re a licensed broker? I didn\'t know that. I get the feeling you think I should be impressed...wrong feeling.

What I find so interesting Whodat is that you\'re so fired up against the Defense this year. Where were you last year when the defense was givin up 20 points a game? You were blamin the TEAMS problems on Aaron Brooks...THAT\'S where you were. You didn\'t want to HEAR ANYthing about the defense because per you if Brooks had performed givin up 20 a game was ok. You weren\'t mad at Haz regarding the defense, you were mad at Haz because your boy Jake Delhomme wasn\'t starting, and that was LONG before Brooks got hurt. I just get frustrated with ya sometimes man. I don\'t think I\'ve ever seen a more negative human being. \"08\" comes close, but only close.

It\'s TRUE whodat. We don\'t have the leagues number one defense. I don\'t think we need to fire all the coaches either. I especially think we should give \'em a few games before we pass judgement.

I\'ll do you like you did Billy. I\'m not callin you out, I just get REALLY tired of your CONSTANT negativity. When was the last time you posted something POSITIVE about ANYone on this team? Since you\'re a licensed broker I\'ll ask you this: Are you as pessimistic about finance, cause there\'s not an optomistic bone in your body regarding New Orleans Saints Football. Not One...

C'mon Man...

JOESAM2002

Hey Whodat, I\'m broke too. Does that make me a broker? LOL. Let me ask you this about the Saints defense. Is what you\'re saying that after the 2000/2001 season when they decided to go bigger that \"if it ain\'t broke don\'t fix it.\" ? In other words rather than changeing the whole defense just tweak it with a better player here and there. You know kinda like they did the offense.