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OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Euphoria Bull... if they suck a fan has a right to say they suck! Sorry you are professionals its apart of the game deal with it. Fans pay them to perform and if they don't they deserve ...

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Old 12-28-2009, 01:37 PM   #11
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Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

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Bull... if they suck a fan has a right to say they suck!

Sorry you are professionals its apart of the game deal with it. Fans pay them to perform and if they don't they deserve to be called out.

My question is "who pays the bills"... the answer... the fans.
I agree 100%. I think the team and the organization know by now just how the fans feel. Hey there is no excuse for what happened. And if I want to voice my opinon then I think I have every right too. I work hard for my money. Sorry if a few millionairs like C. Grant and co. don't like it.
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:47 PM   #12
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Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

OK, maybe I took the wording in this story too literally.

It says :

Defensive end Charles Grant expressed his disappointment with fans who showered the New Orleans Saints with boos and expletives as they left the field Sunday.


I can appreciate everyone's opinion of Grant's play this year (or past couple of years), but to me that story is not about Charles Grant other than his reaction.


He is saying that the fans were yelling that the New Orleans Saints bleeping suck, not Charles Grant.

I draw the line on that. Many players gave it their all yesterday. Obviously many others did not, but have in almost every game this season.

As bad as our team played yesterday and even if they finish 13-4, they don't bleeping suck.

I would not have screamed that at the 1980, 1996, 1999 or 2005 Saints as a whole and I sure wouldn't say that about the 2009 squad no matter where and when this season ends. PERIOD.

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Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

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OK, maybe I took the wording in this story too literally.

It says :

Defensive end Charles Grant expressed his disappointment with fans who showered the New Orleans Saints with boos and expletives as they left the field Sunday.


I can appreciate everyone's opinion of Grant's play this year (or past couple of years), but to me that story is not about Charles Grant other than his reaction.


He is saying that the fans were yelling that the New Orleans Saints bleeping suck, not Charles Grant.

I draw the line on that. Many players gave it their all yesterday. Obviously many others did not, but have in almost every game this season.

As bad as our team played yesterday and even if they finish 13-4, they don't bleeping suck.

I would not have screamed that at the 1980, 1996, 1999 or 2005 Saints as a whole and I sure wouldn't say that about the 2009 squad no matter where and when this season ends. PERIOD.
Exactly. They're still the winningest team in Saints history. And that counts for something.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:59 PM   #14
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Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

Well when I was a kid I booed refs, and I might boo a guy like TO for some of his 'me-first' antics, I might even boo a team for a high level of suckage, but I'm not hanging over the rail screaming that kind of stuff - that makes it personal. I think it's a bit over the top.
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Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

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25 years ago I might have yelled "You Suck!" and beat my chest proclaiming my fanhood.

Those 25 years are behind me now. These days I see that behavior as inappropriate, and certainly not something I would want my daughter to see me doing. ...
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Now I make it a point to hold my wife's hand lovingly, and be a good husband while we walk the Walk of Sad down the slippery Terrace steps & ramps. She knows I need ice cream. Its gonna get better.

Maybe 25 years from now I'll not keep thinking fire that idiot kicker.
ok.

As fans, we have to lose our obsession with how much more money that guy makes than you. Maybe if you got your fat butt off the couch and exercised a little, you could make a bigger check too. Its not Charles Grant's fault you cant play ball. He didnt put a gun to your head and make you choose a career at Walmart. You'd cry like a toddler, if you had to do a day of training camp, even for a million dollars, and you'd lay there and cry from one of the hits these guys takes, so dont be a hater.

Dont be a jerk in the stands. These guys can sometimes choose where they play, or how much they play for. The more you act like an *******, the more they think, "this is a business, **** them."

So man up & represent yourself well.

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Re: OK, now here's where this fan draws the line...

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Zooey is proud of you, and will probably go out with you now. Yes, growing up is a good thing. Same here.
Now I make it a point to hold my wife's hand lovingly, and be a good husband while we walk the Walk of Sad down the slippery Terrace steps & ramps. She knows I need ice cream. Its gonna get better.

Maybe 25 years from now I'll not keep thinking fire that idiot kicker.
ok.

As fans, we have to lose our obsession with how much more money that guy makes than you. Maybe if you got your fat butt off the couch and exercised a little, you could make a bigger check too. Its not Charles Grant's fault you cant play ball. He didnt put a gun to your head and make you choose a career at Walmart. You'd cry like a toddler, if you had to do a day of training camp, even for a million dollars, and you'd lay there and cry from one of the hits these guys takes, so dont be a hater.

Dont be a jerk in the stands. These guys can sometimes choose where they play, or how much they play for. The more you act like an *******, the more they think, "this is a business, **** them."

So man up & represent yourself well.
I agree with all of this but I must add that Grant has been in the league long enough to expect to this kind of fan after a huge loss. He still has a little growing up to do as well.
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Zooey is proud of you, and will probably go out with you now. Yes, growing up is a good thing. Same here.
Now I make it a point to hold my wife's hand lovingly, and be a good husband while we walk the Walk of Sad down the slippery Terrace steps & ramps. She knows I need ice cream. Its gonna get better.

Maybe 25 years from now I'll not keep thinking fire that idiot kicker.
ok.

As fans, we have to lose our obsession with how much more money that guy makes than you. Maybe if you got your fat butt off the couch and exercised a little, you could make a bigger check too. Its not Charles Grant's fault you cant play ball. He didnt put a gun to your head and make you choose a career at Walmart. You'd cry like a toddler, if you had to do a day of training camp, even for a million dollars, and you'd lay there and cry from one of the hits these guys takes, so dont be a hater.

Dont be a jerk in the stands. These guys can sometimes choose where they play, or how much they play for. The more you act like an *******, the more they think, "this is a business, **** them."

So man up & represent yourself well.

Hey Mike ...i have to disagree i would let these guys stomp on me and rub my face in the dirt for a million dollars...lol..Hell i would even fight C.Grant for some chikin wings...
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Hey Mike ...i have to disagree i would let these guys stomp on me and rub my face in the dirt for a million dollars...lol..Hell i would even fight C.Grant for some chikin wings...
I know, I'm poor enough to work much cheaper too--haa!

I think they should have football fantasy camp, like they do in baseball. let us suit up & go thru all the drills, etc. You'd have a lot fewer fat losers yelling crap from the stands. It would be more like, "oooh, I dont think I could have tacked that guy, either. We'll get em next time."
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Zooey is proud of you, and will probably go out with you now.
I'm sorry. You had me right here. I know you typed a lot more, but...well...you know...
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I know, I'm poor enough to work much cheaper too--haa!

I think they should have football fantasy camp, like they do in baseball. let us suit up & go thru all the drills, etc. You'd have a lot fewer fat losers yelling crap from the stands. It would be more like, "oooh, I dont think I could have tacked that guy, either. We'll get em next time."
Yeah yelling that stuff is not cool..but im sure they were drunk and feel bad today...lol..and Grant can get in his Million dollar ride and turn up the tunes and laugh....The only positive is maybe he feels some guilt from all the money he stole..I still say as big as he's gotten we should experiment putting him at DT and Hargrove on the edge...We got to do something ..our run D is terrible..
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