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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Had to wait until now to post.....head is still reeling....stomach is till weak. Embarassing. That is the only word to describe it. But we have hope. We can\'t play worse. I could sit here and nit-pick the plays, the players, ...

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Old 09-07-2003, 10:54 PM   #21
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Had to wait until now to post.....head is still reeling....stomach is till weak.

Embarassing. That is the only word to describe it. But we have hope. We can\'t play worse.

I could sit here and nit-pick the plays, the players, the coaches, the decision.....but why. We all know what happened, we all know what we said before the regular season started, and we all know where we stand right now.

Let\'s forget this fast and think about Houston. We can be more effective defensively against them I believe, but we really need to get creative and sharpen up on offense, because Capers fields a strong defense. It will be a slow battle IMO and will come down to a field position game. No butter on the ball this week please.

Now I\'m going throw up one more time and pass out. I even did the whole voodoo this week. Neighbor came by to console me after. Scared his kids I think.
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Old 09-08-2003, 06:44 AM   #22
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Gator:
These guys have no heart. AND THATS THE PROBLEM.
Their not even scrappy. Our playmakers don\'t shine. Our Vets don\'t lead.
Its just that simple!

This team is lifeless.




[Edited on 8/9/2003 by tweeky]
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Old 09-08-2003, 07:12 AM   #23
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I\'m going to start by giving props to Gator. Not b/c he apologized to me, but b/c he was big enough to come out and say he was wrong. No one else on this board has done that yet. Besides, Gator was quiet towards the end of the offseason anyway. I\'ve known Gator through this board for a while. Him being quiet means he\'s thinking, or hasn\'t made up his mind. I\'m glad to see that he was big enough to say that he had been mistaken in the past and now has made his own decisions based on what he SAW and not what the COACHING STAFF PROMISED.

Next - TO BILLY - let me say this - if you didn\'t think there was going to be a flood of doomsday talk after that performance... well, welcome to BnG.net during the regular season. I stand by my old predictions. All is not lost, we\'ll be 8-8 or 7-9. This team will win some games. They remain incredibly talented on offense. But like I said, the defense didn\'t get any better this off season. They\'re bad and will stay that way. The offense will pick it up over this week\'s performance, but I don\'t expect last year\'s type of numbers again.

Hey man, there are some positives. You\'ve just got to know that there\'s going to be negative talk like that after a game like that. Also, you\'re problem is first you credited the Saints for all the moves in the offseason, when a lot of us questioned. Then you acted like we were insane for questioning. Then you said preseason didn\'t count when they stunk it up, and again attacked us for questioning. Now you\'re going with the \"It\'s just one game\" tagline? OK. Let\'s see how far that gets you.

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Old 09-08-2003, 07:42 AM   #24
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WhoDat -- Is this what you\'re looking for? I was so terribly wrong. I have now given up on the Saints. There is no reason to think the offense will outscore anyone. Michael Lewis is a one year wonder. The defense played it\'s best game of the year and it will only get worst from here.

I now bow down to everyone who told me from the begining that the Saints sucked!! I have now jumped off the bandwagon with you guys. If they start winning I will be a MAN and not jump back on the bandwagon if they start winning, as I\'m sure you will do the same.
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Old 09-08-2003, 09:16 AM   #25
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I have not read where anyone has said the season is over. I have read alot of people calling the play of the saints they way they saw it. PATHETIC! Billy, I don\'t know what team you have been following in years past but whoever it was their fans obviously had no passion.

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Old 09-08-2003, 10:43 AM   #26
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No Billy, I\'m not suggesting that you say that... go ahead and continue to be optimistic. Tell us all why the Saints are going to win next week, and continue to do that all the way into the playoffs.

If you read any post I\'ve written I continue to say, don\'t panick, it\'s only one game. However, a lot of my fears and doubts materialized ON THE FIELD WHEN IT COUNTED yesterday. So far, I don\'t think any of your predictions have materialized, have they?

But hey, you are right, it\'s only one game.

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Old 09-08-2003, 12:21 PM   #27
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The thing is it\'s not just one game. Its several games to end the season last year, it\'s the whole off season, its the whole pre season and finaly the first game of the season. If every thing had been great all along and this first game stood out as something different I would accept the it\'s just one game excuse. This is a mountain of failures that is beginning to pile up higher and higher with every opportunity. I am in no way saying all is doom and the team is without positives, but the problems are too many, and some just keep hainging around and happening over and over.

This team makes way to many mistakes and finds all sorts of ways to lose games. Eveyone in here knows that good teams are the one that don\'t beat themselves. Yet this team last year was one of the most penilized teams in the league, this was apperent in this preseason and was a problem again on Sunday. Key drives and opportunities squandered by mental breakdown and miscommunications, some so bad they resulted in turnovers.Tackling is another huge problem for this team. Again this is not a new issue it has dogged this team through out the span I\'m discussing. Tackling is as fundamental a component of this sport as there is. When a team has consistant trouble with it over several groups of players this says something.

This off season was another filled with roster moves and changes, I questioned many of those moves along with many here as well. Many of those moves have shown no real reason to believe they were good moves or will work out. Good productive players are let go and salary cap does not explain all of there dismissals or lack of effort to sign other seemingly more obvious better suited choices. I am speaking in general terms here and not specific players because we have disscussed this so many times it seem s needless to do so. I\'ll be happy to elaborate if necessary.

The real point I\'m trying to make is there have been good things done in New Orleans but there is an unavoidable host of problems all indicating there is plenty wrong as well. Patterns tell stories and the tale these patterns are telling is one of a coach and a management who just do\'nt seem to know how to put it all together. One that has skills and understading ,but not enough. The standard is high and unfair often but in this intensly competive environment only success counts. This team still has chances but they have yet to show the are able or should be expected to make the most of those chances.

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Old 09-08-2003, 01:34 PM   #28
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I agree with most of that post... let me say this...

I don\'t believe that expecting a team that had the highest scoring offense in the NFC, the leading rusher in the NFC, three very good receiverd, and supposed star in the making at QB, one of the best special teams units (including two pro bowlers), a coach entering his 4th season, and the fifth most money available under the cap to make the playoffs is expecting too much.

I stand by my previous comments. This is HASLETT\'S team. He\'s had his chances. It\'s his fourth season - no more excuses. Put up, or it\'s time to look elsewhere.

The reality of the situation is that I don\'t think that will happen unless the Saints really implode to the tume of 5-11 or so... which I don\'t think will happen. SO expect to see more of this for years to come. 8-8 or 9-7 and a game or two away...

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Old 09-08-2003, 01:53 PM   #29
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don\'t believe that expecting a team that had the highest scoring offense in the NFC, the leading rusher in the NFC, three very good receiverd, and supposed star in the making at QB, one of the best special teams units (including two pro bowlers), a coach entering his 4th season, and the fifth most money available under the cap to make the playoffs is expecting too much.
I agree and hope 8-8 or 9-7 and a game or two away is not accepted.The standard is high, brutally high, just ask Tony Dungy. This all about winning the Super Bowl, I agree Haslett made the team better took us to a place we had never been, but that is not the measure.

I stand by my previous comments. This is HASLETT\'S team. He\'s had his chances. It\'s his fourth season - no more excuses. Put up, or it\'s time to look elsewhere.
I agree 100% he has to prove he has what it takes. I\'d love it if he did.

[Edited on 9/8/2003 by saint5221]
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Old 09-08-2003, 02:00 PM   #30
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P.S. B&B, sorry about the edit job on you AH and then using it myself but my quote just wouldn\'t have the same meaning if I didn\'t use it.
Makes no difference, I don’t remember making any of the posts I did yesterday. I was mentally on a different planet by 5:00pm, if that makes any sense. Besides, I don’t really care, I pay nothing to come here and chat everyday.
Oh, and we beat ourselves, yes, the Seahawks did what they had to do to win the game, and their defense, though didn\'t stop the rush or the pass, was hitting our recievers HARD. Brooks wasn\'t bad, except for the fumbles, his completion percentage was 61% and the interception wasn\'t his fault. And Grant had a motor that wouldn\'t quit, he was in the backfield most of the game. Take away the turnovers and the Saints win this game. And if I never see Horn or Stallworth run another crossing pattern ever again, I\'ll be a happy man.

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