My analysis of Beanie Wells

cargojon · 01-12-2010, 01:43 PM

OK, so the Cards fans are all hot to trot about Beanie Wells. How he's averaged XXX yards per carry, blah blah blah.

Here's the dirty little secret on Wells:

He'll usually have one long run in a game, and aside from that average 4 ypc or under.

Examples:
Sunday vs. Green Bay - 14 carries, 91 yards, 6.5 ypc. But had 1 run of 42 yards...take that out and he's at 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre.

Week 14 vs. San Fran - 15 carries, 79 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 23 yards...take that out and he's at 4 ypc. Very average.

Week 10 vs. Seattle - 16 carries, 85 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 29 yards...take that out and he's back to 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre

Only real exception to this rule I can find is vs. the Lion in week 15. 17 carries, 110 yards, 6.5 ypc. Still had a carry of 33 yards, which if you take out results in a 4.8 ypc average...which is decent - but it's the Lions...so yeah.

The point is - Beanie might hit you for a big play once a game (20+ yards). If you don't let that one hurt you, you pretty much have a below average running back on your hands averaging under 4 ypc.

exile · 01-12-2010, 01:47 PM

I agree cargo. The one thing I would add about Wells is that you had better get a good tackle on the guy because he can run defenders over. I think he'll be a great back in this league one day.

Let's all hope our defensive tackling magically appears.

strato · 01-12-2010, 01:47 PM

Beanie Weeny..

iceshack149 · 01-12-2010, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by cargojon

OK, so the Cards fans are all hot to trot about Beanie Wells. How he's averaged XXX yards per carry, blah blah blah.

Here's the dirty little secret on Wells:

He'll usually have one long run in a game, and aside from that average 4 ypc or under.

Examples:
Sunday vs. Green Bay - 14 carries, 91 yards, 6.5 ypc. But had 1 run of 42 yards...take that out and he's at 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre.

Week 14 vs. San Fran - 15 carries, 79 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 23 yards...take that out and he's at 4 ypc. Very average.

Week 10 vs. Seattle - 16 carries, 85 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 29 yards...take that out and he's back to 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre

Only real exception to this rule I can find is vs. the Lion in week 15. 17 carries, 110 yards, 6.5 ypc. Still had a carry of 33 yards, which if you take out results in a 4.8 ypc average...which is decent - but it's the Lions...so yeah.

The point is - Beanie might hit you for a big play once a game (20+ yards). If you don't let that one hurt you, you pretty much have a below average running back on your hands averaging under 4 ypc.

Those numbers sound good to me. The kid has promise and has played well. I'll still take Jenkins over him due to the fact that the Saints have above average RB's and Jenkins has played well when not forced in to a starting CB position.

cargojon · 01-12-2010, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Those numbers sound good to me. The kid has promise and has played well. I'll still take Jenkins over him due to the fact that the Saints have above average RB's and Jenkins has played well when not forced in to a starting CB position.

Reggie Bush averaged 3.7 ypc his first three years in the league and everyone was ready to run him out of town.

I think Beanie CAN be good if he stays healthy. Right now though, I'm not scared of him. DeAngelo Williams, Michael Turner, etc. he is not.

CantonLegend · 01-12-2010, 02:16 PM

if we had a running back that could run 15 times for nearly 100 yards every game then i would be more than happy with his production

you can not take away his accomplishments.....he earned those runs.....if he gets fed the ball only 10 to 15 times a game and still manages to pop off at least one long run then you shouldnt take that away because there are a lot more backs in the league that can run 20 to 25 times per game and not manage to pull off one of those big gainers

wells is goin to be a star in the league because he had the ability to learn behind a veteran line and a second year starter

he didnt have to jump into the starting lineup in game 1 and be a stud.....he had time to develop and when he made a mistake, he got to see what a proven guy would do in that situation

beanie is a legitimate threat because he can knock off those big runs

and most running backs in the league cant manage a 100 yard game without some type of big play at any given point in the game

strato · 01-12-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by cargojon

Reggie Bush averaged 3.7 ypc his first three years in the league and everyone was ready to run him out of town.

I think Beanie CAN be good if he stays healthy. Right now though, I'm not scared of him. DeAngelo Williams, Michael Turner, etc. he is not.

Agreed....weve faced way better backs..just didnt stop them..lol...Beanie will be good.... just not this Saturday...

strato · 01-12-2010, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

if we had a running back that could run 15 times for nearly 100 yards every game then i would be more than happy with his production

you can not take away his accomplishments.....he earned those runs.....if he gets fed the ball only 10 to 15 times a game and still manages to pop off at least one long run then you shouldnt take that away because there are a lot more backs in the league that can run 20 to 25 times per game and not manage to pull off one of those big gainers

wells is goin to be a star in the league because he had the ability to learn behind a veteran line and a second year starter

he didnt have to jump into the starting lineup in game 1 and be a stud.....he had time to develop and when he made a mistake, he got to see what a proven guy would do in that situation

beanie is a legitimate threat because he can knock off those big runs

and most running backs in the league cant manage a 100 yard game without some type of big play at any given point in the game

Spoken like a true Ohio State Fan...lol..he will be a good back..i wanted to draft him..

cargojon · 01-12-2010, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

if we had a running back that could run 15 times for nearly 100 yards every game then i would be more than happy with his production

you can not take away his accomplishments.....he earned those runs.....if he gets fed the ball only 10 to 15 times a game and still manages to pop off at least one long run then you shouldnt take that away because there are a lot more backs in the league that can run 20 to 25 times per game and not manage to pull off one of those big gainers

wells is goin to be a star in the league because he had the ability to learn behind a veteran line and a second year starter

he didnt have to jump into the starting lineup in game 1 and be a stud.....he had time to develop and when he made a mistake, he got to see what a proven guy would do in that situation

beanie is a legitimate threat because he can knock off those big runs

and most running backs in the league cant manage a 100 yard game without some type of big play at any given point in the game

Beanie's only broken 100 once this year, and only broken 80 once as well (not counting this playoff game).

My point is that he doesn't have great numbers. If a guy is cracking off a 20-30-40 yard run each game, it should translate into a higher total yard per game than what Beanie's getting. Meaning the rest of his runs aren't cutting it.

Let's compare to Pierre Thomas, who's broken the 80 figure three times and the 100 figure once as well.
Week 3 vs. BUF - 14 for 126 (9 ypc), take off his long of 34 and he's still at 7.1 YPC
Week 8 vs. ATL - 14 for 91 (6.5 ypc), take off his long of 30, and he's still at 4.4 ypc
The first Tampa game - take of his long of 23 and he's averaging 6.3 ypc.

This is what I don't see out of Beanie.

st thomas · 01-12-2010, 02:39 PM

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01-12-2010, 01:43 PM	#1
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	My analysis of Beanie Wells OK, so the Cards fans are all hot to trot about Beanie Wells. How he's averaged XXX yards per carry, blah blah blah. Here's the dirty little secret on Wells: He'll usually have one long run in a game, and aside from that average 4 ypc or under. Examples: Sunday vs. Green Bay - 14 carries, 91 yards, 6.5 ypc. But had 1 run of 42 yards...take that out and he's at 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre. Week 14 vs. San Fran - 15 carries, 79 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 23 yards...take that out and he's at 4 ypc. Very average. Week 10 vs. Seattle - 16 carries, 85 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 29 yards...take that out and he's back to 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre Only real exception to this rule I can find is vs. the Lion in week 15. 17 carries, 110 yards, 6.5 ypc. Still had a carry of 33 yards, which if you take out results in a 4.8 ypc average...which is decent - but it's the Lions...so yeah. The point is - Beanie might hit you for a big play once a game (20+ yards). If you don't let that one hurt you, you pretty much have a below average running back on your hands averaging under 4 ypc.
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01-12-2010, 01:47 PM	#2
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells I agree cargo. The one thing I would add about Wells is that you had better get a good tackle on the guy because he can run defenders over. I think he'll be a great back in this league one day. Let's all hope our defensive tackling magically appears.
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strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells Beanie Weeny..

01-12-2010, 02:08 PM	#4
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,085 Blog Entries: 1	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells Originally Posted by cargojon OK, so the Cards fans are all hot to trot about Beanie Wells. How he's averaged XXX yards per carry, blah blah blah. Here's the dirty little secret on Wells: He'll usually have one long run in a game, and aside from that average 4 ypc or under. Examples: Sunday vs. Green Bay - 14 carries, 91 yards, 6.5 ypc. But had 1 run of 42 yards...take that out and he's at 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre. Week 14 vs. San Fran - 15 carries, 79 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 23 yards...take that out and he's at 4 ypc. Very average. Week 10 vs. Seattle - 16 carries, 85 yards, 5.3 ypc. But had 1 run of 29 yards...take that out and he's back to 3.7 ypc. Very mediocre Only real exception to this rule I can find is vs. the Lion in week 15. 17 carries, 110 yards, 6.5 ypc. Still had a carry of 33 yards, which if you take out results in a 4.8 ypc average...which is decent - but it's the Lions...so yeah. The point is - Beanie might hit you for a big play once a game (20+ yards). If you don't let that one hurt you, you pretty much have a below average running back on your hands averaging under 4 ypc. Those numbers sound good to me. The kid has promise and has played well. I'll still take Jenkins over him due to the fact that the Saints have above average RB's and Jenkins has played well when not forced in to a starting CB position.

01-12-2010, 02:16 PM	#5
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells Originally Posted by iceshack149 Those numbers sound good to me. The kid has promise and has played well. I'll still take Jenkins over him due to the fact that the Saints have above average RB's and Jenkins has played well when not forced in to a starting CB position. Reggie Bush averaged 3.7 ypc his first three years in the league and everyone was ready to run him out of town. I think Beanie CAN be good if he stays healthy. Right now though, I'm not scared of him. DeAngelo Williams, Michael Turner, etc. he is not.
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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells if we had a running back that could run 15 times for nearly 100 yards every game then i would be more than happy with his production you can not take away his accomplishments.....he earned those runs.....if he gets fed the ball only 10 to 15 times a game and still manages to pop off at least one long run then you shouldnt take that away because there are a lot more backs in the league that can run 20 to 25 times per game and not manage to pull off one of those big gainers wells is goin to be a star in the league because he had the ability to learn behind a veteran line and a second year starter he didnt have to jump into the starting lineup in game 1 and be a stud.....he had time to develop and when he made a mistake, he got to see what a proven guy would do in that situation beanie is a legitimate threat because he can knock off those big runs and most running backs in the league cant manage a 100 yard game without some type of big play at any given point in the game
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strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells Originally Posted by cargojon Reggie Bush averaged 3.7 ypc his first three years in the league and everyone was ready to run him out of town. I think Beanie CAN be good if he stays healthy. Right now though, I'm not scared of him. DeAngelo Williams, Michael Turner, etc. he is not. Agreed....weve faced way better backs..just didnt stop them..lol...Beanie will be good.... just not this Saturday...

01-12-2010, 02:19 PM	#8
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells Originally Posted by CantonLegend if we had a running back that could run 15 times for nearly 100 yards every game then i would be more than happy with his production you can not take away his accomplishments.....he earned those runs.....if he gets fed the ball only 10 to 15 times a game and still manages to pop off at least one long run then you shouldnt take that away because there are a lot more backs in the league that can run 20 to 25 times per game and not manage to pull off one of those big gainers wells is goin to be a star in the league because he had the ability to learn behind a veteran line and a second year starter he didnt have to jump into the starting lineup in game 1 and be a stud.....he had time to develop and when he made a mistake, he got to see what a proven guy would do in that situation beanie is a legitimate threat because he can knock off those big runs and most running backs in the league cant manage a 100 yard game without some type of big play at any given point in the game Spoken like a true Ohio State Fan...lol..he will be a good back..i wanted to draft him..

01-12-2010, 02:32 PM	#9
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: My analysis of Beanie Wells Originally Posted by CantonLegend if we had a running back that could run 15 times for nearly 100 yards every game then i would be more than happy with his production you can not take away his accomplishments.....he earned those runs.....if he gets fed the ball only 10 to 15 times a game and still manages to pop off at least one long run then you shouldnt take that away because there are a lot more backs in the league that can run 20 to 25 times per game and not manage to pull off one of those big gainers wells is goin to be a star in the league because he had the ability to learn behind a veteran line and a second year starter he didnt have to jump into the starting lineup in game 1 and be a stud.....he had time to develop and when he made a mistake, he got to see what a proven guy would do in that situation beanie is a legitimate threat because he can knock off those big runs and most running backs in the league cant manage a 100 yard game without some type of big play at any given point in the game Beanie's only broken 100 once this year, and only broken 80 once as well (not counting this playoff game). My point is that he doesn't have great numbers. If a guy is cracking off a 20-30-40 yard run each game, it should translate into a higher total yard per game than what Beanie's getting. Meaning the rest of his runs aren't cutting it. Let's compare to Pierre Thomas, who's broken the 80 figure three times and the 100 figure once as well. Week 3 vs. BUF - 14 for 126 (9 ypc), take off his long of 34 and he's still at 7.1 YPC Week 8 vs. ATL - 14 for 91 (6.5 ypc), take off his long of 30, and he's still at 4.4 ypc The first Tampa game - take of his long of 23 and he's averaging 6.3 ypc. This is what I don't see out of Beanie.
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