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SaintPauly 01-29-2010 02:19 AM

Saints Hatred?
 
Ok, we haven't even played in our first freaking superbowl yet, and it seems that from the media, to fans of other teams, are all completely against us all the sudden? I don't get it. What the hell have we done to anybody? This team played their freaking butts off, to get where they are, and this is the thanks they get? None of our players have anything close to an ego, personal problems, or problems with the law, but people hate them? I don't get this at all. To me, this goes to show, that the entire country is going to Hell, and they are happy as can be, to be on the ride.

Talk all you want about the team I guess, if that's all you can do, to make yourself feel better about your team losing, but leave Katrina, and the thousands of dead bodies, and destroyed homes and lives OUT OF IT. Pardon my violent nature, but when I read stuff like I have been reading lately, IT MAKES ME VIOLENTLY ANGRY. All I want to do, is start laying people out fist to face, because they are too stupid to be breathing.

My entire family lives on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi. My cousin lost her house, her cars, all of her possessions, and almost her life, along with her two kids. The Gulf Coast still looks like an a-bomb hit it, for the most part, so to hear people relating their hate for a football team, to this kind of catastrophe is not only infuriating, it's un called for.

If these people have no better moral's, or even value for human life than this, then I can only blame their parents, for being such terrible people, that they allow their children to act this way. It's disgusting.

So I say this. Hate us. I officially don't care anymore. With your "kind", I will consider it a compliment to be hated by you, and anyone like you.

I wonder how many of these morons even know how many Colts players are from the Gulf Coast area, and how much suffering they went through themselves. Probably not. Most people with no class, stay that way, their entire lives.

FatCitySaint 01-29-2010 02:37 AM

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Cause we beat up on poor Brent Farvra!!!!!;)

Crusader 01-29-2010 02:44 AM

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They hate us because they fear us.

SaintPauly 01-29-2010 02:44 AM

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AND FAVRE IS FROM THAT AREA TOO! That's what don't make any damn sense! What are these idiots thinking?

SaintGup 01-29-2010 03:02 AM

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There is envy; envy because a small market city has amazing support and shows what real fans are. And what true support is. They do not like that we don't know our place and we should always be lovable losers. They don' like that we stopped their ideal Superbowl. Tough old vet Brett against one of the best quarterbacks to ever play, what a matchup it would have been but DAMN.... those boys from the Bayou ruined it all. They do not like the fact that we have bounced back from a terrible disaster and are helping to rebuild. You are right, SaintPaul25. We have done nothing but get our heads down, work hard and do our best with no brash, loudmouth smack talk. But the problem is as I have said before 'We failed to know our place'
'There is no shame being born in the gutter, but it's a terrible shame to want to stay there' is a saying from a book/tv series 'Sharpe'. About a soldier who jumped from the ranks to become an officer and he was very unpopular with the other officers (this was set in 1800's when you had to be of high birth to be an officer and Sharpe was the son of a whore) We will never be an Elite team, not even if we win the next three Superbowls, because we will always be called lucky or undeserving.

Choupique 01-29-2010 03:09 AM

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When ya hate.... you lose.

Thanks! They are helping us!


They are part of the DoucheBag Nation.

We are part of the Who Dat Nation. I prefer being a part of the latter.
Let them wallow in their hatred. They are the cause of their own bad karma.

Just say neaux to Dolts.

SaintPauly 01-29-2010 03:09 AM

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Gup, that makes total sense to me. I grew up outta nothing in Stallo, Mississippi, and made it all the way to California, and still have people look down on me. That's fine. It builds better character in my opinion. I have been a Saints fan, since before most of these spoiled rotten little brats were outta dirty diapers. And regardless of what the majority of the people in this country believe, or see when they look at these Saints, they are OUR SAINTS. Underdog for life!

Choupique 01-29-2010 04:19 AM

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Underdogism is like spinach to popeye.

Just Say Neaux To Dolts. WHO DAT.

breesfan27 01-29-2010 04:28 AM

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I asked my boyfriend this same question. This was his answer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
They hate you because you are no longer inferior to them anymore. Because the Saints are doing so well, and their teams are sitting at home, they don't like it, so they will say anything and everything to make you feel as bad as they do. You can't let it get to you, honey. Look at Patriots fans. They were in your shoes a few years ago. People hated them and their team because they were winning all the time. Same with Denver and Broncos fans in the late 90s. They hated us because we were winning. Jealousy is a sickness that affects millions of people every day!

He's so smart and cute! ;)

CantonLegend 01-29-2010 05:16 AM

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its not so much the city hatred that we are getting that i dont like

mostly because i dont live in New Orleans......its the "i told you so" hate

everybody always wants to tell me that they knew the saints sucked.....that they knew the saints were terrible

when we lost to the cowboys.....it was "see i told you so"....."i told you they couldnt win and arent any good"

completely forgetting about the 10 straight weeks of domination that had preceded that

in the playoffs we torture the cardinals for 4 qtrs and get a few fans back.....then we play in one of the best championship games of all time and are back to the original fans from the beginning of the season because of either how dirty we play, how terrible our defense is, or how awful our offense played

despite winning......we are still losers....until we win

i tell my kids every season.....it doesnt matter how many games you win....its which games you win

you can win all 10 games in the regular season and still lose in the first round of the playoffs

or.....you could go 5-5 and still win the state championship.....

its our time.....there isnt any sort of higher entity that is guiding this team if there ever was this season.....there isnt some sort of fate or destiny that this team has to fulfill.....

this team is just better than the colts....in nearly every way

skymike 01-29-2010 06:26 AM

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God Bless you, Mississippi brothers and sisters. You have a lot to do with the Saints staying in New Orleans. Your training camp was off the charts. If I owned the Saints, there would be a Mississippi Appreciation day, complete with parade, meet & greet with players, and your own preseason game.

Jabba 01-29-2010 07:42 AM

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Well, I am from Indy... I am a Colts fan... and I don't hate you. Not very many of us do. We share the same small market issues you do. In fact, it seemed like to us... the whole season when the Colts and the Saints were both undefeated... all we heard about was the Saints. The Colts got no respect.

We get that. It's been like that for a decade with us. The Colts have won more games than ANYONE else, in the best division in football for the last 10 years... and we STILL get no respect.

The Saints are awesome. I have said it all year. I like the Saints. I rooted for the Vikings. For one simple reason. I think they would be easier for the Colts to beat.

If your guys win, I'll be happy as hell for you. These two teams are both classy, down to earth, well mannered, programs that deserve to be where they are. The fact that we're both small market teams is proof that the league has gotten what it wanted with equity, and that no longer can the unscrupulous Owners simply BUY Lombardi Trophy's.

Congratulation to all you Saints fans. 9 more days...

Jabba

skymike 01-29-2010 07:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba (Post 200544)
The fact that we're both small market teams is proof that the league has gotten what it wanted with equity, and that no longer can the unscrupulous Owners simply BUY Lombardi Trophy's.

thats a great point. Baseball should learn from this. The Yankees have made baseball pointless.

strato 01-29-2010 08:04 AM

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I know what you mean ..i got it from three cowboy fans at the hardware store yesterday..The were saying that they were the better team and we got lucky.I didnt say much back except when i was walking out the door..i turned back and said.."How Bout Dem Cowboys"...lol...which they followed with a big F**k U..lol...i just kept walkin.. The things a Saints fan has to endure..

xan 01-29-2010 08:25 AM

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We upset the natural order of things. Of course we're going to get our fair share of hatred. Those in power want to keep power, even if they have bad ideas or bad execution.

That's why you've got a media bias towards Brett Favre, he gives the media what they want - drama and conflict on an historically important team. That's why the Cowboys got so much love in round 1 even though they really weren't very good.

We're not all that interesting because most of the players on our team don't do stupid things that create drama. In reality, nobody likes the selfless act, and bad actors find ways to make those, for whom charity begins at home, into flawed and unsympathetic creatures.

We celebrate the Donald for his cunning in getting bailed out of bankruptcy because he was "too big to fail," but we punish the little guy whose original restaurant "Taj Mahal" must change his name because the Donald owns it for his new casino.

The only way to stop the disrespect is to squash them like a bug on the playing field, with dignity.

Choupique 01-29-2010 08:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 200523)
God Bless you, Mississippi brothers and sisters. You have a lot to do with the Saints staying in New Orleans. Your training camp was off the charts. If I owned the Saints, there would be a Mississippi Appreciation day, complete with parade, meet & greet with players, and your own preseason game.


That is actually a great idea.

Go a step further.

Gulf Coast Appreciation Week!

They Can't Keep Who Dat Down?

strato 01-29-2010 08:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 200561)
That is actually a great idea.

Go a step further.

Gulf Coast Appreciation Week!

They Can't Keep Who Dat Down?

Just extend that all the way to Texas and you got it goin on.

Choupique 01-29-2010 08:37 AM

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We upset the natural order of things. Of course we're going to get our fair share of hatred. Those in power want to keep power, even if they have bad ideas or bad execution.


Who dat got their pants on the ground? Warner? Favre?


They didn't see the Saints coming and they had plenty of time for preperation. Shame on them.


That's why you've got a media bias towards Brett Favre, he gives the media what they want - drama and conflict on an historically important team. That's why the Cowboys got so much love in round 1 even though they really weren't very good.

Saints 2
Hollyweirdo Talking Heads 0


We're not all that interesting because most of the players on our team don't do stupid things that create drama. In reality, nobody likes the selfless act, and bad actors find ways to make those, for whom charity begins at home, into flawed and unsympathetic creatures.

Sharper is their reality. They ain't ready for this much meauxjeaux.
Just say neaux to dolts.

We celebrate the Donald for his cunning in getting bailed out of bankruptcy because he was "too big to fail," but we punish the little guy whose original restaurant "Taj Mahal" must change his name because the Donald owns it for his new casino.

Not sure what to say except who dat.

The only way to stop the disrespect is to squash them like a bug on the playing field, with dignity.

Well said.

Seriously, good points. We smashed the natural order of WHAT THEY EXPECTED IN THEIR MINDS but the actual natural order was the Saints were the #1 seed. Oops.

Saint_LB 01-29-2010 08:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 200508)
.....it doesnt matter how many games you win....its which games you win

you can win all 10 games in the regular season and still lose in the first round of the playoffs

or.....you could go 5-5 and still win the state championship.....

I couldn't help comment here...this is completely true. In 1974, I believe it was, I played for MGCJC and we went 5-5 in the regular season...but we were 4-1 in the South division, so that was good enough to win the South. We ended up winning the state championship that year by beating Itawamba in the state championship game and finishing 6-5 for the year.

I think part of the problem is us...the fans of the Saints. We are not use to this, have not ever been here before, and don't realize that all teams go through this to some degree. There are always happy winners and sore losers...always.

exile 01-29-2010 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 200564)
I think part of the problem is us...the fans of the Saints. We are not use to this, have not ever been here before, and don't realize that all teams go through this to some degree. There are always happy winners and sore losers...always.

Good points. Well except for the '72 Dolphins. :mrgreen:

Choupique 01-29-2010 08:39 AM

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I've never seen the Nation get in a tissy over the decades of Pittsburghers dirty hits.

Not sure what to say. I agree to a degree with some disclaimers.

Ashley 01-29-2010 08:52 AM

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IT MAKES ME VIOLENTLY ANGRY. All I want to do, is start laying people out fist to face,
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I'm with ya man, when i heard that jackass from Seattle. That crap infuriates me. I also say to hell with anybody who is not a Saints fan and says Sh*t like that. Would love from some A** to say those things to me in person.

exile 01-29-2010 08:58 AM

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I talked to a Patriots fan (an old friend) yesterday and he says that Boston is all Black and Gold. So I would guess the AFC cities love us and the NFC cities have jealous hatred.

Stiggs 01-29-2010 09:17 AM

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All I've heard all season is a deafening silence regarding the Saints. Haven't yet encountered any real Saints Hatred, except from a few cryin' Vikes fans. It seems to me that the "silent majority" out there is cheering for the Saints, but the national media missed it's "Farve Drama Story" so it's pissed. F' em. We're in the SUPER BOWL.

JoanieNTX 01-29-2010 09:20 AM

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Chalk it all up to ignorance, and keep on goin! People envy people who make it to the top, and then the hating starts. This is in all aspects of life. Very few people are gracious enough to be happy for someone, or "team", who has risen above mediocre. My husband and I were discussing this the other day. He has been very blessed in his profession and business, and his "friends" from back home with the exception of ONE refuse to come visit or even keep in touch. Yep, sure seems stupid, but human nature can be a "biatchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" sometimes, can't it?

QBREES9 01-29-2010 09:26 AM

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You hate what you don't understand

B_Dub_Saint 01-29-2010 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 200484)
They hate us because they fear us.

Ya damn skippy. Best Post of the thread. Plus rep for u buddy!!

SaintPauly 01-29-2010 10:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 200523)
God Bless you, Mississippi brothers and sisters. You have a lot to do with the Saints staying in New Orleans. Your training camp was off the charts. If I owned the Saints, there would be a Mississippi Appreciation day, complete with parade, meet & greet with players, and your own preseason game.

I appreciate that Mike, I really do. I know this much, when it comes to Southern people in general, say what you want, but when the chips are down, no matter how we feel about each other, we will fight against any and all comers, that wanna try. I guess it's a matter of pride in alot of ways, but also a matter of family, and the values we grew up with.

My Saints family is here, and I know who they are. We got each others backs, and that's what matters most on this. So, to the Saints first superbowl, I salute you all. Let's bring this home now.

darstep 01-29-2010 10:56 AM

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Hurting people hurt people. Every football fan, besides Saints and Colts fans, are crying in their milk. There are different levels of pain: Vikes, Cards, Jets, Bolts... have really short fuses right about now. Remember 2006 for us; now that hurt. We rushed the ball only 9 times against a Bears team that let this same Colts team run for nearly 200 yards on them in the SB. I was mad at Payton and everybody else I could think of. But I/we had the integrity to not rain on someone elses parade. Haters are everywhere - we just happen to be at the receiving end of most of it. Comes with the territory - we can take it.

Saint_LB 01-29-2010 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 200617)
when it comes to Southern people in general, say what you want, but when the chips are down, no matter how we feel about each other, we will fight against any and all comers, that wanna try.

We will pull together, sometimes it takes a little time and coaxing.

On that note, I will pass along this little tidbit of info that some of you younger guys may not have known.

Archie Manning, when he was between the ages of around 18 and 22, was public enemy numero uno in Louisiana. He and his Rebels put blemishes on a couple of LSU promising seasons, if I'm remembering this right...and was not so welcome by all Saint fans in those first few years. I think there are some who still haven't totally forgotten.

I will never forget the headline of the TP Sunday morning after Ole Miss burned the Tigers his Jr. year. It read,

"Yes, Virginia, there is a Superman...and he wears #18 for the Ole Miss Rebels".

Suffice it to say that the Tigers did get their revenge on Archie his Sr. year when they beat Archie and the Rebs soundly, somewhere around fitty. Archie had a cast on his whole left arm, but not making excuses.

NOLA54 01-29-2010 11:28 AM

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A lot of people want to see the Saints fail & stay in the gutter where they think we belong. They envy our success because their teams didn't make it and becaue they do not have the same connection we have with our Saints. When we won the NFC championship out of all the people I know around the country, only one person called me to congratulate us on our first Super Bowl. The Saints have earned this & we deserve to be proud.

Srgt. Hulka 01-29-2010 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 200523)
God Bless you, Mississippi brothers and sisters. You have a lot to do with the Saints staying in New Orleans. Your training camp was off the charts. If I owned the Saints, there would be a Mississippi Appreciation day, complete with parade, meet & greet with players, and your own preseason game.

I also like that idea. I'm going to go one step further. An appreciation tour through the whole state...New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Lake Charles, Alexandria, Shreveport and Monroe. It would reward the whole state for 43 years of patience and loyalty. What a great day it would be to see the Superbowl 44 champion New Orleans Saints parading through downtown Shreveport. It would surely pi** off a bunch of Cowboy fans up here! LOL

JoanieNTX 01-29-2010 01:49 PM

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I did hear from a West Monroe, LA cousin of mine that when she left her dad's Sunday night after the game "BIG" fireworks were goin' off, and you could hear the cheers! Now that is cool! For a long time when I lived there, I thought I was the only Saints fan in the town! ;)

I will say this...I got a nice text from a COWBOY'S fan right after the game, congratulating me! There are a few with class...just few and far between! ;)

skymike 01-29-2010 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 200640)
Archie Manning, when he was between the ages of around 18 and 22, was public enemy numero uno in Louisiana...

You know? I never realized him being a star for Ole Miss who torched LSU would make him disliked in La. Cant believe I never figured that out myself. Always a good story--thanks.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 200561)
Go a step further.
Gulf Coast Appreciation Week!

I like it, and as Strato says, dont forget SE Texas.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 200650)
...one step further. An appreciation tour through the whole state...New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Lake Charles, Alexandria, Shreveport and Monroe. --- What a great day it would be to see the Superbowl 44 champion New Orleans Saints parading through downtown Shreveport.

I would drive from Houston to Shreveport just to see that!
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 200692)
I did hear from a West Monroe, LA cousin of mine that when she left her dad's Sunday night after the game "BIG" fireworks were goin' off, and you could hear the cheers! Now that is cool! For a long time when I lived there, I thought I was the only Saints fan in the town!

I felt that way when I worked in Many, La. Its good to know there's Black & Gold in Monroe.

So I guess we all would love to see a Saints Appreciation Tour travel all over Lousiana, and neighboring Gulf Coast states. You know the Houston Astros do exactly that, and I believe they travel into Louisiana. They could sell all kinds of merchandise, and do various co-sponsorships, so the money would be there. You know, and I know that we'd all buy that stuff too--- we cant get enough!

In the early days of the NFL, they did exactly that--- traveled across the country shaking hands, & making new fans. Im for it.

breesfan27 01-29-2010 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 200645)
A lot of people want to see the Saints fail & stay in the gutter where they think we belong. They envy our success because their teams didn't make it and becaue they do not have the same connection we have with our Saints. When we won the NFC championship out of all the people I know around the country, only one person called me to congratulate us on our first Super Bowl. The Saints have earned this & we deserve to be proud.

Only three people who aren't Saints fans actually congratulated me. The rest told me, "I hope the Colts spank you in the Super Bowl." They hate us because they can't be us.

CantonLegend 01-29-2010 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 200572)
I talked to a Patriots fan (an old friend) yesterday and he says that Boston is all Black and Gold. So I would guess the AFC cities love us and the NFC cities have jealous hatred.

the pats biggest rival doesnt reside in their division.....the pats biggest rival is the colts....thats why they want us to win.....just like we would never root for the falcons

Quote:

Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 200779)
Only three people who aren't Saints fans actually congratulated me. The rest told me, "I hope the Colts spank you in the Super Bowl." They hate us because they can't be us.

thats how its been for me

one of my best friends hasnt talked to me in days because my team made it and his brett favre didnt make it

he said we got lucky.....i said yea, so what.....he said we sucked....i said, what does that say about your team?........he said the colts are going to kill us......i said id rather get a good ass kicking in miami than in new orleans

breesfan27 01-29-2010 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 200788)
the pats biggest rival doesnt reside in their division.....the pats biggest rival is the colts....thats why they want us to win.....just like we would never root for the falcons



thats how its been for me

one of my best friends hasnt talked to me in days because my team made it and his brett favre didnt make it

he said we got lucky.....i said yea, so what.....he said we sucked....i said, what does that say about your team?........he said the colts are going to kill us......i said id rather get a good ass kicking in miami than in new orleans

A friend of mine told me we don't deserve to be in the Super Bowl. I told her, you must not know sh*t about football then. She didn't like that too much.

Jabba 01-29-2010 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 200788)
i said id rather get a good ass kicking in miami than in new orleans

Nice!

The Vikings were LUCKY to be in that NFCCG with you guys. That said... your boys almost gave it away at the end. I don't share everyones hatred of Bret Favre... but he gave the game back to you guys at the end. But... IMO, he shouldn't have been in the game to begin with. Not with 5 turnovers.

I was rooting for them... but like I have posted before... because I think the Vikes would have been easier for the Colts to beat.

Your Saints are a shining example of what's possible while maintaining class, and respectability. Everyone should be proud.

9 more days!!


Jabba

SaintGup 01-30-2010 03:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 200580)
You hate what you don't understand

Can you explain that please. I don't understand what you mean... I hate it when that happens!

BOLTS4LIFE 02-01-2010 03:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 200479)
Ok, we haven't even played in our first freaking superbowl yet, and it seems that from the media, to fans of other teams, are all completely against us all the sudden? I don't get it. What the hell have we done to anybody? This team played their freaking butts off, to get where they are, and this is the thanks they get? None of our players have anything close to an ego, personal problems, or problems with the law, but people hate them? I don't get this at all. To me, this goes to show, that the entire country is going to Hell, and they are happy as can be, to be on the ride.

Talk all you want about the team I guess, if that's all you can do, to make yourself feel better about your team losing, but leave Katrina, and the thousands of dead bodies, and destroyed homes and lives OUT OF IT. Pardon my violent nature, but when I read stuff like I have been reading lately, IT MAKES ME VIOLENTLY ANGRY. All I want to do, is start laying people out fist to face, because they are too stupid to be breathing.

My entire family lives on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi. My cousin lost her house, her cars, all of her possessions, and almost her life, along with her two kids. The Gulf Coast still looks like an a-bomb hit it, for the most part, so to hear people relating their hate for a football team, to this kind of catastrophe is not only infuriating, it's un called for.

If these people have no better moral's, or even value for human life than this, then I can only blame their parents, for being such terrible people, that they allow their children to act this way. It's disgusting.

So I say this. Hate us. I officially don't care anymore. With your "kind", I will consider it a compliment to be hated by you, and anyone like you.

I wonder how many of these morons even know how many Colts players are from the Gulf Coast area, and how much suffering they went through themselves. Probably not. Most people with no class, stay that way, their entire lives.


EMBRACE THE HATE!!!

When fans of other teams hate you, that means you're successful!!!
When the media hates you, that means you're better than the Cowpies, Gnats, Patsies, etc.

TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT!!!! :cool:


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