Originally Posted by indybowl (Post 204734)

Yes, I will give the Saints all the credit in the world. They have the firepower to make the best defenses look foolish. I just get frustrated by not hearing any credit for what this Indianapolis D has become.
I only hear arguments that the Saints D is better. IMO its obvious that your D is better at creating turnovers, the #s show that, but the more well rounded D is the Colts.

Bottom line, I can't say as a football fan one team has an obvious advantage. Ill give my dues, #1 offense and a dangerous, turnover machine D.

Can a Saints fan give any credit to Indy? I haven't found many.

Originally Posted by indybowl (Post 204734)

Ye

Can a Saints fan give any credit to Indy? I haven't found many.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 204637)

I don't get it. They did pretty well against the Jets, but the Jets do not have a passing attack that would make Indy keep from putting 8 in the box. Neither does Baltimore, but here is the interesting fact- they let up 5 yards a carry to Ray Rice, and over 4 yards a carry to Baltimore. The only reason they did not gauge them is because Baltimore had to play catch up. The Ravens do not have a great passing attack either, and they still put yards together on the ground. I think our run game could be the difference. Anyway I have been saying this all week, but found the stats from the Ravens game interesting, because the media paints one picture, and I am not sure it is accurate.

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 204881)

Agree with everyone that stats don't mean anything. Jets and Ravens have great rushing "averages' because they can't throw. Yes, Indy held them below those "averages".
Someone should look to see if Balt and the Jets were over their passing "averages" in those games. Won't be me; I don't care.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 204895)

Well, I think I am pointing out to their fans that keep stating that the Colts stopped Balti and the Jets rushing attacks, but it really isn't accurate. Baltimore abandoned their run due to getting down, but they still had a good average for YPC, and Rice was averaging 5 YPC. That is an important stat in my mind. I disagree that stats do not matter- of course they do. They do not mean you will win or lose, but of course they matter- and the stat that matters most is points scored vs points against. If stats did not matter teams that were last in offensive and defensive stats would be in the super bowl.

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 204956)

I feel you, Bra-- I wasn't arguing