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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; In deference to the moderator, I thought to myself, "Self, why don't you start a new thread so we can argue about #2 some more." So I did. Aaron Brooks is being carried by the talented offensive supporting cast around ...

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Old 09-17-2003, 11:03 PM   #1
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In deference to the moderator, I thought to myself, "Self, why don't you start a new thread so we can argue about #2 some more."

So I did.

Aaron Brooks is being carried by the talented offensive supporting cast around him. He is Kordell Stewart with more talent at the skill positions.

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Old 09-18-2003, 06:27 AM   #2
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LOL!! I AGREE!!

Actually, Kordel has taken his team to a championship game. When did Brooks ever do that?!?! LOL
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I\'ll respond to this thread with something intelligent when someone posts something intelligent...good thing I have plenty of time to wait.

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Hopefully it does not take as much time as waiting for those Brooks leadership skills to surface on the playing field .
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Old 09-18-2003, 10:41 AM   #6
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Hey \"08\", I think the Carolina board misses you...better hurry back
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Old 09-18-2003, 11:41 AM   #7
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John Elway
Year Team Comp Att Comp% Yds Yd/Att TD INT Sacked-Yds Rating
1983 Den 123 259 47.5 1663 6.4 7 14 28- 218 54.9
1984 Den 214 380 56.3 2598 6.8 18 15 24- 158 76.8
1985 Den 327 605 54.0 3891 6.4 22 23 38- 307 70.2
John Elway rating for first 3 years: 67.3

Donovan McNabb
1999 Philadelphia Eagles 12 6 216 106 49.1 948 4.39 63 8 7 60.1
2000 Philadelphia Eagles 16 16 569 330 58.0 3365 5.91 70 21 13 77.8
2001 Philadelphia Eagles 16 16 493 285 57.8 3233 6.56 64 25 12 84.3
Donovan McNabb rating for first 3 years: 74.0

Roger Staubach
1973 DAL 14 179 286 62.6 2,428 8.49 23 15 94.6 46 250 5.4 3 5 18
1974 DAL 14 190 360 52.8 2,552 7.09 11 15 68.4 47 320 6.8 3 7 18
1975 DAL 13 198 348 56.9 2,666 7.66 17 16 78.5 55 316 5.7 4 5 24
Roger Staubach rating for first 3 years: 80.5

Aaron Brooks
2000 New Orleans Saints 8 5 194 113 58.2 1514 7.80 53 9 6 85.7
2001 New Orleans Saints 16 16 558 312 55.9 3832 6.87 63 26 22 76.4
2002 New Orleans Saints 16 16 528 283 53.6 3572 6.77 64 27 15 80.1
Aaron Brooks rating for first 3 years: 80.7


Someone say QB stats? What can be a better way to judge Aaron Brooks than to look back at the first 3 years of some other great quarterbacks and see how Aaron Brooks measures up. Would everyone agree that is fair? I\'m going to assume you agree.

If we listen to WhoDat and judge Staubach, Elway, and McNabb the same way he is judging Brooks then WhoDat would have said these QB\'s didn\'t fit the system. He can deny it, but it\'s true none -the -less. After all, we are using quarteback effiency ratings. Not yardage, or TD\'s or any of that other stuff. Right WhoDat?

Luckily for Staubach, Elway, and Mcnabb, their coaches knew it took time for a QB to develop. They weren\'t quick to have knee jerk reactions like WhoDat and cut the guys because they weren\'t perfect in their first 3 years.

I can\'t understand WhoDats logic for wanting to get rid of Brooks. Can any of you understand it? If you can, please, I beg you to explain it to me !!


WhoDat -- Can you explain to the good people here why Staubach, Elway, and McNabb aren\'t right for their system? I\'m all ears..............







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Old 09-18-2003, 12:16 PM   #8
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Billy --

I gave up on the QB rating argument last year. At the time they had their collective head so far up jakes azz there was no reasoning with \'em...still isn\'t, but you\'re welcome to try.
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saintsfan --

I know. WhoDat is quick to throw that QB effiency rating out there, but when it\'s proven that some great QB\'s had worse ratings than Brooks -- He doesn\'t want to hear that. You would think by listening to WhoDat that he has some quarterback training experience. I think that fantasy football has him screwed up.
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Old 09-18-2003, 01:21 PM   #10
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Comparing him to other QB\'s is unjustified and I have to call you out on this.


Especially McNabb. You can\'t compare them.

But if you say it\'s okay, then we\'ll start.
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