2010 NFL Draft

CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

No I am say he needs free space to work. In the line he was not that good. Stand him up were he can see the play better is best. He is an OLB that was tried at DE because he is tough. Ok he can do it but it is a waist of his talent. let him run from sideline to sideline and collect heads along the way. Thats were he is best. At his size and speed he is an excellent match up against TE. Blitz him and he will eat up any RB assigned to block him. He is going to be a terror. Williams could do wonders with the kid and Scott is a great mentor for him.

he would play behind fujita? curious that a player with that kind of upside would have to sit

why do you think he would sit the first year or 2? is it just because you think fujita is better? and if thats the case....why would we use a pick on him instead of upgrading another position instantly?

jeanpierre · 02-26-2010, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

he would play behind fujita? curious that a player with that kind of upside would have to sit

why do you think he would sit the first year or 2? is it just because you think fujita is better? and if thats the case....why would we use a pick on him instead of upgrading another position instantly?

Because good teams don't rebuild; they reload...

Danno · 02-26-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Are you serious?!?
Harper can't cover schiott; and he hits like a girl!
...

Think B.S. (Before Sharper)
PI Calls; Harper and Jason David chasing AFTER post patterns; his instincts are awful and he doesn't consistently "bring the wood"...
We need a Strong Safety and if Mays does fall, he'd be an improvement...

Strong Safety is our weakest link on defense...

Well well well, our "weakest link" was tendered as a 1st rounder. Maybe he's not as bad as you think?

CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 10:08 AM

one thing everybody needs to remember is that the saints scout ohio and other midwestern products very heavily

since sean payton came to the saints, they have drafted 5 players out of the state of ohio alone in only 4 years

the lowest pick out of ohio was antonio pittman who was a 4th rounder

if you want to predict where our draft picks are going to come from......look at prospects in or around ohio......think pennsylvania, michigan, indiana, and illinois......even north carolina has a few picks

also remember we have not picked any players from LSU or texas

exile · 02-26-2010, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

if you want to predict where our draft picks are going to come from......look at prospects in or around ohio......think pennsylvania, michigan, indiana, and illinois......even north carolina has a few picks

also remember we have not picked any players from LSU or texas

Actually I think he likes USC the most. With Tennessee close behind.

Honestly though. I don't think they really give a rat's azz where picks come from. As long as they can play ball.

How about USF?

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CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by exile

Actually I think he likes USC the most. With Tennessee close behind.

only 2 picks from USC and tennessee

Honestly though. I don't think they really give a rat's azz where picks come from. As long as they can play ball.

im sure he doesnt care......i was just saying that if you wanted to guess, its a good bet to think that at least one of our picks will come from ohio and it will be an early round pick

homerj07 · 02-26-2010, 10:48 AM

Loomis & SP will have their stuff together. Depending on what Def players fall they may even trade out of the first orund for som extra picks!!

BRSaintsFan · 02-26-2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

that is, IMO, the reason why BPA is a myth. if you pick a player that can fill any kind of need then it is not picking on BPA, it is pickin on need....its great to have a player be not only the BPA but also a player you need because it solves both problems. but there is no reason for us to pick a QB with our first round pick this year when we have bigger issues

Whether we call it BPA or not. Call it value drafting. Whatever method that yielded the Vikings Adrian Peterson and the Cardinals Larry Fitzgerald. Thats the method I like the Saints using in this draft. No reaching to fill a need. If there is a top 10 or top 15 non QB talent that falls to 32 at whatever position whether its a need or not, then you draft that player. If no one falls, then draft for one of your "needs". I still contend that at 32 your expectation of the player you are drafting is not to come in and start right away and make a dynamic impact.

Thanks for the explanations of the DTs. So would a fair assessment of Sedrick Ellis be that he is versatile enough to play either role?

CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

Thanks for the explanations of the DTs. So would a fair assessment of Sedrick Ellis be that he is versatile enough to play either role?

ellis can play both well simply because of his strength

hes very strong for only being 6'1" but he is much better when he is matched up 1 on 1 because it allows him to use his skills to get off the blocks

his skills arent used to their fullest if he is required to play nose tackle and his job is to take on blockers every play

exile · 02-26-2010, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

only 2 picks from USC and tennessee

First rounders since SP. USC (2), Tenn (1), OSU (1).

02-26-2010, 01:45 AM	#111
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 No I am say he needs free space to work. In the line he was not that good. Stand him up were he can see the play better is best. He is an OLB that was tried at DE because he is tough. Ok he can do it but it is a waist of his talent. let him run from sideline to sideline and collect heads along the way. Thats were he is best. At his size and speed he is an excellent match up against TE. Blitz him and he will eat up any RB assigned to block him. He is going to be a terror. Williams could do wonders with the kid and Scott is a great mentor for him. he would play behind fujita? curious that a player with that kind of upside would have to sit why do you think he would sit the first year or 2? is it just because you think fujita is better? and if thats the case....why would we use a pick on him instead of upgrading another position instantly?

02-26-2010, 07:15 AM	#112
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend he would play behind fujita? curious that a player with that kind of upside would have to sit why do you think he would sit the first year or 2? is it just because you think fujita is better? and if thats the case....why would we use a pick on him instead of upgrading another position instantly? Because good teams don't rebuild; they reload...

02-26-2010, 09:36 AM	#113
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Are you serious?!? Harper can't cover schiott; and he hits like a girl! ... Think B.S. (Before Sharper) PI Calls; Harper and Jason David chasing AFTER post patterns; his instincts are awful and he doesn't consistently "bring the wood"... We need a Strong Safety and if Mays does fall, he'd be an improvement... Strong Safety is our weakest link on defense... Well well well, our "weakest link" was tendered as a 1st rounder. Maybe he's not as bad as you think?

02-26-2010, 10:08 AM	#114
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft one thing everybody needs to remember is that the saints scout ohio and other midwestern products very heavily since sean payton came to the saints, they have drafted 5 players out of the state of ohio alone in only 4 years the lowest pick out of ohio was antonio pittman who was a 4th rounder if you want to predict where our draft picks are going to come from......look at prospects in or around ohio......think pennsylvania, michigan, indiana, and illinois......even north carolina has a few picks also remember we have not picked any players from LSU or texas
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02-26-2010, 10:45 AM	#116
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by exile Actually I think he likes USC the most. With Tennessee close behind. only 2 picks from USC and tennessee Honestly though. I don't think they really give a rat's azz where picks come from. As long as they can play ball. im sure he doesnt care......i was just saying that if you wanted to guess, its a good bet to think that at least one of our picks will come from ohio and it will be an early round pick

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02-26-2010, 10:48 AM	#117
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Loomis & SP will have their stuff together. Depending on what Def players fall they may even trade out of the first orund for som extra picks!!

02-26-2010, 10:51 AM	#118
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend that is, IMO, the reason why BPA is a myth. if you pick a player that can fill any kind of need then it is not picking on BPA, it is pickin on need....its great to have a player be not only the BPA but also a player you need because it solves both problems. but there is no reason for us to pick a QB with our first round pick this year when we have bigger issues Whether we call it BPA or not. Call it value drafting. Whatever method that yielded the Vikings Adrian Peterson and the Cardinals Larry Fitzgerald. Thats the method I like the Saints using in this draft. No reaching to fill a need. If there is a top 10 or top 15 non QB talent that falls to 32 at whatever position whether its a need or not, then you draft that player. If no one falls, then draft for one of your "needs". I still contend that at 32 your expectation of the player you are drafting is not to come in and start right away and make a dynamic impact. Thanks for the explanations of the DTs. So would a fair assessment of Sedrick Ellis be that he is versatile enough to play either role?

02-26-2010, 12:52 PM	#119
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan Thanks for the explanations of the DTs. So would a fair assessment of Sedrick Ellis be that he is versatile enough to play either role? ellis can play both well simply because of his strength hes very strong for only being 6'1" but he is much better when he is matched up 1 on 1 because it allows him to use his skills to get off the blocks his skills arent used to their fullest if he is required to play nose tackle and his job is to take on blockers every play

02-26-2010, 12:57 PM	#120
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend only 2 picks from USC and tennessee First rounders since SP. USC (2), Tenn (1), OSU (1).
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