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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre The good thing about drafting Jenkins, and with Chip Vaughn waiting for his chance; we could geaux CB and slide Jenkins or draft straight for Safety (which, if Mays is there) you do right away... SS ...

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Old 02-18-2010, 10:00 AM   #71
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
The good thing about drafting Jenkins, and with Chip Vaughn waiting for his chance; we could geaux CB and slide Jenkins or draft straight for Safety (which, if Mays is there) you do right away...

SS is important and can be an impact position...see Steelers, Pittsburgh, Defense, SS, Polamalu...

Dawan Landry comes to mind...
while i agree with this part i think its unreasonable to believe there is another troy polamalu in this draft or any other draft for that matter

guys like ed reed and troy polamalu come around once in a great while and its even more rare to have 2 talented safeties like that in the league at the same time

i like mays but many "experts" are losing faith in him. i dont know enough about him because i dont follow DBs like i should. I know hes big and fast and could definitly hit but is he also going to be a liability in pass coverage?

ive heard a lot of reports about him being the next coming of roy williams who couldnt cover to save his life but may hit harder than anybody else in the league

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Old 02-21-2010, 11:19 PM   #72
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ive heard a lot of reports about him (Mays) being the next coming of roy williams who couldnt cover to save his life but may hit harder than anybody else in the league
That would be an improvement over Harper...

If the Saints stay where they are it'll be either Ricky Sapp, DE Clemson; Jared Odrick, DE/DT Penn State; or,
Jerry Hughes, LB TCU...

I like Hughes motor...
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Old 02-21-2010, 11:23 PM   #73
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I'd liked to see Hughes in Black and Gold, seems like a DE/OLB tweener that GW would love to have on this team
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
That would be an improvement over Harper...

what gives you that impression?

roy williams has played 8 seasons while harper has played only 4 and has over 10 more tackles per season

harper already has as many sacks

harper has 6 fumbles forced compared to williams' 9

harper has averages 6.5 passes defensed per year compared to williams 5 per year

oh and roman harper has a super bowl ring.....roy williams has 0

i know stats arent everything but what about williams says hes better than harper? thats absurd to even think that
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:55 AM   #75
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I know it's not part of the draft per se, but what about signing Julius Peppers as a DE replacement/upgrade? We've lost players to other division teams over the years, would Peppers be worth pursuing?
Peppers is not that much of a upgrade. He will pull in bank this year and put us in a huge deth problem. I say start McCray and let Hargrove play both de and dt.
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:05 AM   #76
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I like Harper.

Remember that clip of...Roger Craig, I think it was...when he went back to the 49er huddle after being hit by Vaughn Johnson and said, "Who was that guy...I don't want to get hit by that guy again."?

I think alot of guys come away from hits by Harper saying, "Who is that guy?" Won't happen much longer, though...cause they're gonna know damn well who that guy is.

With that being said, there is enough room on this roster for JG, TP, MJ, DS, and RH, IMO.
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:31 PM   #77
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First of all I love the fact that we are picking 32nd. Because of the fact that the NFL Draft is three days long now, with the first round in Primetime, our 32nd pick is going to have added value this year. Teams in the early part of the second round are going to have to move up to get the players they want before the first day concludes, and I bet we get a TON of trade calls. (Think teams like Lions, Bucs, Redskins trying to jump in front of Rams for a stud that may have dropped due to depth.)

I have heard on multiple occasions now that this is one of the deepest and best drafts for talent in the past 6-7 years due to all of the juniors coming out ahead of a possible work stoppage in 2011.

It wouldn't suprise me in the least if the Saints trade back into the second round and pick up an extra pick this year. However, if DT Odrick or DE Graham or DT Brian Price is on the board at pick number 32, I think the Saints will send Tracy Porter to the podium with his track shoes on to hand in the card.

Also, you guys can forget about Cody. He is a classic NT and we play 4-3 as our base. Our Offense is pretty much set and our secondary is money. If we do anything other than DT, DE, OLB in some order Rounds 1-3 I would be HIGHLY suprised.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:20 PM   #78
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Also, you guys can forget about Cody. He is a classic NT and we play 4-3 as our base.
what about that says he couldnt play in a 4-3?

wouldnt his size help us against the run? wouldnt his ability to eat up blockers help us blitz?

didnt we run a 3-4 nearly the entire game against the colts in the super bowl?

i know vilma didnt like the 3-4....at least thats what he said

but i think its deeper than that.....i dont think he minds the 3-4....he just doesnt like the responsibilities he had as a ILB on the jets

he can play anything and he made the pro bowl by playing everything

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I think the Saints have been burned quite enough by players who can't control their appetite. Do I need to mention Jonathan Sullivan around here? LOL.
This is a great draft for DL. I mean great. So if Odrick, Price, or Graham are still on the board that will be the pick.
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I think the Saints have been burned quite enough by players who can't control their appetite. Do I need to mention Jonathan Sullivan around here? LOL.
This is a great draft for DL. I mean great. So if Odrick, Price, or Graham are still on the board that will be the pick.
1 story coming out of college ruins a guys draft status and "experts" look at it as laziness or immaturity

vontae davis started for the dolphins this season.....but most of the fans on this board didnt want him because he acted out or some other bs they came up with

cody is a talented player......he proved it in his college career and he proved it at the senior bowl even tho he was 15-20 lbs overweight

when he shows up at the combine and realizes that he cant play like that do you really think he is going to be that 15-20 lbs overweight?

i wouldnt be surprised if he is a little under 250 when he shows up at the combine......when you lose money, even if it is theoretical, you either crawl in a hole or work it out.......cody is a baller and he'll show up to play

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