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SaintPauly 02-17-2010 03:47 PM

UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Reggie is under contract, and from what alot of people have said is that they would rather trade fans, than lose Reggie. Ok, whatever. Now, if Reggie does get his money next year, then what do we do with Thomas? I for one, think that Pierre showed up during the NFCCG, and the Superbowl, more than Reggie did. 8 million to Bush, means, how much to Thomas? Is Thomas worth more than Bush?

jphebert_24 02-17-2010 03:49 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
I think he is worth as much Reggie. That guy is the hardest guy to tackle on the field and almost every time he touches the ball positive yards are the result.

PAY HIM!!!

breesfan27 02-17-2010 03:50 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
How does Peion Deion say it?? Oh yeah...

PAY DA MAN!!!!! :rolleyes:

dizzle88 02-17-2010 03:51 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jphebert_24 (Post 208867)
I think he is worth as much Reggie. That guy is the hardest guy to tackle on the field and almost every time he touches the ball positive yards are the result.

PAY HIM!!!

really agree, pierre thomas shows up in the most vital situations and brings a dimension to the offense that reggie can't always produce. i'm not sure what mike bells contract is, but i believe he is the odd man out here. Pierre thomas is too good to let go, and reggie has showed he is committed to running between the tackles this season and also lowering his shoulder. Combine that with the big play ability, we have a very good backfield

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 03:54 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
8 million a year? We can't franchise him, if we franchise Sharper, so a I'm assuming a long term contract is what we're looking at. So 8 million a year, for how long? This is what I'm saying. Keeping Reggie, COULD effect Thomas' contract. Or, will Thomas take less money than Bush, per year, in a long term deal?

dizzle88 02-17-2010 03:58 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
from recent stories i heard we will be structuring a contract for sharper, and not using the franchise tag, thats what ive heard from nfl network like

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 04:15 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
This is weird. Some of the lists I've seen had Thomas listed as a RFA, and some have him listed as a UFA. Either way, he needs to be signed.

skymike 02-17-2010 04:25 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
UFA? ohh... "unrestricted free agent" ok... good. You scared me.

I thought Pierre was gonna get into that tattoo fighting stuff.

subguy 02-17-2010 04:31 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
I think Pierre has a greater value to the Saints than Bush....Pierre almost always contributes positively, he is productive. We use Reggie as a diversion more than a back.

breesfan27 02-17-2010 04:33 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 208897)
UFA? ohh... "unrestricted free agent" ok... good. You scared me.

I thought Pierre was gonna get into that tattoo fighting stuff.

Haha! That's UFC. You get a +1 for making me spit water! :mrgreen:

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 04:53 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Hey, why not? Herschel Walker is doing it, I could see PT kicking some a$$.

breesfan27 02-17-2010 04:56 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
That's all fine and good. But let the Flying Frenchman finish out his footbal career with New Orleans before he pursues a MMA career

skymike 02-17-2010 04:56 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
no no no no!

he doesnt need to shave his head or get all those tattoos.

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 04:57 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Was j/k 27..... :)

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 04:58 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 208916)
no no no no!

he doesnt need to shave his head or get all those tattoos.

That's funny Mike. You just described me.... Maybe I should join MMA.....

breesfan27 02-17-2010 05:00 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 208917)
Was j/k 27..... :)

haha I know!

skymike 02-17-2010 05:07 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 208918)
That's funny Mike. You just described me.... Maybe I should join MMA.....

I'll fight you on a rollercoaster---lol.

messin with ya.

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 05:10 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 208922)
I'll fight you on a rollercoaster---lol.

messin with ya.

I forgot about that! Heh heh....

the-commish 02-17-2010 05:25 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 208889)
This is weird. Some of the lists I've seen had Thomas listed as a RFA, and some have him listed as a UFA. Either way, he needs to be signed.

PT is RFA; he has 4 years in the league; you need 6 years to be UFA.

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 05:27 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
But, the question is still valid. Will Bush's salary next year, have any effect on PT's future with the Saints?

poydras 02-17-2010 05:53 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 208866)
Reggie is under contract, and from what alot of people have said is that they would rather trade fans, than lose Reggie. Ok, whatever. Now, if Reggie does get his money next year, then what do we do with Thomas? I for one, think that Pierre showed up during the NFCCG, and the Superbowl, more than Reggie did. 8 million to Bush, means, how much to Thomas? Is Thomas worth more than Bush?

That's just not the way this thing works. Reggie has a contract that is inflated because he was our first draft pick and like all first draft picks, he's somewhat overpaid. For example, the rams picked some offensive tackle in the first round (2nd overall) and had to promise him 12 million a year to sign him. Do they now go back and overpay everyone on the team? The answer of course, is no. We need to pay Pierre Thomas what he's worth but what we pay Reggie has nothing to do with it.

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 05:58 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poydras (Post 208933)
That's just not the way this thing works. Reggie has a contract that is inflated because he was our first draft pick and like all first draft picks, he's somewhat overpaid. For example, the rams picked some offensive tackle in the first round (2nd overall) and had to promise him 12 million a year to sign him. Do they now go back and overpay everyone on the team? The answer of course, is no. We need to pay Pierre Thomas what he's worth but what we pay Reggie has nothing to do with it.

I understand your point here, but in this situation it's different, because number one, they both play the same position. Number two, Thomas looked good in the superbowl, so other teams are going to be checking him out, as well as Bush. It could be a factor.

Also it's not just what the Saints offer him, as a RFA, we would have to match other offers, from other teams. This could get really sticky, really fast.

poydras 02-17-2010 06:07 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 208934)
I understand your point here, but in this situation it's different, because number one, they both play the same position. Number two, Thomas looked good in the superbowl, so other teams are going to be checking him out, as well as Bush. It could be a factor.

Also it's not just what the Saints offer him, as a RFA, we would have to match other offers, from other teams. This could get really sticky, really fast.

The person in my example is Jason Smith, currently listed as 3rd team. Do they now go back and pay the four players in front of him 12 million also?

The point is, pay Pierre what he's worth but what Reggie is being paid is irrelevant.

SaintPauly 02-17-2010 10:51 PM

Re: UFA Pierre Thomas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poydras (Post 208936)
The person in my example is Jason Smith, currently listed as 3rd team. Do they now go back and pay the four players in front of him 12 million also?

The point is, pay Pierre what he's worth but what Reggie is being paid is irrelevant.

Ok, my point is production. And rookie contracts withstanding, who produces more, consistantly for the Saints, Reggie, or PT? In my opinion, Reggie restructures, and stays with the team. Now, don't you think that PT is going to look at his financial numbers, to determine how much he signs for with the Saints? I'm not talking about the business side of things, I'm talking about the personal self worth side of things.

It's the same difference as the Tom Brady, Payton Manning contracts. Are Reggie, and PT, in the same status as these two? No, that's not what I'm saying, but I believe that the numbers of the guy who gets his contract first is going to effect, what the other thinks he deserves. Same situation, except they are on different teams.

If Reggie gets 4 million, then PT is going to want the same, or damn close. As well he should. The question I guess that I'm proposing is, do we risk losing PT, to satisfy Reggie? Because if PT can get more money elsewhere, than we are willing to pay, then he's going to leave.


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