Owners pass Overtime rule proposal

Attached Thumbnails · 03-23-2010, 02:43 PM

Just seen on ESPN the NFL owners have passed the playoff overtime rule proposal.

The rule would call for a team to score a TD in order to win in overtime

The team that wins the coin toss would still have an opportunity to win on their first possession but they would have to score a TD and not just a FG in order to win

They cited specific instances of kickers being able to kick farther and it gives the coin toss winner an unfair advantage.

The proposal passed 28-4. As it is written, the rules change applies just for the postseason, but the owners also decided to discuss adopting the changes for the regular season at their next meeting, in May in Dallas.

The Buffalo Bills, Minnesota Vikings, Baltimore Ravens and Cincinnati Bengals voted against the proposal.

The competition committee recommended the change in a vote of 6-2, and commissioner Roger Goodell supported the plan. He was able to secure enough votes to get the proposal passed on Tuesday, a day before the expected Wednesday vote.

The reason for the change was the increased accuracy of kickers since 1993. In 1994, the NFL moved kickoffs from the 35 to the 30, which created better field position for the teams that won the coin toss and received the kickoffs.

Statistics examined by the committee showed that since 1994, teams winning the coin toss win the game 59.8 percent of the time. The team that loses the toss wins the game 38.5 percent in that 15-year span.

"We've had this discussion for a number of years," competition committee co-chairman Rich McKay said. "We feel this year's proposal gave us the opportunity to [install] a pretty good rule. Statistically we felt it needed to be changed. It wasn't creating the fairest result as far as field goal accuracy, field goal distance and drive starts."

McKay said one of the selling points was it maintained the sudden death aspect of overtime.

This is not a one-year experiment. The vote is a permanent change to the overtime rule, which was established in 1974 to minimize the number of games ending in ties.

McKay didn't rule out the possibility of the change being implemented in time for the 2010 regular season, but he doubted discussion would result in such quick movement.

Both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball once during the extra period, unless the team that receives the opening kickoff scores a touchdown on its initial possession, in which case it is the winner.
If the team that possesses the ball first scores a field goal on its initial possession, the other team shall have the opportunity to possess the ball. If [that team] scores a touchdown on its possession, it is the winner. If the score is tied after [both teams have a] possession, the team next scoring by any method shall be the winner.
If the score is tied at the end of a 15-minute overtime period, or if [the overtime period's] initial possession has not ended, another overtime period will begin, and play will continue until a score is made, regardless of how many 15-minute periods are necessary.

Rules proposal passes on 28-4 vote

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 02:45 PM

NFL changes overtime for playoff games

By BARRY WILNER

The Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. — The NFL has changed its overtime rules for playoff games.

Starting next season, if a team wins the coin toss and then kicks a field goal, the other team gets the ball.

If the game is still tied after that, play will continue under the current sudden-death rules. Should the team winning the toss immediately score a touchdown, then the game is over.

Team owners voted 28-4 on Tuesday in favor of the proposal at the NFL meetings. The new rule applies only for postseason games.

NFL changes overtime for playoff games | ajc.com

SmashMouth · 03-23-2010, 03:06 PM

NFL owners pass playoff OT rules modification - ESPN

The direct results of our beloved Saints beating the Viqueens. Guess we'll have to beat down teams prior to the expiry of regulation.

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 03:06 PM

i really believe this is an unfair advantage for the team that doesnt win the coin toss

the team that wins the toss is encouraged to go for it on 4th down due to the new rules.....but the risk of going for it on 4th down is much greater now because even tho they cant win it with a FG, the 2nd team can win it with a fg if they choose to do so

just like in college, the team that wins usually wants to go 2nd because they know if they have to score a TD or score a FG......now the team that loses the coin toss has the knowledge that they only have to kick a FG to win or tie to extend the game

UK_WhoDat · 03-23-2010, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

........the rule would call for a team to score a TD in order to win in overtime........

For the quicker readers, to win on the 1st possession.
Usual Sudden death rules apply if both teams are tied after their 1st possessions.

So...... if the team receiving the kick-off fumbles to the kicking team.
And...... then the team regaining that possession can win on a FG?

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

For the quicker readers, to win on the 1st possession.
Usual Sudden death rules apply if both teams are tied after their 1st possessions.

So...... if the team receiving the kick-off fumbles to the kicking team.
And...... then the team regaining that possession can win on a FG?

i just dont like that the other team can win with a FG but the original team has to play for a TD

UK_WhoDat · 03-23-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i really believe this is an unfair advantage for the team that doesnt win the coin toss

the team that wins the toss is encouraged to go for it on 4th down due to the new rules.....but the risk of going for it on 4th down is much greater now because even tho they cant win it with a FG, the 2nd team can win it with a fg if they choose to do so.....

You are trying to addle our brains CantonLegend.
If you don't win the toss, you cannot decide to go 1st or 2nd. So any advantage is with the team who wins the toss.

Now if you said, unfair advantage to the team who receives 1st, I still would not agree with you.

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

You are trying to addle our brains CantonLegend.
If you don't win the toss, you cannot decide to go 1st or 2nd. So any advantage is with the team who wins the toss.

Now if you said, unfair advantage to the team who receives 1st, I still would not agree with you.

obviously the team that wins has the bigger advantage

but there is an advantage for the other team to know that they only have to kick a FG to win or tie

the original team has to score a TD or they give up the advantage given to them by the coin toss

UK_WhoDat · 03-23-2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

......but there is an advantage for the other team to know that they only have to kick a FG to win or tie........

only if the 1st team did not get a TD.

Oooooo just had a thought. You can't win on a FG but you can on a safety!
I am the team receiving the kick. Under CantonLegend mode, I am scared to get a FG. I go for it on 4th down, fail, BUT leave the ball in the opponents 10. ...... Under pressure......... (singing David Bowie here)

exile · 03-23-2010, 03:37 PM

Sounds like a WWE rule. Not a rule for a real sporting event. Maybe one of the QBs can get hit with a chair before the OT kickoff.

03-23-2010, 02:43 PM	#1
Threaded by CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2 Rating: (0 votes - average) Just seen on ESPN the NFL owners have passed the playoff overtime rule proposal. The rule would call for a team to score a TD in order to win in overtime The team that wins the coin toss would still have an opportunity to win on their first possession but they would have to score a TD and not just a FG in order to win They cited specific instances of kickers being able to kick farther and it gives the coin toss winner an unfair advantage. The proposal passed 28-4. As it is written, the rules change applies just for the postseason, but the owners also decided to discuss adopting the changes for the regular season at their next meeting, in May in Dallas. The Buffalo Bills, Minnesota Vikings, Baltimore Ravens and Cincinnati Bengals voted against the proposal. The competition committee recommended the change in a vote of 6-2, and commissioner Roger Goodell supported the plan. He was able to secure enough votes to get the proposal passed on Tuesday, a day before the expected Wednesday vote. The reason for the change was the increased accuracy of kickers since 1993. In 1994, the NFL moved kickoffs from the 35 to the 30, which created better field position for the teams that won the coin toss and received the kickoffs. Statistics examined by the committee showed that since 1994, teams winning the coin toss win the game 59.8 percent of the time. The team that loses the toss wins the game 38.5 percent in that 15-year span. "We've had this discussion for a number of years," competition committee co-chairman Rich McKay said. "We feel this year's proposal gave us the opportunity to [install] a pretty good rule. Statistically we felt it needed to be changed. It wasn't creating the fairest result as far as field goal accuracy, field goal distance and drive starts." McKay said one of the selling points was it maintained the sudden death aspect of overtime. This is not a one-year experiment. The vote is a permanent change to the overtime rule, which was established in 1974 to minimize the number of games ending in ties. McKay didn't rule out the possibility of the change being implemented in time for the 2010 regular season, but he doubted discussion would result in such quick movement. Both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball once during the extra period, unless the team that receives the opening kickoff scores a touchdown on its initial possession, in which case it is the winner. If the team that possesses the ball first scores a field goal on its initial possession, the other team shall have the opportunity to possess the ball. If [that team] scores a touchdown on its possession, it is the winner. If the score is tied after [both teams have a] possession, the team next scoring by any method shall be the winner. If the score is tied at the end of a 15-minute overtime period, or if [the overtime period's] initial possession has not ended, another overtime period will begin, and play will continue until a score is made, regardless of how many 15-minute periods are necessary. Rules proposal passes on 28-4 vote Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Halo; 03-23-2010 at 04:29 PM.. Reason: Good Job Canton!
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03-23-2010, 02:45 PM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal NFL changes overtime for playoff games By BARRY WILNER The Associated Press ORLANDO, Fla. — The NFL has changed its overtime rules for playoff games. Starting next season, if a team wins the coin toss and then kicks a field goal, the other team gets the ball. If the game is still tied after that, play will continue under the current sudden-death rules. Should the team winning the toss immediately score a touchdown, then the game is over. Team owners voted 28-4 on Tuesday in favor of the proposal at the NFL meetings. The new rule applies only for postseason games. NFL changes overtime for playoff games \| ajc.com

03-23-2010, 03:06 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal NFL owners pass playoff OT rules modification - ESPN The direct results of our beloved Saints beating the Viqueens. Guess we'll have to beat down teams prior to the expiry of regulation.

03-23-2010, 03:06 PM	#4
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal i really believe this is an unfair advantage for the team that doesnt win the coin toss the team that wins the toss is encouraged to go for it on 4th down due to the new rules.....but the risk of going for it on 4th down is much greater now because even tho they cant win it with a FG, the 2nd team can win it with a fg if they choose to do so just like in college, the team that wins usually wants to go 2nd because they know if they have to score a TD or score a FG......now the team that loses the coin toss has the knowledge that they only have to kick a FG to win or tie to extend the game
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-23-2010, 03:11 PM	#5
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by CantonLegend ........the rule would call for a team to score a TD in order to win in overtime........ For the quicker readers, to win on the 1st possession. Usual Sudden death rules apply if both teams are tied after their 1st possessions. So...... if the team receiving the kick-off fumbles to the kicking team. And...... then the team regaining that possession can win on a FG?

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03-23-2010, 03:14 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat For the quicker readers, to win on the 1st possession. Usual Sudden death rules apply if both teams are tied after their 1st possessions. So...... if the team receiving the kick-off fumbles to the kicking team. And...... then the team regaining that possession can win on a FG? i just dont like that the other team can win with a FG but the original team has to play for a TD

03-23-2010, 03:17 PM	#7
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by CantonLegend i really believe this is an unfair advantage for the team that doesnt win the coin toss the team that wins the toss is encouraged to go for it on 4th down due to the new rules.....but the risk of going for it on 4th down is much greater now because even tho they cant win it with a FG, the 2nd team can win it with a fg if they choose to do so..... You are trying to addle our brains CantonLegend. If you don't win the toss, you cannot decide to go 1st or 2nd. So any advantage is with the team who wins the toss. Now if you said, unfair advantage to the team who receives 1st, I still would not agree with you.

03-23-2010, 03:19 PM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat You are trying to addle our brains CantonLegend. If you don't win the toss, you cannot decide to go 1st or 2nd. So any advantage is with the team who wins the toss. Now if you said, unfair advantage to the team who receives 1st, I still would not agree with you. obviously the team that wins has the bigger advantage but there is an advantage for the other team to know that they only have to kick a FG to win or tie the original team has to score a TD or they give up the advantage given to them by the coin toss

03-23-2010, 03:33 PM	#9
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by CantonLegend ......but there is an advantage for the other team to know that they only have to kick a FG to win or tie........ only if the 1st team did not get a TD. Oooooo just had a thought. You can't win on a FG but you can on a safety! I am the team receiving the kick. Under CantonLegend mode, I am scared to get a FG. I go for it on 4th down, fail, BUT leave the ball in the opponents 10. ...... Under pressure......... (singing David Bowie here)

03-23-2010, 03:37 PM	#10
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Sounds like a WWE rule. Not a rule for a real sporting event. Maybe one of the QBs can get hit with a chair before the OT kickoff.
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