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TheOriginalSwampdog 09-25-2003 10:26 AM

Okie, doke. Let's get all the pleasantries out of the way. Nice to be back, yada, yada, yada.

Okay, down to business:

Saints record this year-3-13.

I love the boys, but until they get rid of Haz and his bumbling staff, we will NEVER be in the hunt for anything more than a losing season. This team has talent and with the right coaching staff, COULD go far. First, get a head coach. Then, some assistants, Then, draft Eli Manning. Then, go get Bobby Taylor or Charles Woodson. Draft some lb's and the S from Kentucky. Oh yeah, trade Brooks for some picks. Bing, bang, boom. Saints are back in the hunt. Questions?

BillyCarpenter1 09-25-2003 10:30 AM

Why would you want to draft anyone with the last name Manning. Between the 3 of them, they have never won a game that meant anything.

[Edited on 25/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

TheOriginalSwampdog 09-25-2003 10:36 AM

They\'ve won berths into the probowl and that\'s more than I can say for moron Brooks. Speaking of the Mannings, they ALL have one thing that rock head Brooks doesn\'t. A BRAIN! Brooks had one of the lowest scores on the Wonderlic test coming out of the draft. Not so for ANY of the Mannings. You CAN\'T have a idiot running the WCO. You have to have some kind of smarts and Brooks doesn\'t have it. PERIOD!

BillyCarpenter1 09-25-2003 10:40 AM

So you agree don\'t agree that Peyton is a choke artist, that has never won a game that meant anything??? I think if Peyton doesn\'t win a playoff game this year that he should retire. How many chances does this chump get?

TheOriginalSwampdog 09-25-2003 10:49 AM

Choke artist? You want to talk choke artist, why don\'t you check out old Brooksie\'s stats the last four games of the last two seasons. I wouldn\'t say Brooks is some god send. How many times has Peyton BEEN to the playoffs to Brooks? How many probowls has Manning been to Brooks? Brooks couldn\'t hold a candle to Manning as far as being a complete qb. I really don\'t think you want to compare the stats of Manning to Brooks. It\'s not even a competition.

BillyCarpenter1 09-25-2003 10:57 AM

You still didn\'t answer my question DOG. Do you think Peyton is a choke artist. Just take a deep breath and gather your composure. Feel better? Now answer the question.

BillyCarpenter1 09-25-2003 11:03 AM

Peyton Manning IND 3 97 32.3 62 63.9 600 194.7 42 3 3 2 16 78.5

Aaron Brooks NO 3 97 32.3 62 63.9 648 203.3 42 4 1 7 38 92.6

Peyton has thrown as many INT\'s as touchdowns. It\'s amazing that the Colts have won in spite of him....

saintfan 09-25-2003 11:04 AM

In the spirit of Whodat, here are some numbers for you DOG:


Now match those three numbers to this \"Wonderlic\" test nonsense and lets see what you get.

17 -- Brooks
20 -- Michael Vick
12 -- Donovan McNabb


Furthermore, Dan Marino Scored a 16!

yessir. I think you know what to do with your wonderlic comment

TheOriginalSwampdog 09-25-2003 11:16 AM

I think the Colts are choke artists, not Manning. By the way, Vick is NOT the sharpest tool in the shead and the Wonderlic proves that. I\'m shocked at the Marino score and I\'d like to see proof of that. Mannings has thrown 141 carrear tds, to 108 ints. If you think he sucks so bad, read this: Please refer to his PRO CAREER and you\' ll see just how ignorant you guys are being.

Career Highlights

Full name is Peyton Williams Manning ... born in New Orleans, La ... attended Isidore Newman High School ... helped team to 34-5 record during three seasons as starter ... named Gatorade Circle of Champions National Player-of-the-Year and Columbus (Ohio) Touchdown Club National Offensive Player-of-the-Year as senior ... named 1997 NCAA Top VIII for Outstanding Senior Student-Athlete in Athletics, Academics and Community Service ... named one of 10 outstanding young Americans by the United States Junior Chamber of Commerce on January 9, 1999, in Washington D.C ... in 2000, the Indianapolis Business Journal named Manning one of the area\'s Top 40 leaders under 40 years of age and Nuvo Magazine named Manning the Best Professional Athlete in Indianapolis ... has been honorary chairman of Indiana CASA\'s annual fund drive and has contributed a flag football game the last four years pitting \"Peyton\'s Pals\", a team of CASA foster children, against another team of youth from Indianapolis area community centers ... formed the PeyBack Foundation in 1999 to promote the future success of disadvantaged youth by helping programs that provide the necessary leadership and growth opportunities for youth at risk ... as the foundation\'s first major event, Peyton launched the inaugural PeyBack Classic in 2000, enabling five inner-city Indianapolis high school football teams to play for the first time in the RCA Dome ... the school\'s struggling athletic programs received $50,000 in proceeds in 2000 and $70,000 from the 2001 PeyBack Classic ... in 2002, the PeyBack Foundation gave more than $100,000 to community agencies in Indiana, Tennessee and New Orleans ... the PeyBack Foundation makes sizable donations to various organizations in Indiana, Tennessee and Louisiana throughout the year ... in 2001, the foundation hosted a Christmas celebration for 225 Indianapolis inner-city children at a local restaurant ... the foundation distributed more than 300 footballs and basketballs to various organizations for Christmas ... in 2000, the foundation played Santa to about 1,500 children who were in foster care or in residential treatment facilities during the holidays ... as a special Christmas present, children at the Marion County\'s Children\'s Guardian Home, Pleasant Run Children\'s Home and residential facilities operated by Children\'s Bureau received a football or basketball from the PeyBack Foundation ... the foundation committed $25,000 to a restoration project for the Dryades Street YMCA in New Orleans in 2001 ... Peyton participated in the 2001 Marsh Holiday Handoff for Hunger community-based food drive that benefited local food pantries ... the program generated more than 245,000 pounds of food for those in need ... each Indiana school that participated entered a drawing to win a visit from Peyton and tickets to a Colts game ... Peyton, in conjunction with Marsh, holds an annual event at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to raise money for the PeyBack Foundation ... the Marsh Kids\' Club Walk, \"Peyton\'s Rally at Gasoline Alley,\" gives kids an opportunity to walk around the track with Peyton ... Peyton was named to the NCAA Foundation Board of Directors in 2000, and is its youngest-ever member and first active professional athlete ... in addition to his board responsibilities, Peyton has become the national spokesperson for the NCAA\'s major character education program to be instituted in elementary schools across the nation ... Peyton makes numerous appearances each year to promote the NCAA\'s Stay in Bounds program, a character development initiative committed to teaching citizenship through sports and the acceptance of a set of guiding principles of sportsmanship ... along with his father, Archie, he is actively involved with the Play it Smart organization, a school-based program funded by the National Football Foundation ... the program seeks to use the sport experience as a vehicle to enhance the academic, athletic, career and personal development of high school student-athletes...Manning was honored in May, 2002 as the male recipient of the Henry P. Iba Citizen Athlete Award, given annually to America\'s premier male and female athletes who excelled in their sport and through their actions have helped others ... Manning was selected the 2001 Walter Payton/Indianapolis Colts NFL Man-of-the-Year for participation in community affairs ... he was honored by his teammates as the 2001 Ed Block Courage Award nominee and for the Byron \"Whizzer\" White Humanitarian Award, honors for courageous play and service to team, community and country ... through his PeyBack Foundation, Manning established the PeyBack Award in 2002 to recognize an individual associated with football who achieved a high level of success in the sport and distinguished himself through philanthropic deeds, and the first recipient was Dallas Cowboys Hall-of-Fame quarterback Roger Staubach ... Manning was awarded the 2001 American Dream award by the Hudson Institute for his work with the PeyBack Foundation ... he helped promote the I.S.T.E.P. exam for the Indiana Department of Education ... a portion of the Manning Passing Academy is donated to Special Olympics of Louisiana and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes ... along with St. Vincent Hospitals and Health Services in Indianapolis, he helped create \"Peyton\'s Playbook,\" a kid\'s guide to healthy living and the importance of making the right decisions ... his father, Archie, was an All-America choice at Ole Miss in 1969 and 1970, and had a 14-year NFL career with New Orleans (1971-82), Houston (1982-83) and Minnesota (1983-84) ... Manning and his wife, Ashley, reside in Indianapolis, Ind.

Manning, a two-time Pro Bowler, produced totals in his first 4 seasons that rank among the best in the NFL ... he is the only player in NFL history with 3,000 passing yards in each of his 1st 4 seasons and the only Colts QB with 4 consecutive 3,000+ yards seasons ... he owns 4 of the 10 3,000+ passing seasons in Colts history (3, John Unitas; 3, Bert Jones) ... Manning (16,418) joined Unitas (39,768) and Jones (17,663) as only Colts QBs to throw for 15,000+ yards ... Manning is the only QB in NFL history to throw for 12,000+ yards in 1st 3 seasons ... in 2000, he became the 5th QB in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in consecutive seasons (Brett Favre, 1998-99; Dan Fouts, 1979-81; Dan Marino, 1984-86; Warren Moon, 1990-91 and 1994-95), while joining Marino and Fouts in 2001 as the only QBs to do it 3 consecutive seasons ... his 3 career 4,000+ seasons are tied with Fouts and Favre for 3rd-most in NFL history (6, Marino, 4, Moon), while Steve Young (2), Drew Bledsoe (2) and Kurt Warner (2) are the only other players with multiple 4,000+ seasons ... Manning\'s 85.1 career rating entering the 2002 season ranks 6th-best in NFL history (96.8, Young; 92.3, Joe Montana; 86.8, Favre; 86.6, Otto Graham; 86.4, Marino) ... Manning has started the last 64 games ... his 64-game start streak is 2nd-longest in the NFL (157, Favre) ... Unitas (92, 1958-65) owns the longest starting streak in Colts history, while Jones (46, 1974-77) is 3rd ... he has produced 32 career starting wins, third-most in Colts history (116, Unitas; 46, Jones) ... Manning\'s starting record is 32-32 despite starting his career 3-13 as a rookie in 1998 ... his 23 wins as a starter from 1999-2000 led the NFL ... Manning has won 10+ games in a season twice (1999, 2000), 3rd among Colts QBs (Unitas, 3; Jones, 3) ... Manning has 111 touchdown passes in 64 games and in 2001 became the 88th QB in NFL history to reach 100 career TD passes ... he reached the milestone in his 56th career game (the fastest streak in terms of games played to reach 100 touchdown passes is 44 by Marino; the second-fastest streak is 53 games by Unitas; the fourth-fastest now is 62 games by Favre) ... here is how Manning would stand in reaching 100 career TD passes with all other QBs taken with the first overall pick in the NFL Draft since 1970: 69 games, Bledsoe (1993 draft); 78, Steve Bartkowski (1975); 83, John Elway (1983); 91, Jeff George (1990); 93, Vinny Testaverde (1986); 100, Troy Aikman (1989), 101, Terry Bradshaw (1970); 103, Jim Plunkett (1971) ... Manning has ranked among the NFL leaders in attempts, completions, yards and TDs over the past four seasons...he leads the NFL with 16,418 passing yards and 111 TDs from 1998-2001 (Favre is second in both categories with 16,036 yards and 111 scores) ... he became the 96th NFL QB to pass for 15,000 yards with effort at Baltimore 12/2/01, his 59th career game (only Marino (56) reached that plateau in fewer games) ... Manning owns the 4 best seasonal passing yardage seasons in Colts history (4,413, 2000; 4,135, 1999; 4,131, 2001; 3,739, 1998) ... he also owns the 4 best seasonal passing marks for attempts (575, 1998; 571, 2000; 547, 2001; 533, 1999), completions (357, 2000; 343, 2001; 331, 1999; 326, 1998;) and most games with TD pass (15, 1998; 15, 2000; 14, 1999; 14, 2001) ... he is the 1st Colts QB to throw for 4 TD passes twice in a season (2000) since Unitas in 1966 ... Manning has 20+ comp. in 41 of 64 career games, ranking first in Colts history ahead of Unitas (33) in career 20+ comp. games ... he has TD passes in 58 of 64 career games to rank 3rd in Colts history in games with TD passes (144 in 206 career games, Unitas; 68 in 98 career games, Jones) ... Manning has had 50+ comp. pct. games in 60 of 64 games, 55+ comp. pct. games 51 times and 60+ comp. pct. games 37 times ... the Colts have scored 30+ points 20 times under his direction ... he has produced 100+ receivers 37 times in 64 games (seven different receivers), while 12 Colts QBs and 11 different receivers from 1990-97 were only able to produce 23 such performances, a span of 128 games ... Manning\'s career Red Zone TD:Int ratio is 63:9 ... he has taken every snap in 58 of 64 games ... he took all 982 of the team\'s snaps in 1998 and 958 of the team\'s 979 snaps in 1999 for a 2-season total of 1,940 of 1,961 plays (he took 1,590 cons. to open career) ... he took 1,205 cons. snaps in 19 regular season games before his streak ended at New England 9/30/01 (QB-Mark Rypien saw action for 16 plays at NE 9/30, for 2 plays vs. NE 10/21, for 1 play vs. Miami 11/11 and for 3 plays vs. SF 11/25, giving Manning 1,003 of the team\'s 1,025 snaps) ... Manning has taken 3,969 of 4,012 possible snaps from 1998-2001 ... the Colts have had 4 cons. seasons of 5,000+ net yards offense (5,116, 1998; 5,726, 1999; 6,141, 2000; 5,955, 2001), finishing with a seasonal-record 6,141 net yards in 2000, the only time in club history the team has surpassed 6,000 net yards ... Manning has engineered 4 of the 9 5,000+ seasons in club history (6,141, 2000; 5,955, 2001; 5,726, 1999; 5,236, 1976; 5,206, 1980; 5,116, 1998; 5,108, 1983; 5,008, 1967; 5,006, 1985) ... Manning has passed for 200+ yards in 48 of 64 career games, 250+ 33 times, 300+ 16 times, 350+ 6 times and 400+ 3 times ... behind Manning, the offense has amassed 300+ net yards 51 times in 64 games, 350+ 32 times and 400+ 14 times ... WR-Marvin Harrison has been on the receiving end of 384 passes from Manning ... in 60 games, Manning and Harrison have hooked up for 5,337 yards and 47 touchdowns ... Harrison\'s 47 hookups with Manning rank as the 2nd-most active TD duos in the NFL (57, Favre to WR-Antonio Freeman, GB; 37, QB-Mark Brunell to WR-Jimmy Smith, Jax.; 31, QB-Jeff Garcia to WR-Terrell Owens, SF) and rank 2nd-most in club history by a QB/receiver tandem (63, Unitas to Berry) ... the duo has hooked up 8 times for 50+ TDs ... Harrison held 13.1 yds/rec. avg. on 14 TDs (14-183) 1996-97 prior to Manning, but holds 26.0 yds/rec. avg. on 47 TDs (47-1,223) 1998-present with Manning ... Harrison has totaled 25 of his 27 career 100+ games with Manning at QB ... Manning has 9 career fourth-quarter comeback wins, including a club seasonal record 6 in 1999 ... his 9 4th-qtr. comeback wins rank 2nd in club history (31, Unitas) ... Manning has 16 career 100+ rating games (the club is 12-4) ... he has recorded 16 300+-yard efforts, ranking 2nd in Colts history (26, Unitas) ... Manning has 14 career 50+-yard TD passes ... he has hit passes to 7 different players 10 times in his career and with 8 different players twice (11/8/98, at Miami; 11/29/98, at Baltimore) ... he was 23-29-421, 4 TDs/2 ints, vs. Buffalo 9/23/01 ... the 421 yards marked Manning\'s 3rd career 400+ passing game (440, vs. Jax. 9/25/00; 404, at San Diego 9/26/99) ... Manning is the only player in club history to throw for 400+ yards in multiple games ... the four TDs vs. Buffalo 9/23/01 marked his 3rd career 4-TD outing (vs. Jax. 9/25/00; vs. Minn. 12/24/00)...Manning ranks among the NFL\'s top 10 career passing yardage leaders and all quarterbacks taken as the first pick in the NFL Draft since 1970, Manning is the leader in starts (64), completions (1,357) and yards (16,418), while ranking second in attempts (2,379, Drew Bledsoe, NE, 1993-96) and touchdowns (142, Dan Marino, Mia., 1983-86), and second in completion percentage (63.1, Joe Montana, SF, 1979-82)....Manning has earned Pro Bowl honors in two of his four seasons, joining Unitas, Earl Morrall, Bert Jones and Jim Harbaugh as Colts Pro Bowl quarterbacks ... Manning ranks first in Colts history with 16 career 40+ attempt games...he has never attempted fewer than 20 passes in a game...Manning is the only Colts QBs to ever start 16 games in a season four times...Manning is the only QB in Colts history to take every snap for the duration of an entire season and he has done it three times

Was 326-575-3,739, 26 TDs/28 ints., 71.2 rating to cap the finest rookie season in NFL history...Manning set Colts and NFL rookie records in completions, attempts, yards, touchdowns and cons. games with a TD pass (13)...Manning\'s completions, attempts and yards surpassed QB-Rick Mirer (274-486-2,833, Seattle, 1993) as NFL rookie seasonal-bests, while his touchdowns and cons. games with a TD pass broke the 50-year old NFL rookie marks of QB-Charlie Conerly (22, 9, NY Giants, 1948)...Manning\'s totals broke the club rookie marks of Jack Trudeau (204-417-2,225, 1986) and Jeff George (16 TDs, 1990) as well as the club seasonal marks of George (292-485, 1991) and Unitas (3,481, 1963)...Manning also set NFL rookie records with 4 300+ and 4 3-TD games...Manning became the Colts\' 5th opening day rookie starter vs. Miami 9/6 and joined 8 other Colts QBs who earned starts during their rookie season...Manning joined George Shaw (9/25/55 vs. Chi., 23-17 W), Bert Jones (9/16/73 at Clev., 24-14 L), Mike Pagel (9/12/82 vs. NE 24-13 L) and George (9/9/90 at Buf., 26-10 L) as the club\'s only opening-day rookie starting QBs... Manning (22 years, 5 months, 13 days) was the 7th-youngest opening-day rookie starter in NFL history, just behind his father, Archie, the NFL\'s 6th-youngest in that category (22 years, 4 months, New Orleans, 1971)...Manning attempted every pass by the Colts over the 1st 15 games and finished with 575 of club\'s 576 atts. (WR-Torrance Small was 0-1 vs. Carolina 12/27)...Manning ranked 1st in AFC, 3rd in NFL with 3,739 passing yards (4,212, Brett Favre, GB; 4,170, Steve Young, SF)...575 attempts ranked 1st in NFL...Manning joined Unitas (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961) as the only Colts to lead the league in attempts...Manning ranked 1st in AFC, 2nd in NFL, in completions (347, Favre)...Manning ranked 2nd in AFC, 5th in NFL, with 26 TD passes (36, Young; 34, Randall Cunningham, Min.; 31, Favre; 29, Vinny Testaverde, NYJ) and fell just shy of joining QBs-Harry Newman (11, NY Giants, 1933) and Bob Waterfield (14, LA, 1945) as the only rookies to tie or lead his conference or league in TD passes...Manning set the NFL rookie record and the Colts\' seasonal marks with TD passes in 15 different games (missing only 9/20 at NYJ)...the previous club record was 13 different games by Morrall in 1968...TD passes in 13 cons. games ranked 2nd-best in Colts history (47, Unitas, G10-1956 to G10-1960, the NFL record)...Manning produced the 3rd 300+ opening-day yardage outing in club history with 21-37-302, 1 TD/3 ints. outing vs. Mia....Manning joined Unitas (401 vs. Atl. 9/17/67) and George (301 vs. NE 9/1/91) as the only Colts 300+ opening-day passers...he posted only the 4th 300+ game by a Colts rookie (359, Trudeau at NYJ 11/16/86; 315, Trudeau vs. NO 10/12/86; 314, Unitas at Det. 11/18/56)...Manning was 19-32-309, 1 TD/3 ints. vs. NO 9/27 to tie Trudeau as the only Colts rookie QBs with multiple 300+ games as a rookie...Manning hit RB-Marshall Faulk on a 78t pass vs. NO, the 2nd-longest TD pass by a Colts rookie (84t, Trudeau to WR-Bill Brooks at SF 10/5/86)...he was 12-23-137, 1 TD/int. vs. SD 10/4 to notch his 1st career starting victory... he was 21-40-235, 2 TDs/ints. vs. Buf. 10/11...he was 18-30-231, 3 TDs, 117.5 rating at SF 10/18 to tie the club rookie record for most TD passes in a game (Unitas vs. Rams 11/25/56; George at Cin. 11/25/90 and vs. Wash. 12/22/90)...he was 30-52-278, 2 TDs/ints. vs. NE 11/1 to post only the 5th 30+ comp. day in club history, the 1st by a Colts rookie...he was 26-44-276, 3 TDs/2 ints. vs. NYJ 11/15 to join George as the only Colts rookie QBs to post multiple 3-TD games...Manning directed a late 15-play, 80-yard drive that culminated with a 14t strike to TE-Marcus Pollard with :24 left to notch his 1st career 4th-qtr. comeback win...Manning earned AFC Offensive Player-of-the-Week honors for game vs. NYJ, making him only the 6th rookie QB to gain the award since its inception in 1984...Manning was 27-42-357, 3 TDs/1 int. at Balt. 11/29 to set club rookie records with 3rd 300+ game (2 yards shy of Trudeau\'s rookie-best 359 yards) and 3rd 3-TD game (2 by George in 1990)...Manning was 17-26-210, 3 TDs, 128.7 rating vs. Cin. 12/13...he was 23-39-335, 1 TD/int. at Sea. 12/20 for his 4th 300+ game...Manning ended season vs. Car. with 17-34-225, 1 TD/2 ints. and had TD passes in 13 cons. games, extending his NFL rookie record for most cons. games with a scoring pass...Manning set the record by passing 19-27-159, 2 TDs/ints. at Atl. 12/6...Manning had shared the mark with Conerly (9, NYG, 1948)...Manning surpassed the NFL rookie mark since 1970 in that cagetory with 14-29-164, 1 TD/2 ints. at Buf. 11/22...he had shared that mark at 7 cons. games with QBs-Jim Plunkett (NE, 1971), David Woodley (Miami, 1980) and Dan Marino (Miami, 1983).

Manning earned first trip to the Pro Bowl as he totaled 331-533-4,135, 26 TDs/15 ints., 90.7 rating...rebounded from 3-13 starting record in 1998 to post 13-3 record in 1999 ... the 10-game improvement marked the best one-season turnaround by any team in the NFL\'s 80 seasons ... Manning helped direct the Colts to the AFC Eastern Division title, and he helped lead the club to 423 points, the NFL\'s third-highest total ... Manning helped the Colts tie franchise records for consecutive wins (11; 1964, 1975-76) and most wins in a season (13, 1968) ... Manning\'s totals in completions, attempts and yards in both 1998 and 1999 ranked as the best seasonal totals in club history...Manning was the 4th-youngest QB selected for his first Pro Bowl since the AFC-NFC format was instituted in 1971 ... Manning was 23 years, 10 months and 13 days old, and he ranked behind only Marino (1984, Miami, 22-4-14), Bledsoe (1995, New England, 22-11-22) and Favre (1993, Green Bay, 23-3-28) as the youngest first-time Pro Bowl signal-callers ... Manning ended rookie season with touchdown passes in 13 consecutive games, the longest rookie streak in NFL history, then extended the mark to 27 straight games before ending at Cleveland 12/26 ... the 27-game streak tied for fourth-longest in NFL history (47, Unitas, 1956-60; 30, Marino, 1985-87; 28, Dave Kreig, Seattle, 1983-85; 27, Chris Chandler, Atlanta, 1997-99) ... it marked only the 12th 20-game streak in NFL history ... he produced six fourth-quarter comebacks in 1999 to set a club seasonal record ... Manning helped direct the club to 60 \'big\' plays (19 rushes of 15+ yards; 41 passes of 25+ yards) in 1999 ... he teamed with James (369-1,553, 13 TDs rushing/62-586, 4 TDs receiving, 2,139 yards from scrimmage) and Harrison (115-1,663, 12 TDs) to produce only the NFL\'s second offense ever that boasted 4,000-1,500-1,500 performers (1995 Detroit: Scott Mitchell (4,338)-Barry Sanders (1,500)-Herman Moore (1,686)...Manning, Harrison and James became the 1st Colts QB-RB-WR Pro Bowl trio since Jones-Lydell Mitchell-Roger Carr in 1976 ... for the second straight year, a Manning QB-led offense helped produce a 2,000+ yards from scrimmage player (2,227, RB-Marshall Faulk, 1998; 2,139, James, 1999), while Harrison produced only the 26th 100+ reception season in NFL history ... in 1999, Manning ranked 1st in AFC completions, 3rd in NFL, 2nd in AFC attempts, 4th in NFL, 1st in AFC completion percentage (62.1), 2nd in NFL, 1st in AFC yards, 3rd in NFL, 1st in AFC yards per attempt (7.76), 4th in NFL, 1st in AFC touchdown passes, 3rd in NFL ... Manning\'s 90.7 rating ranked 1st in AFC, 4th in NFL ... Manning was 21-33-284, 2 TDs/ ints. vs. Buffalo 9/12/99 to gain first opening-day win, 31-14 ... he was 18-30-223, 3 TDs/2 ints. at New England 9/19 ... he was 29-54-404, 2 TDs/1 int. at San Diego 9/26 in 27-19 win ... Manning set Colts single-game yardage total at SD and joined Unitas (401 vs. Atlanta 9/17/67) as the only Colts QBs with 400+ career games ... Manning became the 6th-youngest NFL player at age 23 to notch a 400+ game (4 times, Marino, Miami, 1984; 2 times, Bernie Kosar, Cleveland, 1986 and Bledsoe, New England, 1994; 1 time, Jacky Lee, Houston, 1961 and David Woodley, Miami, 1981) ... 54 atts. marked 3rd-most in club history (59, George at Wash. 11/7/93; 57, Trudeau vs. NYJ 9/28/86), but it was the only one of those outings that produced a Colts win ... he had 1st career TD rush (12t) at San Diego ... Manning earned AFC Off. Player-of-the-Week for game at San Diego, his 2nd such nomination (also 11/15/98 vs. NYJ, 24-23 win) ... Manning was 17-24-274, 3 TDs/1 int. vs. Miami 10/10 ... he was 21-35-210, 1 TD/int. at NYJ 10/17 ... he was 17-33-284, 2 TDs/1 int. vs. Cincinnati 10/24 ... he was 22-34-313, 1 TD vs. Dallas 10/31 ... Manning was 21-33-290, 1 TD/int. vs. KC 11/7 (with 7t rush) and was 20-35-237, 2 TDs/1 int. at NYG 11/14 ... he was 16-26-235, 3 TDs at Philadelphia 11/21 and 23-31-198, 1 TD/2 ints. vs. NYJ 11/28 ... he was 23-29-260, 1 TD/2 ints. at Miami 12/5 ... he directed game-winning drive in final 30 seconds (16- and 18-yard passes to Harrison to set up 53-yard field goal at gun) ... he was 15-27-186, 2 TDs vs. New England 12/11 ... he was 23-37-298, 2 TDs/1 int. vs. Washington 12/19 as club clinched division title ... he was 27-43-276 at Cleveland 12/26, directing club to 10 fourth-quarter points in 29-28 win ... he was 18-29-163 at Buffalo 1/2 ... wins at NYJ, vs. Dallas, vs. Kansas City, vs. Washington and at Cleveland were fourth-quarter triumphs ... Manning\'s six fourth-quarter comeback wins in 1999 surpassed the prior seasonal-most held by Trudeau (4, 1989) ... the other seasonal-mosts in Colts history are 3 by Unitas (1958, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1967, 1970), Pagel (1983), George (1990); Trudeau (1992) and Harbaugh (1995) ... the prior club seasonal-mosts prior to 1999 were 5 in 1989 and 1990 and 4 in 1992 ... Manning had a long completion exceeding 40 yards in 9 of 16 games and did not had a game with a completion shorter than 23 yards. POST-SEASON: Manning was 19-42-227 vs. Tennessee 1/16/00 in AFC Divisional Playoffs, plus had 15t rush.

Manning totaled 357-571-4,413, 33 TDs/15 ints., 94.7 rating and earned his second consecutive trip to the Pro Bowl...Manning set the club\'s single-season record for passing yards, completions, 300+ games (5) and touchdowns...33 TD passes broke John Unitas\' record of 32 in 1959...Manning recorded TD passes in 15 games, tying his club record 15 games in 1998...Manning ranked 1st in NFL passing yards, 1st in NFL completions and T1st in NFL TDs...he ranked 2nd in AFC rating, 6th in NFL, 2nd in AFC attempts, 3rd in NFL and 2nd in AFC comp. pct., 5th in NFL...he threw a career-high six 50+-yard TD passes...Manning directed a Colts offense that ranked 3rd in NFL net yards, 2nd in AFC, 4th in NFL points, 3rd in AFC...the Colts had 300+ net yards in 14 of 16 games, 325+ yards in 13 of 16 games, 350+ yards in 12 of 16 games, 375+ yards in 9 of 16 games and 400+ yards in 6 of 16 games ... the trio of Manning, RB-Edgerrin James (387-1,709, 13 TDs rushing/63-594, 5 TDs receiving, 2,303 yards from scrimmage) and WR-Marvin Harrison (102-1,413, 14 TDs receiving) became the first triumvirate to post 4,000-1,000-1,000 numbers in consecutive seasons...Manning led the NFL in passing and James won his second cons. NFL rushing title, marking only the second time in NFL history (1937, Washington, RB-Cliff Battles, QB-Sammy Baugh) that one team had the passing and rushing champion...Manning was 22-32-273, 1 TD/1 int., 92.3 rating, at Kansas City 9/3 in season-opening the time of the win, there had been eight QBs selected with the first overall pick in the draft since 1970 and Manning became the only one to win in his debut at Arrowhead Stadium...he set a career-high for completions the following week with 33-48-367, 3 TDs/2 ints., 94.7 rating vs. Oakland 9/10...he recorded 14 cons. completions in the 1st half vs. Oakland, the 2nd-longest streak in club history (17, Bert Jones, vs. NYJ, 12/15/74) first career MNF game, Manning totaled 23-36-440, 4 TDs, 143.3 rating vs. Jacksonville 9/25...440 yards set new franchise-record and eclipsed his old record of 404 yards at San Diego 9/26/ marked then only 3rd 400+ game in club history (401, John Unitas, 9/17/67 vs. Atlanta) and he set club records on MNF for completions, yards and TDs...Manning was named AFC Offensive Player-of-the-Week and Miller Lite Player-of-the-Week for his performance...Manning (16-27-187, 2 TDs/1 int.) recorded fourth career 4th-qtr. game-winning drive at Buffalo 10/1...he led the club on an eight-play 42-yard drive with 1:08 remaining to set up a 45-yard game-winning FG by K-Mike Vanderjagt...Manning was 31-54-334, 1 TD/3 ints. at New England 10/8...he was 20-30-281, 1 TD, 107.7 rating at Seattle 10/15...Manning totaled 16-20-268, 3 TDs, 158.3 rating vs. NE 10/22, his first career perfect rating...he hooked up with WR-Marvin Harrison for 51t and 78t scoring plays...the 78t toss tied for the 2nd-longest of career (80, at Phil., 11/21/99; 78t, vs. New Orleans, 9/27/98)...20 atts. vs. Patriots marked only time in his career he has attempted fewer than 23 passes in a game...posted 80.0 comp. pct. vs. Patriots becoming only the 4th QB in club history (done 5 times) to post 80.0 comp. pct. with a minimum 15 attempts...he was 22-33-288, 3 TDs/2 ints., 99.0 rating vs. Detroit 10/29...Manning engineered club to 23-15 victory vs. NYJ 11/12 with 21-35-210, 1 TD...Manning totaled 25-44-294, 3 TDs/1 int., at Green Bay 11/19...he was 27-51-339, 2 TDs/2 ints., at NYJ 12/3, extending his streak of TD passes to 13 cons. marked the 2nd-longest streak of his career (27 games) ...Manning tallied 21-28-206, 1 TD, 107.1 rating at Miami 12/17...added 4t rush for third career rushing TD...he concluded regular season vs. Minnesota 12/24 by totaling 25-36-283, 4 TDs/1 int., 118.2 marked second game in 2000 he tossed 4 TDs and he became first Colts\' QB to throw for 4 TD passes twice in a season since Unitas (1966). POST-SEASON: Started at QB at Miami 12/30 and totaled 17-32-194, 1 TD...hooked up with WR-Jerome Pathon for 17t strike for first career post-season TD pass.

Started 16 games for 4th consecutive season and totaled 343-547-4,131, 26 TDs/23 ints., 84.1 rating ... was 22-32-231, 2 TDs/2 ints. at NYJ 9/9 ... was 23-29-421, 4 TDs/2 ints., 129.6 rating vs. Buffalo 9/23 ... Manning totaled 20-34-196, 1 TD/3 ints. at New England 9/30 and 26-41-241, 2 TDs/ints. vs. Oakland 10/14 ... he was 22-34-335, 1 TD, 106.9 rating vs. New England 10/21, 19-30-201, 2 TDs, 105.0 rating at Kansas City 10/25 and 23-35-325, 3 TDs/1 int., 112.2 rating vs. Atlanta 12/16, his 16th career 100+ rating game ... he was 17-27-199, 1 TD at Buffalo 11/4 and 20-33-253, 3 TDs/2 ints. vs. Miami 11/11 ... he was 18-28-262, 1 TD/int. at New Orleans 11/18, hitting career-long 86t pass to TE-Marcus Pollard, the 5th-longest TD pass in Colts history ... he was 27-48-310, 2 TDs/1 int. at Baltimore 12/2 and 25-35-228, 1 TD vs. NYJ 12/23 ... he was 15-28-195, 1 int. at St. Louis 12/30 and 16-30-191, 2 TDs/1 int. vs. Denver 1/6 ... Manning ranked 1st in AFC passing yards, 2nd in NFL passing yards ... 26 TD passes ranked 2nd in the AFC, T5th in the NFL ... Manning had his streak of scoring passes in 13 consecutive games end 12/10 at Miami and he did not have a TD pass at St. Louis 12/30, only his 6th career game without a TD pass ... the 13-game streak was his 3rd career 10+-game streak ... he hit scoring tosses in 27 straight games from 1998-1999, marking only the 12th 20+-game streak in NFL history and tied the fourth-longest in NFL history ... he had a 13-game streak in 2000 and owns three of the seven 10+-game streaks in club history (47 games, John Unitas; 27, Manning; 13, Manning; 13, Manning; 11, Unitas; 10, Unitas; 10, Jim Harbaugh)...26 TD passes by Manning marked the 16th 20+ TD season by a Colts QB (8, Unitas - 32, 1959; 25, 1960; 24, 1957; 23, 1962, 1965; 22, 1966; 20, 1963, 1967; 4, Manning - 33, 2000; 26, 1998; 26, 1999; 26, 2001; 3, Jones - 24, 1976; 23, 1980; 21, 1981; 1, Morrall - 26, 1968) ... Unitas (1959-60, 62-63, 65-67), Jones (1980-81) and Manning (1998-01) are the only Colts with cons. 20+ TD passing seasons.

College Highlights
Four-year starter...saw action in 48 games with 45 starts...set 33 school records, 8 SEC records and two NCAA marks...set SEC career records for wins as starting quarterback (39-6), completions (863), passing yards (11,201), total offense (11,020), completion percentage (62.49%), interception percentage (2.39%) and 300+ outings (18)...set NCAA records for lowest career int. pct. (2.39%; 33 of 1,381 atts.) and lowest single-season int. pct. (1.05%; 4 of 380 atts. in 1995)...ranked 3rd in NCAA history in passing yards and total offense, 5th in completions 4th in TDs (89), 8th in attempts (1,381) and 11th in career QB rating (147.11)...posted 26-4 record as starter in SEC games...was three-time Academic All-America honoree ... started 13 games as senior and helped team to SEC Championship, and 11-2 record...set SEC seasonal record for total offense (3,789) while setting school marks for seasonal completions (287), attempts (477), yards (3,819) and TDs (36)...posted nine 300+ outings...named MVP of SEC Championship Game after totaling 25-43-373, 4 TDs/2 ints., with 73t and 46t passes, in 30-29 win over Auburn...named CNN/SI National Player-of-the-Week and SEC Offensive Player-of-the-Week after 25-35-523, 5 TDs, with 66t, 59t and 50t strikes, in 59-31 win at Kentucky...set school record with 12 consecutive completions...was 35-53-399, 4 TDs passing with 1t rush vs. Southern Miss....Sullivan Award for nation\'s top amateur athlete based on character, leadership, athletic ability and the ideals of amateurism, only 4th collegiate football player honored in award\'s 69-year history...Maxwell Award for College Football Player-of-the-Year...Heisman Trophy runner-up...Football News National Offensive Player-of-the-Year...Davey O\'Brien Award for top quarterback...Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award for top senior quarterback...AP, Football News, Walter Camp, FWAA, and AFCA All-America 1st-team...AP and Football News SEC Player-of-the-Year...AP, Football News and Coaches All-SEC...National Football Foundation, NASDAQ and American Honda National Scholar-Athlete of the Year...GTE Academic All-America 1st-team...SEC and AFCA \"Football Good Works Team\" for community service...Academic All-SEC...started 12 games as junior and helped team to 10-2 record...was 243-380-3,287, 20 TDs/12 ints...had five 300+ outings...named MVP of 48-28 Citrus Bowl win over Northwestern after posting 27-39-408, 4 TDs passing...set school single-game records for completions and attempts with 37-65-492, 4 TDs vs. Florida...named SEC Offensive Player-of-the-Week twice: 31-41-371, 2 TDs at Georgia and 27-36-362, 2 TDs at South Carolina...AP, Football News All-America 3rd-team...AP, Football News, Coaches All-SEC 2nd-team....GTE Academic All-America 2nd-team...American Honda and CFA Scholar-Athlete Team...Academic All-SEC...started 12 games as sophomore and led team to 11-1 record...was 244-380-2,954, 22 TDs/4 ints. passing...added five rushing TDs...had four 300+ outings...named Sporting News National Player-of-the-Week and SEC Offensive Player-of-the-Week after 35-46-384, 4 TDs/1 int., with 55t pass, at Arkansas...had 70t pass, 1t rush and had school record streak of 132 consecutive passes without int. end at Kentucky...was 20-35-182, 1 TD, with 47t strike, in 20-14 Citrus Bowl win over Ohio State...AP All-America third-team...Coaches All-SEC first-team...AP All-SEC secnd-team...GTE Academic All-America secnd-team...Academic All-SEC...saw action in 11 games as freshman with eight starts...started final eight games...totaled 89-144-1,141, 11 TDs/6 ints. passing with one rushing TD...posted 7-1 record as starter...was 12-19-189, 1 TD in 45-23 Gator Bowl victory over Virginia Tech...named SEC Freshman-of-the-Year ... graduated cum laude in three years (3.61 GPA) with major in speech communication.

Swampdog, next time do me a favor and post a link to something this long. Thanks

[Edited on 25/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]

BillyCarpenter1 09-25-2003 11:20 AM


Aug. 25 — Maybe a couple of years ago, it was too soon to ask when Peyton Manning would win a game that really counted. But it’s his sixth season in the NFL now, and he’s started every game in every one of his previous five seasons. It’s no longer too early to ask.

WHICH MEANS THAT it’s also fair to ask when Manning is ever going to do anything other than ring up eye-popping statistics that are, in the absence of playoff wins, as hollow as Christmas tree ornaments

And yet, in his last 50 games, including playoffs, his record as a starter is 25-25, and, for all his scintillating numbers, he has never led the Colts out of the first round of the playoffs. In last season’s attempt — his third — to change that, he and the Colts got hammered 41-0 by the Jets. This is not the definition of coming up big.

It’s one thing to vie with Marino and Jim Kelly for the title of Greatest Quarterback Never to Win a Super Bowl. Those two Hall of Famers at least got to the big game. But when the title you’ve already got wrapped up is Greatest Quarterback Never to win a Playoff Game, it’s time to ask some serious questions

For four seasons, the good fans of Indianapolis, who have pretty much defined “long-suffering� in the 20 years since Robert Irsay smuggled the team out of Baltimore in the dead of night, were patient with the strapping young quarterback. But last year’s blowout playoff loss struck a nerve.

The formula is there for him. Stop trying to get it all at once. Stop forcing the ball into places it can’t go under pressure. Throw the ball away now and then. Throw the short outlet pass. Stop looking down the field.
Or maybe the easier and shorter way to say it is simply: stop being Peyton Manning.

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