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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintpaul25 You must be psychic bro.... Just saw that he might be on the trading block with the Cowboys, come draft day. I say a 1st, and at least a 4th, or another player. You must be ...

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Old 04-15-2010, 12:17 AM   #31
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Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts

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You must be psychic bro.... Just saw that he might be on the trading block with the Cowboys, come draft day. I say a 1st, and at least a 4th, or another player.
You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends.
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Old 04-15-2010, 12:27 AM   #32
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Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts

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You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends.
I don't think it's unreasonable at all. Brown is a two time pro bowl LT, and the cowboys need someone that reliable to protect Romo's blindside. A rookie isn't going to be able to do that in my opinion. And JJ wants a superbowl now, not next year.
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Did I read this right? Jamaal Brown is invaluable?!?! He deserves whatever contract he wants?!?!

Surely I'm misunderstanding something here. Surely a guy who missed an entire season and saw the team do better than when he was playing is not invaluable. He's valuable because he's a good player, but invaluable is unbelievably... What's the word I'm looking for? Silly? Ridiculous?

Please explain what you meant, surely that's not what you intended.
im really not up to explaining why but i'll put it in a nutshell for you

brown is a 2 time pro bowl LT......he has missed significant time only once in his career(last year).....he isnt as injury prone as people make him out to be

oh yea.....and our backup that we put in last year......stunk

here's a little tid bit to help you understand what im talking about

He led the league in rushing average behind left tackle while only allowing 3 sacks in 2008.....and those holding and false start penalties he had? brown was credited with 7 penalties all season in 2008......combined he made up for 10 bad plays the entire season

when we passed the ball more than any other team in history and our starting LT only gives up 3 sacks and is credited with only 7 penalties all season......BROWN IS A STUD


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You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends.
i'll give you the name of another guy who struggles against elite defensive ends.....maybe you've heard of him......his name is EVERYBODY

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you get hurt for the entire season last year

you get a free super bowl ring....you play on a team completely capable of repeating and you can actually earn your ring

you play on a team that is more loved by its home city than any other sports franchise IN THE WORLD

and your going to sit on ur butt while the rest of the team gets better

you earn no sympathy from me or anyone else by doing this......you want a better contract......EARN IT

i hope to god bushrod doesnt play like **** like he did last year and takes your spot if you cant manage to get over a few cents

no matter how much i cheer you on and support you as a player, you will never get a huge contract extension after you sit an entire season on the bench
Hey Bro...

How you liking Brown now?!?

Trade his arse now and get a guy that wants to be here; and no, if you didn't play you shouldn't get a ring, tough break but that's how it should be...

It's not a dig on you, it's just this all I've ever seen out of this guy and that's why I would love to get even a R2 pick for 'em

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Old 04-17-2010, 03:05 PM   #35
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Hey Bro...

How you liking Brown now?!?

Trade his arse now and get a guy that wants to be here; and no, if you didn't play you shouldn't get a ring, tough break but that's how it should be...

It's not a dig on you, it's just this all I've ever seen out of this guy and that's why I would love to get even a R2 pick for 'em
hes still clearly our best tackle

but this upsets me a lot

you hear a lot of this from skill positions but not very common for offensive linemen......im really disappointed in him
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im really not up to explaining why but i'll put it in a nutshell for you

brown is a 2 time pro bowl LT......he has missed significant time only once in his career(last year).....he isnt as injury prone as people make him out to be

oh yea.....and our backup that we put in last year......stunk

here's a little tid bit to help you understand what im talking about

He led the league in rushing average behind left tackle while only allowing 3 sacks in 2008.....and those holding and false start penalties he had? brown was credited with 7 penalties all season in 2008......combined he made up for 10 bad plays the entire season

when we passed the ball more than any other team in history and our starting LT only gives up 3 sacks and is credited with only 7 penalties all season......BROWN IS A STUD




i'll give you the name of another guy who struggles against elite defensive ends.....maybe you've heard of him......his name is EVERYBODY
Perhaps you missed the point of my comment: JAMMAL BROWN IS NOT INVALUABLE. I don't think you know what invaluable means. If he was invaluable, there would have been no way to win a Super Bowl with him gone for the entire season.

Here's what Pat Yasinkas wrote two days ago:

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New Orleans offensive tackle Jammal Brown. He reportedly will stay away from offseason workouts and we can only assume thatís Brownís way of stating he wants a big, long-term contract. Thatís a bit of a risky move. Brown is an above average left tackle, but heís not dominant. He missed last year with an injury and the Saints got by with Jermon Bushrod and Zach Strief. That wasnít an ideal situation, but it showed the Saints can function without Brown. That could turn out to be a sign of things to come. Take a look around the league. Teams aren't rushing to give out long-term deals because they don't know what's going to happen with the labor situation. Brown's not exactly playing from a position of strength right now.

And yes, Brown is injury prone. Not once in his five year career has he played 16 games. While this past season was the longest, I still consider somebody who can never play a full season to be injury prone.

And while Bushrod certainly isn't as good as Brown, he's no chump. The Saints line, as a total, gave up the fourth fewest sacks in the NFL so let's not try to paint him as a terrible lineman. The Saints also had the fourth most rushing first downs in the NFL when rushing to the left side, and the seventh most rushes over 10 yards.
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Perhaps you missed the point of my comment: JAMMAL BROWN IS NOT INVALUABLE. I don't think you know what invaluable means. If he was invaluable, there would have been no way to win a Super Bowl with him gone for the entire season.

Here's what Pat Yasinkas wrote two days ago:

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New Orleans offensive tackle Jammal Brown. He reportedly will stay away from offseason workouts and we can only assume thatís Brownís way of stating he wants a big, long-term contract. Thatís a bit of a risky move. Brown is an above average left tackle, but heís not dominant. He missed last year with an injury and the Saints got by with Jermon Bushrod and Zach Strief. That wasnít an ideal situation, but it showed the Saints can function without Brown. That could turn out to be a sign of things to come. Take a look around the league. Teams aren't rushing to give out long-term deals because they don't know what's going to happen with the labor situation. Brown's not exactly playing from a position of strength right now.

And yes, Brown is injury prone. Not once in his five year career has he played 16 games. While this past season was the longest, I still consider somebody who can never play a full season to be injury prone.

And while Bushrod certainly isn't as good as Brown, he's no chump. The Saints line, as a total, gave up the fourth fewest sacks in the NFL so let's not try to paint him as a terrible lineman. The Saints also had the fourth most rushing first downs in the NFL when rushing to the left side, and the seventh most rushes over 10 yards.
thank god for pat yasinkas.....without him i wouldnt know anything about football

i know exactly what invaluable means.....i used it correctly in a sentence and even spelled it right......you want its country of origin too?

there is nothing that you can tell me that i dont already know about jammal brown because ive had this argument a lot more than you have. no matter what pat says, a 2 time pro bowl LT is not simply "above average"
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Brown will bring a high 3rd at best in a trade with maybe a conditional 4th next year that could become a third thrown in. But, when it's all said and done, I expect Brown to be a Saint in 2010. And for the 2010 season, my opinion is that's for the best. There no doubt Bushrod can get the job done. But, the more talent and depth the better. Without Brown and with an injury to Bushrod or Stinchcomb, Strief is starting with no depth behind him. The downside is with all the tackles being free agents next year and two most likely leaving, a strength becomes a weakness real quick.
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:07 PM   #39
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thank god for pat yasinkas.....without him i wouldnt know anything about football

i know exactly what invaluable means.....i used it correctly in a sentence and even spelled it right......you want its country of origin too?

there is nothing that you can tell me that i dont already know about jammal brown because ive had this argument a lot more than you have. no matter what pat says, a 2 time pro bowl LT is not simply "above average"
O wow, you've had this argument a lot more than I have?!?!? Then you must be an expert. Point is, invaluable means priceless, among other things. So you're implying that we give Jammal Brown whatever he wants? Even after sitting out for a year and watching his team do better than the previous season? Please enlighten me on how that makes sense.
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O wow, you've had this argument a lot more than I have?!?!? Then you must be an expert. Point is, invaluable means priceless, among other things. So you're implying that we give Jammal Brown whatever he wants? Even after sitting out for a year and watching his team do better than the previous season? Please enlighten me on how that makes sense.
yes im an expert......i know pretty much everything

i got this app on my iphone that you should really check out....it lets me know EVERYTHING.....but alas.....it costs millions of dollars and its banned in 49 states

im not implying that the saints should give brown whatever he wants.....im flat out saying the saints should give brown whatever he wants

it was evident that brown is light years ahead of bushrod and brown clearly deserves whatever he asks for simply by being on the field
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