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Saintswrath 04-14-2010 11:42 AM

Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians.
 
From New Orleans Saints Drew Brees, who tweeted late last night:

"I wish people in New Orleans would stop killin eachother. There is too much love in this city for all that violence. How can we stop it?"

New Orleans Saints comment of the day | - NOLA.com


" This is a direct response to what happened on Canal street with the mass shootings "

strato 04-14-2010 12:07 PM

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I know thats one reason ive stayed away from moving to NOLA...i wish it would stop...

Choupique 04-14-2010 12:13 PM

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how can you stop violence in new orleans?
first off, it would get really ugly before it got pretty.

the good news is that run from katrina cowardly Nagin is gone.
what a douchebag

i assure you landrieu will be more no-nonsense when it comes to crime.


TO STOP THE VIOLENCE...
you'd have to unseat gangs, wannab gangs, old school mafia
as well as the new mexicartel drug distributors.

good luck in your endeavors, new orleans.

it can be done but blood will be spilled doing it.

Saintswrath 04-14-2010 12:29 PM

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The sad part is, the good people cowardly left the city to the thugs, the good thing is, their may be a shiny beacon coming in May as the new office takes place and a new chief is brought in that "Could be" competent.
I think the death Penalty should be brought back, i also think hard (HARD) Labor should be brought back, there's tons of grass to be cut, trash to be picked up, stuff to repair, tree's to trim throughout the city, if we put these people to work or to death that could help detour a lot of whats going on, they'll either want to leave or do anything possible not to go back and lounge in Prison until their lawyers get them out.

strato 04-14-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 218298)
first off, it would get really ugly before it got pretty.

the good news is that run from katrina cowardly Nagin is gone.
what a douchebag

i assure you landrieu will be more no-nonsense when it comes to crime.


TO STOP THE VIOLENCE...
you'd have to unseat gangs, wannab gangs, old school mafia
as well as the new mexicartel drug distributors.

good luck in your endeavors, new orleans.

it can be done but blood will be spilled doing it.

I dont think a drop of blood has to be spilled thats the whole point...but your right ...it probably will..

breesfan27 04-14-2010 01:11 PM

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That's one of the reasons we moved away. My mom didn't want to raise two small children in such a violent city. I hope the new mayor can clean up the city. It breaks my heart to see my fellow New Orleans brothers and sisters causing each other harm.

exile 04-14-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 218304)
The sad part is, the good people cowardly left the city to the thugs, the good thing is, their may be a shiny beacon coming in May as the new office takes place and a new chief is brought in that "Could be" competent.
I think the death Penalty should be brought back, i also think hard (HARD) Labor should be brought back, there's tons of grass to be cut, trash to be picked up, stuff to repair, tree's to trim throughout the city, if we put these people to work or to death that could help detour a lot of whats going on, they'll either want to leave or do anything possible not to go back and lounge in Prison until their lawyers get them out.

Agreed and Agreed. I would even raise a thumb to sending these thugs to gitmo. I hate to say it also but NOPD is a mess and needs a scrubbing completely.

This is New Orleans! Let's straighten it out together.

Srgt. Hulka 04-14-2010 01:39 PM

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It's going to take someone with the cahoonas to want to tackle the problem head on, like Rudy Giuliani did in New York. "School Bus" Nagin could care less. And I'm not sure Landrieu is the person to do it. I hope I'm wrong though.

Louisiana does have the death penalty. Pesonally, I think they should put in an "express lane" (to quote Ron White) like they have in Texas.

st thomas 04-14-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 218304)
The sad part is, the good people cowardly left the city to the thugs, the good thing is, their may be a shiny beacon coming in May as the new office takes place and a new chief is brought in that "Could be" competent.
I think the death Penalty should be brought back, i also think hard (HARD) Labor should be brought back, there's tons of grass to be cut, trash to be picked up, stuff to repair, tree's to trim throughout the city, if we put these people to work or to death that could help detour a lot of whats going on, they'll either want to leave or do anything possible not to go back and lounge in Prison until their lawyers get them out.

well said wrath, all i can say is the same thing . with all the destruction still laying around the city ,ninth ward ,st bernard etc. put them in that 110 degree heat with humidity they'll hand in the arms. please everyone stop the blood from spilling, this beautiful city and patrons does'nt deserve this.

strato 04-14-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 218325)
It's going to take someone with the cahoonas to want to tackle the problem head on, like Rudy Giuliani did in New York. "School Bus" Nagin could care less. And I'm not sure Landrieu is the person to do it. I hope I'm wrong though.

Louisiana does have the death penalty. Pesonally, I think they should put in an "express lane" (to quote Ron White) like they have in Texas.

Here in Texas you kill and you will be killed..its that simple..i have a cousin who was murdered and the two guys both went to sleep...but it doesnt stop the killing ..it just goes on and on man...

st thomas 04-14-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 218329)
Here in Texas you kill and you will be killed..its that simple..i have a cousin who was murdered and the two guys both went to sleep...but it doesnt stop the killing ..it just goes on and on man...

sorry about the kinfolk's strato, they do have big cities in the country that have lower crime rates , theres no excuses that we can get the right people in here to get it done, no matter if it takes help from the military to get the scum of the streeets patroling the cracks and cranny's in the city. its full of police in the french quarter/bourbon street. what we need is for them to patrol the side streets to them also. allready that takes the crimes down atomatic.we patrol iraq with thousands at night why not the big easy with the same ideas. the crime problems has to open the eye's of top free agents in the nfl, not helping us maybe in landing a few.

exile 04-14-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 218329)
Here in Texas you kill and you will be killed..its that simple..i have a cousin who was murdered and the two guys both went to sleep...but it doesnt stop the killing ..it just goes on and on man...

But it does stop the same ones from killing again. Many parts of South Texas is probably even worse than NOLA I'm sure.

strato 04-14-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 218361)
But it does stop the same ones from killing again. Many parts of South Texas is probably even worse than NOLA I'm sure.

Yes and we have qiute the crime rate here in H-Town..but Nola seems to be worse as far as cities..but we have all the same bull**** they do..south Texas can be bad if you get caught in the crossfires...

MorningWood 04-14-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 218304)
The sad part is, the good people cowardly left the city to the thugs, .


Cowardly? You can't blame people for wanting to raise their families in safety.


I live on the coast and for the first time ever I have real reservations about taking my wife and kids to visit NOLA.

NOLA better get a handle on this quick. The city will see a huge drop in tourism, which means an even worse economy and more crime. A death spiral.

Turbo Saint 04-14-2010 07:15 PM

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i heard an interesting statistic...el paso texas is one of the safest US cities and it's right across from one of the most violent mexican cities, ciudad juarez. they must be doing something right in el paso....same goes for san diego being right next to TJ...relatively safe.

*i can't believe i just stood up for texas (smack)* sorry strato :P

neugey 04-14-2010 07:26 PM

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Hadn't heard about this. Thank goodness no one was killed.

strato 04-14-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Saint (Post 218438)
i heard an interesting statistic...el paso texas is one of the safest US cities and it's right across from one of the most violent mexican cities, ciudad juarez. they must be doing something right in el paso....same goes for san diego being right next to TJ...relatively safe.

*i can't believe i just stood up for texas (smack)* sorry strato :P

Thats my boy...lol

QBREES9 04-14-2010 08:23 PM

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I wished they stop here in New Haven Ct. We've had eight murders in five days. Thats insane.

SaintPauly 04-14-2010 09:01 PM

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I know that I am going to tick off some people when I say this, but it's what I believe whole heartedly. This whole "gangster" mentallity, stems from the popular music, movies, television, and magazines. The "thug life" creed, has killed many decent hard working Americans, and until the media takes responsibility for putting these criminals, in the position of role models for young people, this entire country is in jeopardy.

Used to be, when I was growing up, that going to prison, was considered the most horrible thing, a person could do. Now you have rappers almost bragging about their gang affiliations, their pasts that consist of drug dealing, pimping, and killing for profit. This is what I would say 90 percent of todays young people are looking at, as their lifestyle choice.

In this country we glorify murderer's, and do blockbuster movies about their lives, while their victims lie silent in 6 foot deep holes, with only their families grieving, to stand as their rememberance. We have guys like 50 cent, a proclaimed ex crack dealer, and pimp, hanging on our kids bedroom walls! Kids getting killed on their way home from school, FOR THEIR FREAKING SHOES.

There is a way to stop this junk, but it isn't the cops, and the politicians who are going to do the most damage, it's us, the consumers! Until we stop buying their products, stop paying to see their movies, and just basically turn our backs on this group of domestic terrorists, then NOTHING will change.

"Its just music", "I don't tell anyone how to live their life", "everyone makes their own choices." "I am not a role model". Here's a newsflash for you, YES U ARE. As soon as you became famous, for whatever reason, you put yourself in the spotlight, as someone for young people to look up to, and emmulate. But, since these money grubbing media wh&^%s, will never take responsibility, for things that make them millions of dollars daily, it falls on us. Citizens, friends, and parents, to open kids eyes to these false idols, and get them on track to being something better than a no good, piece of crap, wanna be street thug.

Sorry for the soapbox, but I see this kind of thing everyday, here in San Francisco, and honestly it makes me wanna puke. Like I said, and I will say it again, because it needs to be said, over, and over again. The cops, and the politicians, are not going to do anything, but band aid, an already out of control situation. You want stuff like this to stop? Then it's up to you to stop it.

SaintPauly 04-14-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MorningWood (Post 218426)
Cowardly? You can't blame people for wanting to raise their families in safety.


I live on the coast and for the first time ever I have real reservations about taking my wife and kids to visit NOLA.

NOLA better get a handle on this quick. The city will see a huge drop in tourism, which means an even worse economy and more crime. A death spiral.

I agree with this post. San Francisco has seen an incredible drop in tourism over the past five years, since certain sections of the city, (tenderloin, castro, north beach, downtown) have basically become havens for lowlifes, pimps, drug dealers, and 16-18 year old gangs roving around. It will happen, and when the city starts losing citizens, and all the sudden these same dregs, can't afford a pot to pee in, they will blame everyone else but themselves. I personally think we should ship everyone of them to Antarctica, to live out the rest of their useless lives, killing each other off, but that's just me.

breesfan27 04-14-2010 10:22 PM

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I live in a town of almost 70k, and we have maybe one murder a month. (Yeah, you're all thinking, "Wow, that's nothing.") Living here for as long as I have, I like the fact that the crime rate is so low here compared to bigger cities. I would love to move back to New Orleans, but the high crime rate scares me, thus preventing me from moving back.

SaintPauly 04-14-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 218491)
I live in a town of almost 70k, and we have maybe one murder a month. (Yeah, you're all thinking, "Wow, that's nothing.") Living here for as long as I have, I like the fact that the crime rate is so low here compared to bigger cities. I would love to move back to New Orleans, but the high crime rate scares me, thus preventing me from moving back.

No one is going to wrong you, for wanting to be able to sleep at night, feeling safe about it. I miss Mississippi, for the same reasons. We didn't even have to lock our doors at night, unless we just wanted too. I could leave my keys in my car, in the front yard, and it was still there when I woke up the next day. My only question is, what happens, when all of the good people that live in the city, finally get fed up, and leave? I guess the thieves and the damned, will have to kill, and steal from each other. Either that, or they will follow us to the country I guess. They are like a virus, the only way to get rid of it, is to..... Well you guys know....

HintOfLogic 04-15-2010 12:03 AM

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New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks.

My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all.

I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system.

strato 04-15-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic (Post 218528)
New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks.

My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all.

I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system.

I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

SaintPauly 04-15-2010 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic (Post 218528)
New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks.

My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all.

I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system.

Yes, I agree with that statement, and it's NOT just N.O., it's the entire country my friend. Heck, something like 40% of the population inside prisons right now, aren't even U.S. citizens! They would rather be in jail here, than free in their own country.

Revolving door is the idea. But like I said before, we live in a country, that thrives on violence. It's on television, movies, in music, it's everywhere. Of course, those things are going to infiltrate into people's on personal lives. I remember seeing a story, about a kid somewhere in Alabama, that stole a car, and was driving it like he was in the video game, Grand Theft Auto! He was like 14 years old.

Crime, in every city of America, is going up yearly, and until the people who are having to foot the bill for these hooligan's, to stay in jail, get tired of it, and do something about it, it will continue to get worse. In other words, the system isn't failing, it has failed. So time for a new system.

SaintPauly 04-15-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 218529)
I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

I don't think it does. I think that in New Orleans, everyone knows where the drunken tourists are, and that's where they go to take advantage of the situation. Some people have the ability to go party, drink, and have a good time, without shooting anyone. It's the thugs, and wastes of oxygen, that look to profit off of people who do that, that are to blame. Used to be these so-called "gangsters", kept this kind of bs, in their own neighborhoods. Once they figured out they couldn't move up in life, robbing from people that are just as poor as they are, they had to move the operation into the better parts of town. It's very sad really.

Turbo Saint 04-15-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 218529)
I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

i really don't think that atmosphere has anything to do with it simply b/c it's not the tourists (a) or the locals that go out in the quarter (b) that do the crimes. it's the douchies in the melph and ex-nolia that wanna keep their "reps" in check.

and honestly, i hope it continues b/c sooner or later they'll kill all of each other until there's no one on "the other side" left to kill. not like they're attacking the brees family, or the turbo saint family walking down the sidewalk even if it was on lasalle and washington...just doesn't happen like that.

there's not a street in new orleans i wouldn't walk down and i've walked down most of em...it's all about perception and maybe i'm naive, but little haiti in miami never made me bat an eye either...most of the crime is criminal on criminal. nothing to worry about...just my perception.

HintOfLogic 04-15-2010 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 218529)
I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

Not at all.... the crime comes from the ghettos and poverty. Simple as that. The most "policed" areas of N.O. are the party atmospheres (you know, where the tourism / money is generated). The daily murders are not drunken, party foolishness, it's kids turned drug dealers killing each other over petty little issues if they think they were ripped off of $20 for example.

If I really want to get into it, I'd blame the parents of the criminals, who were also likely criminals and don't know how to parent and so on.... It's a long story theory, but I assure you at the root of the crime is a mass of parents (or parent in most cases) that don't know where their kids are, what they're up to and don't care. Or for the older ones, they grew up without that supervision.

HintOfLogic 04-15-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 218531)
I remember seeing a story, about a kid somewhere in Alabama, that stole a car, and was driving it like he was in the video game, Grand Theft Auto! He was like 14 years old.

That's a familiar story..... something similar to that happened a few years ago here and it was apparent that the kids were playing "Real Life GTA". I was telling everyone I talked to that I think they were warped by or maybe even just influenced by playing the game so much. Everyone laughed at me like it's not conceivable... but it was really obvious by the actions they took. Funny. Not much anyone can do about that though. Again, I think that's a - to each his own responsibility per parent...

BIGEASY504 04-15-2010 07:52 AM

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There is a history of crime in New Orleans and it goes way back to when the ports were established it was to the point where official turned a blind eye to it and then eventually became working for the mob and taking payoffs. The whole government body needs to be cleaned out so hopefully the new regime will be a lot better. But New Orleans is not the only city just a question did you know in Austin TX has 5 murders in the last 7 days. Yes it needs to stop but this is everywhere.

strato 04-15-2010 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic (Post 218543)
Not at all.... the crime comes from the ghettos and poverty. Simple as that. The most "policed" areas of N.O. are the party atmospheres (you know, where the tourism / money is generated). The daily murders are not drunken, party foolishness, it's kids turned drug dealers killing each other over petty little issues if they think they were ripped off of $20 for example.

If I really want to get into it, I'd blame the parents of the criminals, who were also likely criminals and don't know how to parent and so on.... It's a long story theory, but I assure you at the root of the crime is a mass of parents (or parent in most cases) that don't know where their kids are, what they're up to and don't care. Or for the older ones, they grew up without that supervision.

Exactly..shouldnt the party be left alone by police to deal with the real crime..Ive always thought that the party is a big distraction to what really needs to be addressed...i know NOLA needs the tourisim..but i think it adds to the problem..I dunno i dont live there so its just an outsiders opinion..which really is irrelavent..

strato 04-15-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 (Post 218584)
There is a history of crime in New Orleans and it goes way back to when the ports were established it was to the point where official turned a blind eye to it and then eventually became working for the mob and taking payoffs. The whole government body needs to be cleaned out so hopefully the new regime will be a lot better. But New Orleans is not the only city just a question did you know in Austin TX has 5 murders in the last 7 days. Yes it needs to stop but this is everywhere.

As i stated earlier in this thread Texas even with the death penalty has a lot of murders..it doesnt deter it at all..I think all criminals that committ murder dont ever think they will be caught ...so knowing they could face the death penalty never stops them...

Srgt. Hulka 04-15-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 218594)
As i stated earlier in this thread Texas even with the death penalty has a lot of murders..it doesnt deter it at all..I think all criminals that committ murder dont ever think they will be caught ...so knowing they could face the death penalty never stops them...


Maybe you're right Strat, but the one's that do get put to death won't get out in 10-15 years and start back up where they left off...leaving another family without a son, daughter, mother, father, or in your case, a cousin. That may sound cold, but it's the cold hard fact.

Turbo Saint 04-15-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 218594)
As i stated earlier in this thread Texas even with the death penalty has a lot of murders..it doesnt deter it at all..I think all criminals that committ murder dont ever think they will be caught ...so knowing they could face the death penalty never stops them...

you're totally right. the death penalty does nothing to help rehabilitate, prevent, or "correct" the criminals. the states' citizens have to start thinking for any of the above to happen.

saintfan 04-15-2010 10:51 PM

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I confess I'm not up on the stats, but I don't think the intention of the death penalty is to 'rehabilitate' or 'correct', I think it's to punish someone for an ultimate wrong, and while it may (or may not) go on to deter someone else from doing the same thing (and I personally doubt it does much of that), it sure as hell puts a stop to the guy getting the 'gas' from doing it again.

Sorta like that bug that hits your windshield - you can bet he won't have the guts to do that again. ;)

SaintPauly 04-15-2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic (Post 218545)
That's a familiar story..... something similar to that happened a few years ago here and it was apparent that the kids were playing "Real Life GTA". I was telling everyone I talked to that I think they were warped by or maybe even just influenced by playing the game so much. Everyone laughed at me like it's not conceivable... but it was really obvious by the actions they took. Funny. Not much anyone can do about that though. Again, I think that's a - to each his own responsibility per parent...

But I think that's the point here. We live in a different time, than I was a kid. My mom stayed home with me, until I was at least ten, or eleven. Now a days, with the economy as terrible as it is, both parents HAVE to work, if you have kids. While I agree that parents need to take the lead role, in the raising, and instilling values, in their children, it also fall on the community to help out. As well as the people who our children are looking up too, and immulating. Take us all here for example. When one of our players does something completely idiotic, even if he's a great player, the majority of us jump on them with both feet, even though we don't really know him. Why not do this with the kids in our neighborhoods? Why not keep a watchful eye out, and help these kids, that need helping? We can't keep blaming a system, that we all helped to disable, if we aren't willing to do our part to make it work. And in my mind, that means doing more, than just complaining about it, and passing the buck onto the parents, the police, and the politicians.

HintOfLogic 04-16-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 (Post 218584)
But New Orleans is not the only city just a question did you know in Austin TX has 5 murders in the last 7 days. Yes it needs to stop but this is everywhere.

WAIT! Are you saying that they evacuated New Orleanians to Austin TOO! Only Explanation! .... kidding, but yeah that sucks.

HintOfLogic 04-16-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 218734)
But I think that's the point here. We live in a different time, than I was a kid. My mom stayed home with me, until I was at least ten, or eleven. Now a days, with the economy as terrible as it is, both parents HAVE to work, if you have kids. While I agree that parents need to take the lead role, in the raising, and instilling values, in their children, it also fall on the community to help out. As well as the people who our children are looking up too, and immulating. Take us all here for example. When one of our players does something completely idiotic, even if he's a great player, the majority of us jump on them with both feet, even though we don't really know him. Why not do this with the kids in our neighborhoods? Why not keep a watchful eye out, and help these kids, that need helping? We can't keep blaming a system, that we all helped to disable, if we aren't willing to do our part to make it work. And in my mind, that means doing more, than just complaining about it, and passing the buck onto the parents, the police, and the politicians.

Couldn't agree more, but the people that make up their communities share the same mentality as the absent minded and unconcerned parents. Not being mean, but it's just how it is.

I don't want to get to into it, because I'll spare my nerves.... but a small example that struck me as interesting (er, obvious) happened a little while back:
a couple teens stole a car and went on a wild and dangerous police chase through the city. When the cops caught up to them, the cops shot them up.. like 50 rounds into them or so. In other words, overkill.... and some might say, not even necessary to shot / kill.

So, what happens...... the church of the community that the kids spawned from, the families and community rallied together, committed all of their focus and energy to fight against the brutality, and unjust actions they felt the police took. hmmmm.....

I'm not speaking on whether voicing their opinion had any validity to it or not.... BUT, here's my point. If they would focus half that much energy and dedication that it takes to be accountable parents and community, they would eliminate this foolishness in the first place. They wasted no time and energy pulling together, rallying, parading and everything when they felt they where wronged... and maybe more importantly, when they felt they were due something do to authorities wrong doings.

It's typically convenient that they get vocal and concerned when they are inconvenienced and felt owed something, but otherwise unconcerned with the day to day development and reliability of their youth.

SaintPauly 04-16-2010 12:59 AM

Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians.
 
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic (Post 218748)
Couldn't agree more, but the people that make up their communities share the same mentality as the absent minded and unconcerned parents. Not being mean, but it's just how it is.

I don't want to get to into it, because I'll spare my nerves.... but a small example that struck me as interesting (er, obvious) happened a little while back:
a couple teens stole a car and went on a wild and dangerous police chase through the city. When the cops caught up to them, the cops shot them up.. like 50 rounds into them or so. In other words, overkill.... and some might say, not even necessary to shot / kill.

So, what happens...... the church of the community that the kids spawned from, the families and community rallied together, committed all of their focus and energy to fight against the brutality, and unjust actions they felt the police took. hmmmm.....

I'm not speaking on whether voicing their opinion had any validity to it or not.... BUT, here's my point. If they would focus half that much energy and dedication that it takes to be accountable parents and community, they would eliminate this foolishness in the first place. They wasted no time and energy pulling together, rallying, parading and everything when they felt they where wronged... and maybe more importantly, when they felt they were due something do to authorities wrong doings.

It's typically convenient that they get vocal and concerned when they are inconvenienced and felt owed something, but otherwise unconcerned with the day to day development and reliability of their youth.

Then I can honestly say, that we both agree for the most part. It's the definition of shame, when a community uses the death of it's own, to gain favor, or possible monetary gain. It's a crying shame.


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