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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by poydras OK, but that goes back to the question I asked earlier. Neither Mitchell nor Casillas are listed as Strong Side Linebackers. With today's specialization, are those positions interchangable? no....SLB needs to be bigger and needs to ...

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Old 04-23-2010, 02:07 PM   #61
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OK, but that goes back to the question I asked earlier. Neither Mitchell nor Casillas are listed as Strong Side Linebackers. With today's specialization, are those positions interchangable?
no....SLB needs to be bigger and needs to be able to control a blocker or secure a tackle

WLB needs to be much faster and better in space

the positions are not interchangeable

however......if you have guys up front to eat blockers, then the SLB does not need to and can try to make plays instead
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OK, but that goes back to the question I asked earlier. Neither Mitchell nor Casillas are listed as Strong Side Linebackers. With today's specialization, are those positions interchangable?
Yes they are interchangeable. the only real difference is you put your more physical guy strong side. There are actually times last year when they would set Fujita away from the strong side or would not shift with the offense. Youi can actually on the Championship DVD hear Vilma saying I think in the Washington game that he was going to set the defense away from the strong side. Of course thats because they were running weak side alot and he wanted the more Physical backer taking on the run
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no....SLB needs to be bigger and needs to be able to control a blocker or secure a tackle

WLB needs to be much faster and better in space

the positions are not interchangeable

however......if you have guys up front to eat blockers, then the SLB does not need to and can try to make plays instead
I guess we need to table this discussion until someone takes cody off the board this evening.
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Yes they are interchangeable. the only real difference is you put your more physical guy strong side. There are actually times last year when they would set Fujita away from the strong side or would not shift with the offense. Youi can actually on the Championship DVD hear Vilma saying I think in the Washington game that he was going to set the defense away from the strong side. Of course thats because they were running weak side alot and he wanted the more Physical backer taking on the run
yeah, and then said "they're comin' back to the bubble." I'm not going to pretend I have any idea what any of that meant.
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I guess we need to table this discussion until someone takes cody off the board this evening.
nah that had nothing to do with cody

just trying to answer the question
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no....SLB needs to be bigger and needs to be able to control a blocker or secure a tackle

WLB needs to be much faster and better in space

the positions are not interchangeable

however......if you have guys up front to eat blockers, then the SLB does not need to and can try to make plays instead
Canton I hate to disagree with you here but speaking as a coach ( I coach High School ) and understand that we are talking night and day , but although youre initial eval as to who you would put on either side is acurate it doesnt mean they arent interchangeable. Weak side will face mis direction runs screens and wheel routes so should have ability to cover. but a line backer is a line backer and should be able to hold his own across the field.
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OK, but that goes back to the question I asked earlier. Neither Mitchell nor Casillas are listed as Strong Side Linebackers. With today's specialization, are those positions interchangable?
Casillas played both SLB and WLB at Wisconsin. He can handle either.
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yeah, and then said "they're comin' back to the bubble." I'm not going to pretend I have any idea what any of that meant.
bubble screen ...running back makes a belly in his route going about 5-7 yards deep in the back field and catches ball heading toward line of scrimmage.
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Canton I hate to disagree with you here but speaking as a coach ( I coach High School ) and understand that we are talking night and day , but although youre initial eval as to who you would put on either side is acurate it doesnt mean they arent interchangeable. Weak side will face mis direction runs screens and wheel routes so should have ability to cover. but a line backer is a line backer and should be able to hold his own across the field.
obviously

however......there are different skill sets and like you said.....the quicker LB usually goes on the weakside and the bigger LB usually goes on the strongside

in high school most people run a 4-4 or a 3-4 or sometimes a 4-2-5

and your positions are limited to the kids available at the school

however.....in the NFL each position is specialized and each player has a specific skill set to match that position

there is a reason players are scouted as a Cover 2 corner or a WLB

they have the skill set to play that position but not necessarily the other man-corner or SLB

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Casillas played both SLB and WLB at Wisconsin. He can handle either.
my point exactly they are interchangeable but i will say it depends totally on the coaches philosophy and his confidence in his backers. have i caused enough confusion now.
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