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rich006 04-23-2010 07:36 PM

Charlie Brown
 
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USC standout earned All-American honors in 2009
CHARLES BROWN
Offensive Tackle
University of Southern California Trojans

#71

6:05.2-292

Chino Hills, California

Diamond Ranch High School


OVERVIEW

The former prep standout tight end has not only grown in size, but also in stature since arriving on campus as a freshman. The two-year starter at the demanding left tackle position, his steady performances in the “trench wars” have many feeling that Brown could be on the cusp of greatness at the next level.


With his long wingspan, massive hands, powerful punch and ability to slide laterally, some experts are likening Brown’s athletic talent to that of Philadelphia’s Winston Justice, a former Trojan who developed into a solid pass protector and drive blocker for the Eagles in 2009. Others compare his athleticism to another former tight end-turned offensive tackle, Baylor’s Jason Smith, the first round selection by the St. Louis Rams in 2009.


Brown attended Diamond Ranch High School, where he was two-way lineman and tight end. He was named to the 2004 Super Prep All-American squad, adding Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tom Lemming All-West, Long Beach Press-Telegram Best of the Rest, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, Cal-Hi Sports All-State, All-CIF Division VIII and Los Angeles Times All-San Gabriel Valley Lineman of the Year honors as a senior.


Brown was listed as the 23rd-best offensive tackle prospect, receiving a three-star rating from Rivals.com. Scout.com regarded him higher as a tight end prospect (10th in the prep ranks), according him four-star prospect status. In his final campaign, he caught fifteen passes for 250 yards and a pair of touchdowns. He also recorded 73 tackles (43 solos) with ten sacks, helping the Panthers compile a 9-3-1 record in his final season, as he also added All-Region, All-Mt. Balty League and All-Southern section accolades.


As a junior, Brown was named to All-League second-team while also earning All-Region recognition. He pulled down fourteen passes for 145 yards and a score, as he also made 41 tackles with four sacks and two fumble recoveries. As a sophomore, he was an All-League first-team pick.


Brown was heavily recruited by most West coast school, but ultimately decided to enroll at Southern California over Oregon and UCLA. He arrived on USC’s campus as a 250-pound tight end, but quickly became a product of the university’s renowned training room. After a year redshirting and concentrating on increasing his strength and bulk, he showed up for 2006 spring drills a solid 285 pounds. Still learning the art of blocking, he would spend that campaign performing mostly on the scout team, but did see brief action in four games at left tackle, serving as All-American Sam Baker’s understudy.


Brown earned his first collegiate start at right tackle in the 2007 season opener vs. Idaho. He would perform in a total of nine games that year, primarily as a back-up at both tackle spots while also performing on special teams, recording a solo tackle vs. Nebraska. He missed the Arizona clash after suffering an ankle sprain in practice leading up to that game and would also miss three other contests before he fully recovered.


With Sam Baker having graduated, Brown was shifted to left offensive tackle in 2008, earning All-Pac 10 Conference honorable mention. With 93 knockdowns and fifteen touch-down-resulting blocks to show for his performance, the Trojans went on to rank 11th in the nation in total offense (454.69 ypg), as the front wall led the Pac-10 in fewest quarterback sacks allowed (1.38 spg).


Brown’s game continued to develop in 2009. Despite struggles with a new quarterback and injuries on the offensive line, he emerged as an All-American and All-Pac 10 Conference first-team selection. The recipient of the Morris Trophy, given to the league’s top blocker, he posted a league-best 87.46% grade for blocking consistency, pacing the Trojans with 100 knockdowns while his fifteen touchdown-resulting blocks also led the league ranks.


CAREER NOTES

Brown started all 26 games at left tackle during his final two seasons, earning his first career starting assignment as a right tackle vs. Idaho in 2007…In his two seasons on the left side, Brown registered 192 knockdowns with 28 touchdown-resulting blocks and thirteen downfield blocks…Was penalized just three times on 1,810 offensive snaps and allowed only five quarterback sacks with no pressures on 851 pass plays.


2009 SEASON

All-American first-team selection by The NFL Draft Report and The Sporting News…All-Pac 10 Conference first-team choice…Became the 14th Trojans to be named the recipient of the Morris Trophy, a unique award given to the outstanding offensive and defensive linemen in the Pacific-10 Conference. What makes the award unique is the selection procedure, which has the starting offensive linemen in the Conference voting for the defensive winner and vice versa. The Morris Trophy is sponsored by the Washington Athletic Club and Athletic Awards of Seattle. It was created by Traci (Morris) Drake in 1980 and named after her father, G. Patrick Morris, who was its sponsor for 29 years…Started all thirteen games at left offensive tackle, leading the team with 100 knockdowns, as his fifteen touchdown-resulting blocks and blocking consistency grade of 87.46% led the league’s down linemen…Allowed just two quarterback sacks on 463 pass plays and was penalized twice on 919 offensive snaps…Graded 90% or better in five contests and had at least eight knockdowns in eight games…Also recovered a fumble vs. Washington.


2008 SEASON

All-Pac 10 Conference honorable mention in his first full season as a starter, taking over left tackle chores for a departed Sam Baker…Graded 83.54% for blocking consistency, delivering 92 knockdowns along with thirteen touchdown-resulting blocks and five down-field blocks, as the Trojans ranked 11th in the nation in total offense (454.69 ypg) and led the Pac-10 in passing (259.85 ypg)…Penalized just once on 891 offensive snaps and was charged with three quarterback sacks on 388 pass plays…Also recorded solo tackle vs. Notre Dame.


2007 SEASON

Brown appeared in nine games as a reserve offensive tackle …Earned his first career start in the season opener vs. Idaho, lining up at right offensive tackle…Also performed on the special team units.


2006 SEASON

Brown spent most of the season as an understudy to Sam Baker at left offensive tackle, but saw just brief action on the offensive line vs. Arkansas, Stanford, Oregon and UCLA…Played in all thirteen contests with the special team units.


2005 SEASON

Brown redshirted as a freshman tight end…Was later switched to offensive tackle in the middle of the season.


CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS

5.16 in the 40-yard dash…1.79 10-yard dash…2.89 20-yard dash…4.64 20-yard shuttle…7.22 three-cone drill…30.5-inch vertical jump…8’7” broad jump…Bench pressed 225 pounds 21 times.


HIGH SCHOOL

Attended Diamond Ranch (Chino Hills, Cal.) High School, playing football for head coach Tom Leach…Competed as a two-way lineman and tight end…Named to the 2004 Super Prep All-American squad, adding Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tom Lemming All-West, Long Beach Press-Telegram Best of the Rest, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, Cal-Hi Sports All-State, All-CIF Division VIII and Los Angeles Times All-San Gabriel Valley Lineman of the Year honors as a senior…Listed as the 23rd-best offensive tackle prospect, receiving a three-star rating from Rivals.com…Scout.com regarded him higher as a tight end prospect (10th in the prep ranks), according him four-star prospect status…In his final campaign, he caught fifteen passes for 250 yards and a pair of touch-downs…Also recorded 73 tackles (43 solos) with ten sacks, helping the Panthers compile a 9-3-1 record in his final season, as he also added All-Region, All-Mt. Balty League and All-Southern section accolades…As a junior, Brown was named to All-League second-team while also earning All-Region recognition…Pulled down fourteen passes for 145 yards and a score, as he also made 41 tackles with four sacks and two fumble recoveries that campaign…As a sophomore, he was an All-League first-team pick.


PERSONAL

Social Science Psychology major…Born 4/10/87 in Chino Hills, California.


Saints Select USC T Charles Brown With 64th Pick



I must admit I was surprised, but in hindsight, shoulda seen it coming.

falconhater 04-23-2010 07:40 PM

What the heck was that...
 
I am at a total loss this 2nd rd pick isnt even NFL ready do we need to draft OL Projects he would have been there in the 7th could have gotten this guy as Mr. Irrelevant...WE need a Line BAcker Griffen was sitting there or a BIG DT. Has the Super Bowl Hangover started in the Front Office???? WOW!!!!!:doh::doh::doh::doh:

BrooksMustGo 04-23-2010 07:40 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
Does this mean, Jammal it's been great knowing you?

cargojon 04-23-2010 07:41 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo (Post 221038)
Does this mean, Jammal it's been great knowing you?

One would have to think Jammal should start looking for property in northern Virginia....but that might be a bit of an assumption...

SmashMouth 04-23-2010 07:41 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo (Post 221038)
Does this mean, Jammal it's been great knowing you?

Exactomundo, my Who Dat friend!

And he graded as a first round talent.

falconhater 04-23-2010 07:41 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo (Post 221038)
Does this mean, Jammal it's been great knowing you?

Absolutely not this kid is no where near NFL ready!!!

cargojon 04-23-2010 07:42 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
The last OL project we got turned out to be Nicks...which worked out rather well.....but he was taken in the 5th IIRC, not the 2nd.

I would think with C. Thomas, Bowman, Griffen on the board we could have gotten someone on the D side that would have contributed more this year that this dude probably will.

Who knows, 3 years from now we may all eat our collective words.

CheramieIII 04-23-2010 07:43 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
But with Bushrod holding down the position it will give the kid time to develop and JB is headed to Washington for Haynesworth.

SaintPauly 04-23-2010 07:43 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
So long Jammal. I'm surprised, we take a CB in the first round, and everyone says, "Sharper shoulda signed when he had the chance." Now Jammal is in the same boat. "Shoulda signed when you had the chance Jammal, SEE YA."

CheramieIII 04-23-2010 07:45 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
ditto those sentiments but think about Jamal Brown for Haynesworth and it makes sense. I hope we don't give up anything else in that deal.

cargojon 04-23-2010 07:46 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
We're playing Steelers draft. Draft players that play positions you're already strong in early, and develop talent for the other positions.

This is how teams build for legacies. That said, i'd still prefer more "sexy" pickes like LB and DL.

Rugby Saint II 04-23-2010 07:46 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
I'm glad that Lucy doesn't hold for Brown to kick.

SaintPauly 04-23-2010 07:47 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
J. Brown, in my opinion, is pulling the exact same "stunt" as you guys have called it, that Sharper is doing. He wants a fat new contract, and the front office isn't going to give it to him. J. Brown, is gone. Maybe not right now, but soon. He had his chance to sign too. What was said about Sharper, THAT ACTUALLY PLAYED DURING OUR SUPERBOWL SEASON BY THE WAY, was that "no one player is bigger than the team." Well, say hello to our future T folks.

st thomas 04-23-2010 07:48 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
all this means is stanly arnoux is ready guys. getting ol backup is'snt all that bad

falconhater 04-23-2010 07:49 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 221055)
J. Brown, in my opinion, is pulling the exact same "stunt" as you guys have called it, that Sharper is doing. He wants a fat new contract, and the front office isn't going to give it to him. J. Brown, is gone. Maybe not right now, but soon. He had his chance to sign too. What was said about Sharper, THAT ACTUALLY PLAYED DURING OUR SUPERBOWL SEASON BY THE WAY, was that "no one player is bigger than the team." Well, say hello to our future T folks.

This kid is 3 years from being a back up and he has multiple injury issues. he will never stay on the field.

CantonLegend 04-23-2010 07:49 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
disappointed in this draft so far

we dont move up and get players we want so we sit back and take whats left

then we take players that dont fill the teams biggest needs and who definitly are not the BPA.....very confused by this draft so far

CantonLegend 04-23-2010 07:50 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
you guys are way too excited for jermon bushrod

maybe its him who is on the trade block

would make a lot more sense than jammal brown

cargojon 04-23-2010 07:52 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 221059)
disappointed in this draft so far

we dont move up and get players we want so we sit back and take whats left

then we take players that dont fill the teams biggest needs and who definitly are not the BPA.....very confused by this draft so far

Have to agree. I don't mind the CB quite so much given that Spoon was gone - but this OL pick is really quirky IMO.

falconhater 04-23-2010 07:54 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 221059)
disappointed in this draft so far

we dont move up and get players we want so we sit back and take whats left

then we take players that dont fill the teams biggest needs and who definitly are not the BPA.....very confused by this draft so far

Agree whole heartedly with you canton this is SuperBowl Hangover Front Office style. All I can Say is WOW!!!!

SaintPauly 04-23-2010 07:54 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falconhater (Post 221058)
This kid is 3 years from being a back up and he has multiple injury issues. he will never stay on the field.

Ok, so we are all going to question our scouts, and coaching staff now? The guys who just won us a superbowl....... I just wanted to know which way to lean here.....

By the way, Mr. J Brown has had his share of injuries as well.

SmashMouth 04-23-2010 07:55 PM

Re: Saints Select USC T Charles Brown With 64th Pick
 
Virtually NO HOLDING calls.... NICE!

cargojon 04-23-2010 07:55 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Hey, we could be the Steelers - have 2 pro bowl OLB's on your team and draft an OLB.....

CantonLegend 04-23-2010 07:55 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 221071)
Ok, so we are all going to question our scouts, and coaching staff now? The guys who just won us a superbowl....... I just wanted to know which way to lean here.....

By the way, Mr. J Brown has had his share of injuries as well.

this scouting department and coaching staff has a lot of success in the later rounds.....but not a ton of success in our early rounds

ScottF 04-23-2010 07:56 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
We added two DE's, so I am not too disappointed we are adding depth, but I really hope we pick a linebacker in 3

cargojon 04-23-2010 07:57 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 221077)
We added two DE's, so I am not too disappointed we are adding depth, but I really hope we pick a linebacker in 3

At this rate Navarro Bowman might be available in the 3rd the way these picks keep flying by.

SaintPauly 04-23-2010 07:58 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Soooo, a championship is not alot of success, on grading talent..... I'm just messing with you CL. I don't know what they are doing, but this is what they do for a living. If I'm looking to unclog a drain, I call a plumber. If I need NFL players, I will have to call Loomis...

woody 04-23-2010 07:58 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
this is alright to me, i don't think stinchcomb or bushrod are that great, and sounds like jamaal brown may be gone soon.

papz 04-23-2010 08:02 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
I was hoping for Griffin right there but value wise, Brown was right there with him and I guess you can never have enough quality OL. If we can manage to get Haynesworth for Brown, then this move would make a lot more sense.

SaintPauly 04-23-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Saints Select USC T Charles Brown With 64th Pick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 221073)
Virtually NO HOLDING calls.... NICE!

No smash, you're thinking of the OTHER LT with the last name Brown....

CantonLegend 04-23-2010 08:03 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 221080)
Soooo, a championship is not alot of success, on grading talent..... I'm just messing with you CL. I don't know what they are doing, but this is what they do for a living. If I'm looking to unclog a drain, I call a plumber. If I need NFL players, I will have to call Loomis...

a superbowl and the first few picks in the draft are different things

you can put together a super bowl team without the past few first rounders

really the only one of significance was ellis.....the others have produced so-so

Tobias-Reiper 04-23-2010 08:05 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
2 Things:

1.- The Saints still have Arnaux and Vaughn (LB + S)
2.- Sweetness' daughter is sweet!!

CantonLegend 04-23-2010 08:05 PM

Re: Saints Select USC T Charles Brown With 64th Pick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 221088)
No smash, you're thinking of the OTHER LT with the last name Brown....

brown had 7 holding penalties vs 635 pass attempts

nothing wrong with that at all

cargojon 04-23-2010 08:06 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 221090)
2 Things:

1.- The Saints still have Arnaux and Vaughn (LB + S)
2.- Sweetness' daughter is sweet!!

Yeah little miss Payton is a hottie, isn't she?

voodooido 04-23-2010 08:07 PM

Re: Saints Select USC T Charles Brown With 64th Pick
 
makes me think brown is out the door. Brown for Albert and a lb is not a bad deal. Lets see if it happens.

Damnit, there goes Chad Jones.

falconhater 04-23-2010 08:09 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 221071)
Ok, so we are all going to question our scouts, and coaching staff now? The guys who just won us a superbowl....... I just wanted to know which way to lean here.....

By the way, Mr. J Brown has had his share of injuries as well.

exactly so why bring another injury bug into the fold when we NEED TO STOP THE RUN... MInnesota picked up a BEast of a power running back , Dallas has Felix Jones, We dont improve against the run our Title run will end quickly

st thomas 04-23-2010 08:11 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
gees colt mccoy still there

cargojon 04-23-2010 08:13 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 221101)
gees colt mccoy still there

Not for long - I say the niners take him.


EDITED - OK I was wrong LOL

biloxi-indian 04-23-2010 08:13 PM

Re: What the heck was that...
 
Message to J. Brown, meet your replacement..Mr. C. Brown!

stockman311 04-23-2010 08:14 PM

Re: Charlie Brown
 
Loomis just interviewed and said they weren't planning on OT this early but Brown was BPA BY FAR on the board ala Will Smith/Deuce McAllister. He also said they have no plans of trading Jammal Brown. All you Haynesworth hangers on can forget about it. Not happening. Strief, Bushrod, Brown all in last years of contracts so you can expect one or two of those three to be bye bye next year.
Can't say I like the pick but I want to win short term and Loomis and Payton are paid to think long term. They are following the Colts Patriots model.

biloxi-indian 04-23-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Saints Select USC T Charles Brown With 64th Pick
 
As I said in a previous link...J. Brown meet your replacement Mr. C. Brown!

It is not polite to bite the hand that feeds you!


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