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SAINT_MICHAEL 05-30-2010 02:34 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas holdout
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 228093)
Hopefully this is just a little posturing by his agent during a slow time of the year. I can't see any team giving him that kind of money.

Good point. This is similar to Sharper's situation. No one was going to give him the franchise tag money he started out asking for. I don't see anyone giving PT this kind of money either.

CheramieIII 05-30-2010 07:18 AM

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Look this salary crap is getting outrageous. Yeah they can get hurt but a million a year should make up for that right? I mean if I made a million dollars 4 years in a row I could retire comfortably and never smell bankruptcy court where some of these guys end up. Look I love Pierre but enough is enough. He's not the centerpiece of the offense so enough said. Let's pick someone up as insurance; Jamaal Lewis, Justin Fargas or Brian Westbrook and then draft someone in the first round next year. We don't need to break the bank on this guy and as I've said before he really hasn't proven he can do it long haul and he will never get 25 carries a game.

subguy 05-30-2010 07:56 AM

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While I can't blame him for wanting that kind of money, it is crazy and won't happen

CantonLegend 05-30-2010 12:11 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas holdout
 
any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team

hitta 06-01-2010 11:56 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas holdout
 
Players want to get paid, can't blame them; but seriously if he honestly thinks hes gonna get that kind of salary from ANY team, he is crazy.

saintfan 06-01-2010 12:01 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas holdout
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 228105)
any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team

In my heart I'm with you on this - that's what they told us in Little league. If you don't practice with the team you sit.

Well, once you make the NFL - especially as a RB - you have a small window inside which you have to make the best deal(s) you can - and they'll cut you in a heartbeat, so you might as well squeeze the orange for all the juice you can get while you have the chance. I hate to see PT sitting out, but I think he has a valid argument with the organization, which is not to say he needs to be paid like the highest paid RB in the league, but I bet he'd settle for less.

Saint_LB 06-01-2010 12:09 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas holdout
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 228105)
any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team

Au contraire...

It is my opinion that when you are playing for a team that is part of a business, then people must let business play a part in their decisions.

In other words, if he was part of a weekly bowling league and decided to not show-up because he'd have to miss the new episode of "Family Guy"...then, yeah...he sits.

CantonLegend 06-01-2010 03:12 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas holdout
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 228329)
In my heart I'm with you on this - that's what they told us in Little league. If you don't practice with the team you sit.

Well, once you make the NFL - especially as a RB - you have a small window inside which you have to make the best deal(s) you can - and they'll cut you in a heartbeat, so you might as well squeeze the orange for all the juice you can get while you have the chance. I hate to see PT sitting out, but I think he has a valid argument with the organization, which is not to say he needs to be paid like the highest paid RB in the league, but I bet he'd settle for less.

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 228330)
Au contraire...

It is my opinion that when you are playing for a team that is part of a business, then people must let business play a part in their decisions.

In other words, if he was part of a weekly bowling league and decided to not show-up because he'd have to miss the new episode of "Family Guy"...then, yeah...he sits.

ok.....as a business.....would a boss give you a bigger raise if you threatened not to come in.....or if you busted your butt everyday doing your job?

strato 06-01-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 228382)
ok.....as a business.....would a boss give you a bigger raise if you threatened not to come in.....or if you busted your butt everyday doing your job?

Good point Canton...P.T needs to get his butt to camp...i dont think this Front Office plays around...he could get his walkin papers if he wants that kind of money...Loomis will not give him that deal...bank on it...5 yrs at say 25 mill sounds about right...

SapperSaint 06-01-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 228085)
somewhere around 30 mil. with 10 up front.

AGREED! More than reasonable paycheck for PT.


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