Pierre Thomas holdout

SAINT_MICHAEL · 05-30-2010, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Hopefully this is just a little posturing by his agent during a slow time of the year. I can't see any team giving him that kind of money.

Good point. This is similar to Sharper's situation. No one was going to give him the franchise tag money he started out asking for. I don't see anyone giving PT this kind of money either.

CheramieIII · 05-30-2010, 07:18 AM

Look this salary crap is getting outrageous. Yeah they can get hurt but a million a year should make up for that right? I mean if I made a million dollars 4 years in a row I could retire comfortably and never smell bankruptcy court where some of these guys end up. Look I love Pierre but enough is enough. He's not the centerpiece of the offense so enough said. Let's pick someone up as insurance; Jamaal Lewis, Justin Fargas or Brian Westbrook and then draft someone in the first round next year. We don't need to break the bank on this guy and as I've said before he really hasn't proven he can do it long haul and he will never get 25 carries a game.

subguy · 05-30-2010, 07:56 AM

While I can't blame him for wanting that kind of money, it is crazy and won't happen

CantonLegend · 05-30-2010, 12:11 PM

any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team

hitta · 06-01-2010, 11:56 AM

Players want to get paid, can't blame them; but seriously if he honestly thinks hes gonna get that kind of salary from ANY team, he is crazy.

saintfan · 06-01-2010, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team

In my heart I'm with you on this - that's what they told us in Little league. If you don't practice with the team you sit.

Well, once you make the NFL - especially as a RB - you have a small window inside which you have to make the best deal(s) you can - and they'll cut you in a heartbeat, so you might as well squeeze the orange for all the juice you can get while you have the chance. I hate to see PT sitting out, but I think he has a valid argument with the organization, which is not to say he needs to be paid like the highest paid RB in the league, but I bet he'd settle for less.

Saint_LB · 06-01-2010, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team

Au contraire...

It is my opinion that when you are playing for a team that is part of a business, then people must let business play a part in their decisions.

In other words, if he was part of a weekly bowling league and decided to not show-up because he'd have to miss the new episode of "Family Guy"...then, yeah...he sits.

CantonLegend · 06-01-2010, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

In my heart I'm with you on this - that's what they told us in Little league. If you don't practice with the team you sit.

Well, once you make the NFL - especially as a RB - you have a small window inside which you have to make the best deal(s) you can - and they'll cut you in a heartbeat, so you might as well squeeze the orange for all the juice you can get while you have the chance. I hate to see PT sitting out, but I think he has a valid argument with the organization, which is not to say he needs to be paid like the highest paid RB in the league, but I bet he'd settle for less.

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Au contraire...

It is my opinion that when you are playing for a team that is part of a business, then people must let business play a part in their decisions.

In other words, if he was part of a weekly bowling league and decided to not show-up because he'd have to miss the new episode of "Family Guy"...then, yeah...he sits.

ok.....as a business.....would a boss give you a bigger raise if you threatened not to come in.....or if you busted your butt everyday doing your job?

strato · 06-01-2010, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

ok.....as a business.....would a boss give you a bigger raise if you threatened not to come in.....or if you busted your butt everyday doing your job?

Good point Canton...P.T needs to get his butt to camp...i dont think this Front Office plays around...he could get his walkin papers if he wants that kind of money...Loomis will not give him that deal...bank on it...5 yrs at say 25 mill sounds about right...

SapperSaint · 06-01-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

somewhere around 30 mil. with 10 up front.

AGREED! More than reasonable paycheck for PT.

05-30-2010, 02:34 AM	#31
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Originally Posted by neugey Hopefully this is just a little posturing by his agent during a slow time of the year. I can't see any team giving him that kind of money. Good point. This is similar to Sharper's situation. No one was going to give him the franchise tag money he started out asking for. I don't see anyone giving PT this kind of money either.
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05-30-2010, 07:18 AM	#32
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Look this salary crap is getting outrageous. Yeah they can get hurt but a million a year should make up for that right? I mean if I made a million dollars 4 years in a row I could retire comfortably and never smell bankruptcy court where some of these guys end up. Look I love Pierre but enough is enough. He's not the centerpiece of the offense so enough said. Let's pick someone up as insurance; Jamaal Lewis, Justin Fargas or Brian Westbrook and then draft someone in the first round next year. We don't need to break the bank on this guy and as I've said before he really hasn't proven he can do it long haul and he will never get 25 carries a game.
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05-30-2010, 07:56 AM	#33
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,057	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout While I can't blame him for wanting that kind of money, it is crazy and won't happen

05-30-2010, 12:11 PM	#34
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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,300	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Players want to get paid, can't blame them; but seriously if he honestly thinks hes gonna get that kind of salary from ANY team, he is crazy.
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06-01-2010, 12:01 PM	#36
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Originally Posted by CantonLegend any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team In my heart I'm with you on this - that's what they told us in Little league. If you don't practice with the team you sit. Well, once you make the NFL - especially as a RB - you have a small window inside which you have to make the best deal(s) you can - and they'll cut you in a heartbeat, so you might as well squeeze the orange for all the juice you can get while you have the chance. I hate to see PT sitting out, but I think he has a valid argument with the organization, which is not to say he needs to be paid like the highest paid RB in the league, but I bet he'd settle for less.
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06-01-2010, 12:09 PM	#37
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Originally Posted by CantonLegend any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team Au contraire... It is my opinion that when you are playing for a team that is part of a business, then people must let business play a part in their decisions. In other words, if he was part of a weekly bowling league and decided to not show-up because he'd have to miss the new episode of "Family Guy"...then, yeah...he sits.
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06-01-2010, 03:12 PM	#38
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Originally Posted by saintfan In my heart I'm with you on this - that's what they told us in Little league. If you don't practice with the team you sit. Well, once you make the NFL - especially as a RB - you have a small window inside which you have to make the best deal(s) you can - and they'll cut you in a heartbeat, so you might as well squeeze the orange for all the juice you can get while you have the chance. I hate to see PT sitting out, but I think he has a valid argument with the organization, which is not to say he needs to be paid like the highest paid RB in the league, but I bet he'd settle for less. Originally Posted by Saint_LB Au contraire... It is my opinion that when you are playing for a team that is part of a business, then people must let business play a part in their decisions. In other words, if he was part of a weekly bowling league and decided to not show-up because he'd have to miss the new episode of "Family Guy"...then, yeah...he sits. ok.....as a business.....would a boss give you a bigger raise if you threatened not to come in.....or if you busted your butt everyday doing your job?

06-01-2010, 03:15 PM	#39
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Originally Posted by CantonLegend ok.....as a business.....would a boss give you a bigger raise if you threatened not to come in.....or if you busted your butt everyday doing your job? Good point Canton...P.T needs to get his butt to camp...i dont think this Front Office plays around...he could get his walkin papers if he wants that kind of money...Loomis will not give him that deal...bank on it...5 yrs at say 25 mill sounds about right...

06-01-2010, 03:17 PM	#40
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Pierre Thomas holdout Originally Posted by st thomas somewhere around 30 mil. with 10 up front. AGREED! More than reasonable paycheck for PT.

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