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Saintswrath 06-02-2010 10:55 AM

Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Thinking ahead into the 2010 season, i was reading on several sites basically saying Saints were lucky to have RB's that pretty much can just relieve each other, but we basically have no one really significant..
Instead of getting angry about that because ahem.. we kinda ARE the world champions and stuff like that :) but i'd rather get fan's feedback on who you think will be the Saints Running back that will set the field on fire this year and become that Back we've always wanted..

Will it be Reggie or Pierre or will there be an unsung hero coming out of no where .... again?

papz 06-02-2010 11:00 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
I would say Pierre has the best chance at it because he gets more touches back there than anyone else. With that said, does it really matter if we have a 1,000 back? It's not like we need one to win a Superbowl. I'm absolutely fine with the way we've been running things on offense(as mostly everyone should be)... if it happens, great. If it doesn't, it wouldn't be a big deal.

I'll take option D - None of the above.

strato 06-02-2010 11:03 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
I agree...Rushing yrds by committee seems to work for us..that said P.T would have the best chance as stated above...What if Reggie did it...would that shut up the naysayers?

saintfan 06-02-2010 11:59 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
I just don't see us having a 1000 yard rusher. Sean is pass-happy and Brees is just too good. We need only run enough to make teams think we might.

That said, if we DO have a 1000 yard rusher, it'll be PT.

darstep 06-02-2010 12:57 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
With Brees hitting the 40 throw mark several times during the season, I don't think it will happen. PT gets the most touches and that's only about 12 per game. Duece hit 1000 with nearly 20 per game. None of our backs will average 20 per game with Brees doing what he does. They may have 1000+ all purpose yards, but on the ground, 600-800 tops.

foreverfan 06-02-2010 03:19 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Err.. no wasn't an option?

SAINT_MICHAEL 06-02-2010 04:09 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
I say it will be Morestead....just to mess with Danno.

st thomas 06-02-2010 04:44 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
i took pt but, if, and is it p.j. hill that will bell it up this season

CantonLegend 06-02-2010 06:36 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
no.....we went away from the run late in the season and it hurt us

the other 3 seasons under payton we were a prodominantly passing team with deuce barely eclipsing 1000 yards and i dont see us having near a 1000 yard rusher anytime soon

id love to see us pound the ball and control the clock a little more and force other teams to play a little defense

but our team just doesnt do that

Saintswrath 06-02-2010 07:15 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 228638)
Err.. no wasn't an option?

added

Danno 06-02-2010 08:45 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Pierre Thomas.

Bush gets hurt yet again, and PT is given the bulk of the carries and just nudges past 1,000 yards, and makes the pro-bowl.

All Pierre needed last season was a measly 12 yards more per game, which is just over 2 more carries per game.

Saint_LB 06-02-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 228672)
Pierre Thomas.

Bush gets hurt yet again, and PT is given the bulk of the carries and just nudges past 1,000 yards, and makes the pro-bowl.

All Pierre needed last season was a measly 12 yards more per game, which is just over 2 more carries per game.

Just 12/game, huh. That equates to...what?...192 yds? That wouldn't be close even if you were playing horseshoes...or even TNW. (well...maybe)
Remember when Danno use to be right about everything? What happened to those days?

HintOfLogic 06-03-2010 03:05 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 228672)
Pierre Thomas.

Bush gets hurt yet again, and PT is given the bulk of the carries and just nudges past 1,000 yards, and makes the pro-bowl.

All Pierre needed last season was a measly 12 yards more per game, which is just over 2 more carries per game.


I'll go with that.....

Danno 06-03-2010 07:35 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 228683)
Just 12/game, huh. That equates to...what?...192 yds? That wouldn't be close even if you were playing horseshoes...or even TNW. (well...maybe)
Remember when Danno use to be right about everything? What happened to those days?

I'm still right LB. You aren't paying attention again.

Pierre Thomas 2009 - 793 yards, (or 207 yards short of 1,000 yards)

OK, so its actually 12.9 yard more per game, which like I said is just over 2 more carries per game.

CantonLegend 06-03-2010 09:08 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 228716)
I'm still right LB. You aren't paying attention again.

Pierre Thomas 2009 - 793 yards, (or 207 yards short of 1,000 yards)

OK, so its actually 12.9 yard more per game, which like I said is just over 2 more carries per game.

assuming he ran for his average yards per carry on those 3 extra carries

which by the way.....just over 2......is 3 lol

also.....you know what they say about assuming

Cruize 06-03-2010 09:08 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Passing offense. Running game by committee. Backs with durability issues. No 1000 yard rusher.

Saintswrath 06-03-2010 09:14 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Who knows, since we already accomplished the greatest goal in football, maybe Sean Payton may change things up a bit and go more toward the ground, especially since Bree's will now be a walking target, Drew has nothing to prove anymore, But Sean Payton can prove to all he's not strictly an air guy and can switch it up and ground play like any other great team, this coach has proven he's not as stupid or predictable as we all might think he is.

SaintFanInATLHELL 06-03-2010 10:42 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 228654)
no.....we went away from the run late in the season and it hurt us

the other 3 seasons under payton we were a prodominantly passing team with deuce barely eclipsing 1000 yards and i dont see us having near a 1000 yard rusher anytime soon

id love to see us pound the ball and control the clock a little more and force other teams to play a little defense

but our team just doesnt do that

And I believe with good reason. Today's NFL is built for the passing game. You can see it in the numbers. Let's check out Brees' passing numbers last year (from NFL.com):

Player: Drew Brees

Attemps: 514
Completions: 363
Yards: 4388
Comp %age: 70.6 (NFL Record!)
Yards/Att: 8.5
TDs: 34
TD %age: 6.6
INTs: 11
INT %age: 2.1
QB rating: 109.6

Overall these stats show a ball control offense. The high completion %age and number of TDs, along with the Yards/Att indicate that the Saints offense, get the ball, keep the ball, and put the ball into the endzone. The 11 INTs show that they don't turn the ball over much.

QBs are ultra accurate. Receivers cannot be touched. There are only a few D. Revis type players in the league. You can pick on the rest all day long.

The running game is a complement. Keeps the D-line from just rushing up the field and creates indecision with the linebackers. Also creates play action opportunities. So you need the balance, I agree. But there's no need for 3 yards and a cloud of dust type rushing attack in today's NFL anymore.

8.6 yards per attempt. Over 12 yards per completion.

Passing is the way to move the ball as long as the QB is accurate, protects the ball, and the line can protect him.

And the vast majority of the time, that's exactly what the Saints offense does.

So no 1000 yard back. And no need for one.

SFIAH

diamond12 06-03-2010 02:53 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Due to the offensive scheme and its complexity----it would be difficult for anyone to gain a thousand yard on the ground individually.....the ball is distributed to too many players...But thats whatt sweet about it...cause it works.

st thomas 06-03-2010 03:21 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 228741)
assuming he ran for his average yards per carry on those 3 extra carries

which by the way.....just over 2......is 3 lol

also.....you know what they say about assuming

we've seen it with p.t. with bush and m. bell those extra carries cause's more pounding and more fitigue and more fumbles. not saying we lost all of them but i know i've seen bell pounding the rock like crazy so payton keeps calling his no# and then poop theres the ball on the ground. going to the well to often cause's fumbles i know u guy's saw it like i did with all our backs specially bush. will hand it over. they all need breaks and if that keeps them from 2 more carries and there 1000 yards so be it.

Saint_LB 06-03-2010 03:29 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
I don't think 1K yds. means as much nowadays as it did when they only played 14, anyway.

Rugby Saint II 06-03-2010 04:48 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 228773)
I don't think 1K yds. means as much nowadays as it did when they only played 14, anyway.

Well said! :stupid:

Danno 06-03-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 228773)
I don't think 1K yds. means as much nowadays as it did when they only played 14, anyway.

Which is why PT will probably surpass it. 63 yards per game isn't that difficult, and PT should get a few more carries per game. I think he breaks it.

1,600 Yards should be the new milestone for a bonafied stud season rushing.

papz 06-03-2010 06:05 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
With the way Reggie was running towards the second half of last year, I think his carries increase having Thomas fall just shy of the mark.

st thomas 06-03-2010 07:36 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
if he gets the fat contract i would'nt be suprized if they add the carries to his role

CantonLegend 06-03-2010 08:28 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 228817)
if he gets the fat contract i would'nt be suprized if they add the carries to his role

the way things go for us.....if he gets a fat contract i wouldnt be surprised if he tears his ACL in training camp

Pete 06-03-2010 11:10 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 228744)
Who knows, since we already accomplished the greatest goal in football, maybe Sean Payton may change things up a bit and go more toward the ground, especially since Bree's will now be a walking target, Drew has nothing to prove anymore, But Sean Payton can prove to all he's not strictly an air guy and can switch it up and ground play like any other great team, this coach has proven he's not as stupid or predictable as we all might think he is.

Faith in Payton! +1

foreverfan 06-06-2010 10:42 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
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QBREES9 06-06-2010 02:44 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Ok who's are running back this year ??? Pierre coming back or Lynell Hamilton

Saint_LB 06-09-2010 07:19 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 229113)
Ok who's are running back this year ??? Pierre coming back or Lynell Hamilton

yes

homerj07 06-09-2010 10:40 AM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
PT has the ability but we use a 3 headed monster!! Given the carries PT can BUT I think SP continues to spilit carries among RB, PT & LH.

hitta 06-11-2010 09:04 PM

Re: Will the Saints have a running back rush for over 1,000 yards this regular season? If so, who will it be?
 
Pierre Thomas is the most likely. He shares carries with other backs so much though that considering him the "feature back" is not exactly accurate. I think he can get close, but may fall just short. I think Bush could definitely have a big year where he averages 5+ yds a carry, but Bush gets so many touches in other parts of the game that handing off to him enough for 1000 yds may be a bit much. I think Bush could get 600-800 yds(though towards the 800 side may be pushing it) on a good year(in the way we use him). If he was used like a regular every down back maybe.

For some reason I have a feeling that our running game is gonna be used more even than it was last year. Our offense was the best when we were feeding the backs consistently.


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