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SmashMouth 06-03-2010 08:27 AM

So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
NFL should get rid of new overtime format in*playoffs - Ross Tucker - SI.com

Evidently, many outside of the BnG also dislike it. I, for one, don't agree with it. But it'll be kinda fun to see it characterized and defended by those in the media. We all know it was enacted due to the Saints' success this post season. I personally think teams will attempt to score TD's now, rather than fieldgoals. This advantages the Saints once again, IMHO. Will they change the rules again at the completion of this upcoming season as a result?

CantonLegend 06-03-2010 09:04 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
i only dislike it because they made a rule so favre could get another chance

i dont care that they tweaked the OT rules.....i dont care if they have separate ones for the playoffs and the regular season.....but there cant be a rule change everytime a fan favorite gets beat or makes the wrong play

its not protecting the integrity of the game...its protecting the stars and thats not what football is about

special teams is a huge part of every game......garrett hartley wasnt guaranteed to make that kick and neither is any other kicker.....so why take a kicker out of the game almost completely when the game is on the line? are they not part of the team? are they not required to do their part to win a game?

B005TED 06-03-2010 10:00 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 228738)
i only dislike it because they made a rule so favre could get another chance

i dont care that they tweaked the OT rules.....i dont care if they have separate ones for the playoffs and the regular season.....but there cant be a rule change everytime a fan favorite gets beat or makes the wrong play

its not protecting the integrity of the game...its protecting the stars and thats not what football is about

special teams is a huge part of every game......garrett hartley wasnt guaranteed to make that kick and neither is any other kicker.....so why take a kicker out of the game almost completely when the game is on the line? are they not part of the team? are they not required to do their part to win a game?


Exactly.

spkb25 06-03-2010 11:37 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
I don't man, and to be honest I love sudden death. Maybe they should eliminate kicks from OT, meaning the kickoff, and if you want the ball you have to start at your 20- this way you actually have to drive 50 yards to have a shot at a long FG, but I don't like that stupid junk.

Papa Voodoo 06-03-2010 12:27 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
It's silly and for girlie teams

ScottF 06-03-2010 04:13 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
I don't mind it- in the regular season in the past couple of years it would have been nice to have.

I don't think you'll see a real significant difference in the outcomes. So you kick your field goal, and then you have to play defense, just like a tied game in the last 3-4 minutes. What are the odds the trailing team will drive and score? And if they kick a FG, the team that was leading gets the ball back anyway.

I predict that only ONCE in the next 3 years the rule even comes into play.




It will be Super Bowl 47. Jeff Reed just put Pitt ahead, and is kicking off. Roby, now more popular than the beer man, brings it back 98 yards for the touchdown and 4th consecutive world championship. The rules committee scrambles for another new rule change.

Rugby Saint II 06-03-2010 04:23 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
It doesn't really bother me because we can score at will.

SAINT_MICHAEL 06-03-2010 04:35 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
I think it is the stupidest/worst/idiotic descisions in the history of (all) sports. It has nothing to do with being a Saints fan or how it impacts us. It's that there is no logic as to the way they've decided to go.

skymike 06-03-2010 04:38 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
The Hartley Rule? I definitely dont like it, as I dont like rules changes to start with. The rules were fine in 1981, and they didnt need to change anything. I hate change for the sake of change.

Also, I think it needlessly complicates a game already filled with too many rules. One thing baseball has over football, is the timelessness of its rules. Mostly, I think its crybaby crap. I would tell my team, if you dont want to lose in OT from a coin toss, you can either 1. play defense, or 2. win the damn game in regulation.

I could be wrong.

iceshack149 06-03-2010 04:39 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
The rule change itself doesn't bother me so much. What bothers me is that the rules are different after the post season starts. Seems silly.

pumpkindriver 06-03-2010 04:40 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
Personally I hate the new OT rule. Only aproximately 37% of the teams receiving the kick off score on their 1st. OT posession. Its nothing more than pandering to the crybabies that whine, "its not fair for OT to be decided on the flip of a coin", which, btw, its not. IMO OT should pick up right where regulation ends, with whoever has the ball at that time, same down , same position on the field and then sudden death. The commissioner and the owners are weaklings for caving into fan and media pressure on this.

strato 06-03-2010 04:49 PM

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Hate it..they are trying to stop the jaugernaut that is the NewOrleans Saints...

foreverfan 06-03-2010 04:55 PM

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st thomas 06-03-2010 05:12 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
just did'nt like them tweaking the rule because the saints beat the whinners in minnsota, which probably won't have a team in a couple of years.

Budsdrinker 06-04-2010 07:58 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
I still say play a 7 minute quarter just like it was regulation. If the receiving team can hold on to the ball for 7 minutes more power to them but for the most part this should allow for each team to have 1 possession. After the 7 minutes if the score is still tied the game ends in a tie unless it is the playoffs and then you continue the same format. Just my opinion.

SmashMouth 06-04-2010 08:06 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 228893)
I still say play a 7 minute quarter just like it was regulation. If the receiving team can hold on to the ball for 7 minutes more power to them but for the most part this should allow for each team to have 1 possession. After the 7 minutes if the score is still tied the game ends in a tie unless it is the playoffs and then you continue the same format. Just my opinion.

I kinda like the-play-till-you-drop format you just referenced. If the team has good depth, it'll likely show. Unfortunately, it tough to please all in this made-for-tv sport.

QBREES9 06-05-2010 09:52 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
I think it stinks !!!! Dam you had 60mins to win the dam game why in gods name do you need this. Stupid !! Don't like it.

Thats why its called Sudden Death. The coin toss is fair.... Leave it alone. But thats just me.

skymike 06-07-2010 04:29 PM

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good point QBREES. You know a coin toss can decide a division winner or a wildcard. (see tiebreaker rules) So they should quit their whining, and win the game in regluation.

VillainAgain 06-07-2010 06:13 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
the only overtime rule change I'd make is no draws 1 team wins 1 team looses. go sudden death college FB style start at the 50 4 downs to score only 1 first down per series

skymike 06-08-2010 04:30 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
naaa. we had ties in the old days, and we were just fine.

CheramieIII 06-08-2010 05:43 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
The only reason they changed it is because Baby Brett didn't make the Superbowl. Watch it will backfire on them this year and we'll make it in beccause we get the ball after the Packers. You heard it hear first folks we beat Green Bay 33-31 in overtime to advance to the Superbowl and we beat the Bengals

hitta 06-08-2010 05:49 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
I thought it was stupid that they did it just because of Favre.

I think the rule needed to be changed though to something more balanced and unbiased, and not revolving around a coin flip. I do not like what they changed it to.

VillainAgain 06-08-2010 06:08 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 229397)
naaa. we had ties in the old days, and we were just fine.

Hence the idea of a rule change

9thWardDesire 06-08-2010 07:10 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
I bet if Favre had not thrown that pick or if Hartley would have missed that kick, It wouldn't have been an issue. Period. I remember when nobody gave a rat's posterior about New England prior to Tom Brady. Ever since Brady took over for Drew Deadslow, they treat the Patriots like they're the '72 Dolphins.

For the exact same reason why the NCAA wants the major conferences to win the National Championship with the BCS, they want their stars to have their chance because it's marketable. Just like the NBA (and just about every talking head) wanted to see a LaBron/Kobe matchup. Don't get me wrong, it would have been great to see, but come the (WHAT?) on. How is the NFL's OT rule suppose to protect the integrity of the game when there's money involved? Mr. Goodell, I can see through you, potnah!!!

BRETT FAVRE (In Li'l Wayne's 'autotuned' voice):"I had done something just now that I have done the past years
and it was telling
My pass got picked off and the other team kicked a field goal in OT
Announcers and the fans were yelling, "WHAT R U DOIN, WHAT R U DOIN'??"
Oh yeah, I just lost to the Saints
...like that Giants game up in Lambeau when I played for Green Bay
Everybody sayin "IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER! OH YES, FAVRE, IT'S OVER!!!"
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m...BrettFavre.jpg

Saint_LB 06-09-2010 12:24 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 229409)
The only reason they changed it is because Baby Brett didn't make the Superbowl. Watch it will backfire on them this year and we'll make it in beccause we get the ball after the Packers. You heard it hear first folks we beat Green Bay 33-31 in overtime to advance to the Superbowl and we beat the Bengals

I was agreeing right up until the end there...

SaintGup 06-09-2010 03:19 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 228790)
[COLOR=red]The Hartley Rule? [COLOR=black]
I would tell my team, if you dont want to lose in OT from a coin toss, you can either 1. play defense, or 2. win the damn game in regulation.

I could be wrong.

I totally agree. The problem is, it has been said that a large percentage of teams that get the ball first win the game BUT it doesn't necessarily mean they won it on the first possession. The overtime rule does take away the value of the kickers and special teams too. And how stupid is it to have a different rule for the playoffs? Will someone please tell me why?

Saint_LB 06-09-2010 07:26 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
In boxing...at least in the old days...it was kind of an unwritten rule that in order to knock off the champion, you had to soundly beat him. If the fight ended in a tie on the score-card, it was a pretty good bet that the champion would get the decision.

When teams finish in a tie for a playoff spot, they have some sort of criteria for breaking the tie. Sounds kinda stupid, but I say it is as good as any...why not let the same rules apply for settling a tie as the ones that apply for settling a tie when it comes to who get's the playoff spot...like division record, conference record, etc.

I don't know...just thinking out-loud.

poydras 06-09-2010 09:03 AM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
The problem is that they fixed something that wasn't broken by extended the game. No matter how the odds stacked up after, the coin toss was 50/50. You can't get more fair than that.

CheramieIII 06-09-2010 08:31 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 229448)
I was agreeing right up until the end there...

I just got a funny feeling about the Bengals this year. They've signed some questionable characters but with talent. If they can hold it together without any injuries the can make the playoffs and any team is dangerous in the playoffs.

HintOfLogic 06-09-2010 10:34 PM

Re: So who here actually likes the new OT rule?
 
Don't mind the OT rules as much as I hate the "replay" system.

I think they should bring back the old replay system. I respect the "claims" to keep the pace of the game moving and like the idea of strategically challenging plays with a limited number of replay challenges, but the modern replay system still leaves much of the game open to human error (or what I mean is human manipulation) by limiting the amount of scenarios that are NOT challengeable. They could all but eliminate any controversy with a wide opened replay system.... I've seen to many games manipulated by refs, mostly taking advantage of the many scenarios that are not challengeable. I think if they bring back relying on replay for any controversial call, especially as technology and camera coverage has evolved, could have the game unaltered by ref error and manipulation.

Another idea that isn't so far fetched given today's technology is.... they should put a chip in the balls that can track the ball at all times. Maybe it could be tied in with the "sportvision" technology. It could come in especially useful for first down placement and goal line situations... like the ball breaking the plains.

Doesn't hockey use a puck tracking system for the sake of TV viewing?

I honestly think it could be very simply applied to the NFL, but frankly, there is nothing they value more than having a certain margin for human / ref manipulation.

SmashMouth 06-10-2010 07:11 AM

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[QUOTE=HintOfLogic;229554

Another idea that isn't so far fetched given today's technology is.... they should put a chip in the balls that can track the ball at all times. Maybe it could be tied in with the "sportvision" technology. It could come in especially useful for first down placement and goal line situations... like the ball breaking the plains.

Doesn't hockey use a puck tracking system for the sake of TV viewing?

I honestly think it could be very simply applied to the NFL, but frankly, there is nothing they value more than having a certain margin for human / ref manipulation.[/QUOTE]

Great minds think alike .... I thought of that chip idea a while back too .... makes too much sense though.


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