Should Reggie Bush be stripped of the Heisman?
 

Thoughts on Reggie Bush's Heisman - NFC South Blog - ESPN

I tend to agree with Pat on this one.

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I don't care. He already won it...how do you take it away. I think I saw a movie with Jim Carey in it one time that would have allowed him to do that.

I reluctantly picked the "don't care" option. I wouldn't have been reluctant had you not added that part about the cat pictures...:)

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The heisman goes to the best player in NCAA football that year and Reggie was that person. Besides that, the heisman was forever tarnished when they gave it to a loud mouthed thug defensive back instead of Peyton Manning anyway. It's now just a really ugly paper weight. Let him keep it.

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I agree Poydras, he was the best player that year. Whether he has a trophy on his shelf or not doesn't change that fact. He has already reached his next goal, a Superbowl ring. Now for one more goal...the Hall of Fame. All I can say about that is; he better tighten up if he plans on reaching that one.
BTW, I chose to let him keep it.

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TAKE IT AWAY! How dare Reggie make money off of Reggie! That's only for USC, NCAA, and NIKE to do!

/sarcasm

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Please.

Reggie would have won the Heisman even if he played for Wyoming.

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Don't you love watching a cloud of poop follow Lane Kiffin??? :twisted:

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Pretty much how I feel about it too. But I voted "Done care" cause I like the ladies.

:bng:

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That by far is the best part.

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I say take it away because if he was ineligible during the time he played those games, those games didn't count, and he wouldn't have won the Heisman.

I also think this is a great opportunity to set an example for the future.

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Every college athelete that's worth a grain of salt receives some sort of compensation at some point and time during their years in college. Whatever money he may or may not have received didn't make him explosive on the football field. He deserves the Heisman for that year and for the record I didn't like him before he became a Saint and I damn sure don't like USC but he deserved the award.

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Let him keep it. I'm in favor of a college sports stipend anyway. They should get paid...they are getting paid anyway. Money is funneled through boosters and alumni and every other creative channel that can be found. They should just clear the air, put it on paper, and give the guys (and gals) some pocket change.

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I voted for the cats! lol

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I'm glad there was an "I don't care" option.

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Since he didn't do anything performance enhancing I say let him keep it. Its not like getting a suit and a house for his family to live in will make him a better athlete.

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Lol what are they gonna do... break into his house and steal it from him? He won it, who cares if they don't write his name on a list.

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Reggie knowingly broke the rules. Whether or not you agree with the rules is irrelevant. Now, innocent young people have to suffer the consequences of his selfish actions. Reggie should have to give up his trophy and pay USC back for his scholarship. I like Reggie. I'm glad he's a Saint. I'm really tired of their not being any consequences for doing wrong in this country. And we all wonder why things are so screwed up.

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LOL... he might pull an OJ and drive off in a white Bronco chasing his Heisman....

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Whether or not Reggie gets to keep it or not is irrelevant at this point. Theres nothing the NCAA can really do to Reggie and they can only hurt the school involved way afterwards. The peole involved will not be punished, the ones that paid Reggie are not going to get in any trouble. They are getting off scott free. Maybe the Ncaa should look at filing suit against them?

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Let him keep the damn thing! He did the job on the field give him the award. It wasn't a performing enhancing drug, so the NCAA can shove it! Ask yourself this question, right or wrong, if you were broke, in college, and your family was poor, would you take some money to take care of them. This is football guys and girls, one hit and it's over, no big pay day. I'd damn sure take the money, to take care of my family.

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Do the crime and you do the time. If Pete Carroll wants to deny the program knows nothing about what happened thats fine, it even makes them look more stupid because they should've known what was going on with Bush.

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He was by far the best football player that year, Young was good for 2 games while Reggie was a football gawd that whole season. His cherry on top was his 500 yards against Fresno St. Its a player award and not a team award so let him keep it. Some how I doubt he was the only player on that team that was getting money from an "unnamed" source at the time

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What ever rules are in place for these situations are what should be followed. Personally, the Heisman is about individual performance so while I don't care either way, he at least earned the trophy, unless it was somehow provided by alumni.

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Ahhhh some logic and principle! I like it. Well done Cruize.

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I think this is a little strong. I can imagine a lot worse things a young man could do besides accepting gifts or letting his parents accept gifts that people are willingly trying to give them so he can get a college education.

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Did someone say strip

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Bow chika wow wow

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Hot Chicks....

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I don't mean to take the focus off of hot chicks and stripping, but if you have a second you should check out this "article"..ranting, raving nonsense would be a better description for it, but anyway.

Ex-USC cheaters Bush, Mayo deserve financial suffering - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com

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To think that it was ever about the "college education" for Reggie is laughable. He wanted to be a super star, he thought he was above it all, and that he didn't have to follow the rules like everybody else. The rules are in place so that there is a level playing field; just like with steroids, or PEDs.

If you think it's just a harmless, stupid rule, imagine what college football would look like if colleges could pay their players outright. Texas would never lose. Ever. They have the second largest endowment in the country behind Harvard, and their athletic program makes the most money. They could offer more money than any other team and could get primo talent (as if they already don't, but still). There would never be an upset like Boise State v. Oklahoma. College football would suck. I'm all for keeping it amateur, and I think they need to crack down on this type of crap more.

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Did somebody say something ????

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That's certainly an interesting angle. If that could be pulled off, it may actually motivate players to not partake prematurely. It bears watching to see how it pans out!

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NO. Hes why USC has to vacate wins and the title, but USC, and the BOOSTERS ruined his eligibility, minus what ever his families financial situation, what young college kid is turning down money??? for playin football at that??? Yes it is Clearly stated in the NCAA Student Athlete Hand Book, that receiving money or unkind benefits is a violation and will force you to loose your amateur status no matter the sport ( Jeremy Bloom college FB and olympic skiing) the loss of amateur status rules said athlete ineligible from their respective sport. Reggie Bush did not read that hand book i know so cus when I went off to UMass I looked at that manual and used it as a door stop numerous players all over CFB are gettin paid to some degree its been going on FOREVER!! That manual is so big it makes you wonder if you are even allowed to breathe, If he has to give it up then they need to investigate the rest of the modern era winners for amateur status violations... Hes got a Super Bowl Ring i'll take that all day long.

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I agree ..Bush is a drop in the pond to what goes on in college sports..he just got ratted out...:doh:

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Does anyone else think that he's come under, and been under ongoing scrutiny as a direct result of his very public lawsuit with Lloyd Lake and New Era? Is this not Reggie's fault?

I believe that crossing-the-line pampering is present in every competitive school. I don't think nearly as blatant and obvious as Reggie's though. I don't see how he doesn't represent a worst case scenario?

If he didn't handle things like a little, elitist diva douche, then the public or NCAA would probably never speak squeek about any of this. I think his blatant disregard for closed door obligations is what this trail of mud is really spawned from.

He continually displayed this elitist attitude transitioning to the pros, starting with refusing to work out with team on to petitioning the NFL to rearrange their position numbering system so that he, of all players to ever transition to the NFL, could retain his college number at the RB position.

I very much agree with the comments made about being responsible for doing wrong. Reggie has taken full advantage of an over-rewarding system as many players do. The way I see it, he arrogantly flaked out when it came to holding up his end though. To think, because deals are made with a handshake (and orally), to avoid red tape, and then you screw the people who hooked you up because you're taking advantage of the "shady" manor that agreements were made is pretty low.

Didn't he recently find himself in another lawsuit for publicly announcing his contributions to a fund raiser and then later sued by the fund raiser for never meeting his donation obligations? They said they never saw a penny from him... sued him.

Reggie represents everything I hate about the game, and it starts all the way back to this mess he's left behind pre-pro days. If he's created a shady past that follows him, so be it. I am also 99.9% certain that if this story was the focus of any other organizations player (that paralleled this scenario) aside from a Saint, this forum wouldn't take up the defensive so loosely.

As far as actually taking the trophy back from him.... I could truly care less. I think that all of the negative PR is the most effect form of justice.
.... they shouldn't have to strip it from him.... if they follow him around for a little while, he's likely to fumble it.

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So the head coach can get paid millions of dollars,but the players can't recieve a penny.WTF.

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The players are getting paid. How much does it cost to go to USC for four years, live in the dorms or student appartments for four years, to have every meal paid for for four years? How much was that scolarship worth that Reggie Bush recieved? Their job is to play football to the absolute best of their ability and to keep decent grades. That's what they get paid for. If college players could get paid like a pro, if they could recieve endorsements, they would spend way too much time working with agents, lawyers, and sponsers instead of the important things I mentioned before, school and football. IMO.

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thats an understatement strato, he was just the biggest star coming out of college in forever. perfect setup for a pour family and huge star. he settled with his ordeal, don't know if that made him guilty or not but i don't care he helped get the saints there first ring and thats legal as it comes. i wish they would kill this thread. the hell with USC.

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There's an argument for what you're saying - for those athletes on full scholarship, even though I think the money they (the big names like Reggie) bring in and the intangibles equate to more money than their scholarship is worth...it's hard to measure the way a high school kid feels toward a University because of "x" player...I mean how do you put a dollar value on that?

Still, they aren't all on full scholarship right? And even still, you're telling this kid, "look, your school, your meals, and your rent are paid for." Then we tell them, "you can NOT take another dollar from whatever the entity because you'll lose it all." So the players can essentially whore themselves out to the school - they get tuition and meals and a place to sleep in return for their performance, which benefits the school in their recruiting efforts and puts buts in seats and generates a LOT of money for the institution, yet they cannot whore themselves out to a booster who wants to give them a car?

I understand my argument isn't terribly lucid, and I confess I haven't looked in to the whole picture as to the why's and why not's, but it seems to me, on the surface at least, that the rules that prohibit these kids from taking advantage of their position aren't entirely for the benefit if the kids.

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i hear what u-r saying all the way, the only benefit is if they graduate or make it all the way into the nfl. its all for selling tickets, filling seats sharing profits from conferences.now some stories you hear about security guard jobs that payed 80,000 a year and the athelete not in the guard house till its pay day. you want to investigate that sure. but why not give them living and spending cash for burgers and movies. they have been talking about it for years but nobody does anything about it. good take on it saintfan.