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BrooksMustGo 10-07-2003 12:12 AM

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If Eli has a tenth of the poise, leadership and never say die that Peyton showed tonight, we'd have a franchise quarterback to be proud of.

That was un-friggin-believable! One of the best games I've ever seen. Peyton gave a clinic on leadership tonight. I couldn't be happier for Dungy either. I felt like he got the shaft from Tampa. It was good to see him get to return the favor. You know the crappy part is that in Indy they really don't like having the team. WTH?!?!

Anyone else who starts comparing Brooks to Peyton needs a CAT scan ..... soon. But then again, I don't guess that lobatomies are reversible. Right now it looks like the AFC championship boils down to the Cheifs and the Colts.

PS, that Lise Guerrerro is a peach isn't she?

canucksaint 10-07-2003 08:53 AM

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Maybe it\'s just me, but I don\'t understand why we need Eli? I can understand why we want him, and really why the marketing department want him, but don\'t we have other needs? We have Bourman and Brooks as Qb\'s. That is a solid #1 & #2 spot (put them in whatever order you want). Why do we need a new rookie to learn the ropes. Don\'t we have more concerns on the D side of the ball? Shouldn\'t those be addressed first?
I know that Manning name is huge down there, and I know that everyone would cream their shorts to get Eli. But I\'m just wondering if it\'s the best move for the Saints?

BlackandBlue 10-07-2003 09:09 AM

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PS, that Lise Guerrerro is a peach isn\'t she?
She is an abomination. At least Melissa Stark was beautiful and knew who the hell she was interviewing.
As far as Eli, I don’t know, you scrap the QB position, and you’re basically starting over, asking the fans to give you another 3 years. Whereas, I look at a team, like the Cowboys for example, and see a good head coach and the effect he has on a sub-standard QB, and it makes me shake my head. Each game it seems as if Quincy Carter is improving, building off the previous win. His completion percentage is not that great, but he hardly makes any errors, and makes the plays needed in order to win. That is what a good head coach will do for you, and I think that is the first position we need to address. Hell, con Gibbs out of retirement if you have to, I think I’m actually jealous of what the Cowboys have accomplished this year, and that is sad that it has come to this.
One of the few things the Saints are known for historically is their tenacious defense. I miss those days. Something about the 3-4 screams \"Badass\".

canucksaint 10-07-2003 09:14 AM

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Well said B&B. I fully agree... I miss Melissa Stark.

BlackandBlue 10-07-2003 09:29 AM

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I miss Melissa Stark.

Me too! ;)

I used to dream about the two of us naked snuggling up under some blankets next to an open fire...talking football. Best...dream...evah!!!

tweeky 10-07-2003 10:10 AM

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I liked Melissa Stark too. even though she had man-hands.

Lisa is sexy and sweet. And I love Latino women. Oops does that classify me as a racist bigot homo-phobe sexist pig scum nowdays?

I\'ve read a lot about Lisa and she is quite knowledgable about sports. She made a few blunders early but most likely just because she was nervous.

I\'d be shaking like a cat passing a peach seed.

tweeky 10-07-2003 10:13 AM

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To answer the original post, next year\'s priority...
2-CB
2-LB
1-DE
1- QB (Only if a Chris Simms type slips)

Looking at the Bucs/Colts game last night I couldn\'t help wondering how much better we\'d be with either of those QB\'s or either of those Coaches.

[Edited on 7/10/2003 by tweeky]

canucksaint 10-07-2003 10:50 AM

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I fully agree with Tweeky\'s assesment of what we need. I\'m just wondering how our O line will look next year. Is that something else that we will need to focus on, or will they get better with time?

nocloning 10-07-2003 12:04 PM

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If we are in the position to draft Eli (draft position 1-3) we will have gone something like 4-12 or worse - even including trades. So the team is officially in a rebuild phase. Might as well start with a QB that sells tickets and may become a superstar. I wouldn\'t give up a whole draft for him, but if a reasonable deal or no deal at all is all it takes to get him: DRAFT ELI.

TheOriginalSwampdog 10-07-2003 12:24 PM

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Look how Leftwhich is playing for Jax. Listen, even Manning struggled his first year. We should do the same thing that the Jets did with Pennington. Let Bouman start the first year and start grooming Eli. We haven\'t had a franchise qb since Archie, how ironic would it be that his son would be our second.

ScottyRo 10-07-2003 12:29 PM

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Player considerations aside, if Haslet doesn\'t prove his worth as HC by the end of the season, then Benson has put us in a heck of a pickle because he\'ll have to re-tool the whole organization.

With Haslet gone all we\'ll have is Rick Mueller and Mickey Loomis as GM and head personnel men. Are we confident that Rick can handle this or is even the best man for the job? I\'m not. Thus, even if we bring in a new coach he\'d need to be somebody experienced in talent evaluations at this level. Bringing in a college coach is a risky proposition with this set up.

The best answer, if Benson doesn\'t want to make a GM change, in my opinion would be Dennis Green. Give him the same power over personnel that Haslet has and he just might be willing to take the job. He has proven what he can do with a team and seemed to be a good motivator. He also has experience with bringing along young QB\'s. I don\'t think the fit could be any better.

BlackandBlue 10-07-2003 01:50 PM

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The best answer, if Benson doesn\'t want to make a GM change, in my opinion would be Dennis Green.
I was thinking about him the other day, more in a head coach capacity, but my one question was, with all the teams that have needed a head coach the past couple of years, why hasn\'t he already been hired? I thought surely that he would be in the running for the S.F. job last year.

BlackandBlue 10-07-2003 01:55 PM

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even Manning struggled his first year.
Correction- he struggled his first four games. Manning was an enigma, he was able to adjust to the speed of the NFL faster than most QB\'s.

JOESAM2002 10-07-2003 06:38 PM

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I think so far Denny hasn\'t found the job he wants. I think he might be a good choice. I was also thinking about Jimmy Johnson? God forbid? I\'m amazed at the success of the Cowboys also. They look like I wish we looked.

tweeky 10-07-2003 06:54 PM

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I think so far Denny hasn\'t found the job he wants. I think he might be a good choice. I was also thinking about Jimmy Johnson? God forbid? I\'m amazed at the success of the Cowboys also. They look like I wish we looked.
Denny\'s an awesome coach and he would be a great choice here. But he is as power hungry as any coach in recent history. A control freak. He\'ll want full control and a barge full of money.

Sorry for the buzz-kill

JOESAM2002 10-07-2003 06:58 PM

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Point well taken. What you say is absolutely true. But I do agree he\'d make a good coach. Back up the Brinks truck!

JOESAM2002 10-07-2003 06:59 PM

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And one more thing. Ya\'ll be nice about Lisa, she\'s my sister. ;)

ScottyRo 10-07-2003 07:02 PM

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I think we\'re in perfect position for a guy like Green to come in. IF haz is fired, then we\'ll need an experienced personnel man in the GM position. Green is power hungry? We\'ll just give him both HC and GM duties. You can\'t have more power short of owning the team.

I don\'t know about the money part, though. Benson can be cheap - which I think is why he went with Mueller and haslet in the first place (relative unknowns who could be had at a lesser price).



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