SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 10:33 AM

Draftwatch by Dan Pompei

RATED NUMBER ONE:

Eli Manning- 6'4, 220 lbs. Similar to older brother Peyton but with a little better arm and more mobility. A smart player with good intangibles. Makes good decisions. Has improved his accuracy and consistency. Is playing on a poor team and still excelling.

Gee, better arm and mobility than Peyton. We should be so lucky to draft this kid. Let's hope we lose every game this year so we can FINALLY have a qb with talent AND a brain!

[Edited on 9/10/2003 by TheOriginalSwampdog]

ScottyRo · 10-09-2003, 12:55 PM

Well, don\'t get your hopes up for Eli coming here. This IS the Saints, remember? We\'re gonna win just enough to keep us out of the running for Eli, but certainly not enough to make the playoffs or even look like a team headed in the right direction.

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 01:20 PM

Nah, not this time. The cards are all falling into place. All the worst teams have young qbs. The Bears have Grossman, the Texans have Carr, the Lions have Harrington, Cincy has Palmer, the Raiders have Tuiososopo. I just can\'t see Eli not being there if we only win 3 games. Let\'s face it, 3 is about all we are going to manage this year. We have the hardest division and hardest schedule of any of those listed above. ELI WILL BE OURS! Do you think Benson will allow a staff to NOT draft Manning? Benson is dumb, but not that dumb. Even he can see the dollar signs with the merchadise and season tickets sales Eli would sell. The way AB is playing, this is almost a done deal already. I would think our only competition will be the Cardinals. And they still have McNown. I hope the Cards go on a winning streak. Course, they need wr\'s, a running back just as bad as a qb, so that\'s not a given either. Not to mention, they have a MUCH easier schedule than we do.

[Edited on 9/10/2003 by TheOriginalSwampdog]

canucksaint · 10-09-2003, 01:26 PM

You forgot about the Chargers. They aren\'t all that happy with their QB situation either (other than Flutie who is a god)

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 01:44 PM

I don\'t know, Canuck. Drew Brees is still very young. I don\'t think they are ready to give up on him yet. They need some defensive help in the worst way. I think they will be looking at the DT from Oklahoma. They may also go with a Roy Williams or the kid from Oklahoma State to play opposite Boston. I don\'t see them picking a qb that high.

canucksaint · 10-09-2003, 03:05 PM

True, he is young, but so far he hasn\'t preformed all that well this year. Last year he wasn\'t that great eitehr. Their team and our team are going through a lot of the same issues. They are really starting to question their QB (although no were close to the ammount that you question ours). It didn\'t take them long to ditch Leaf. Plus they have a great mentor in Flutie, but how much longer will that guy be around to mentor the young kids.

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 03:26 PM

Hey, if Brees had the same amount of time in his offense as AB has and played the same way, I\'d say the Chargers would be the front runner for Manning. Here\'s my hope. Brooks continues to stink it up and he gets benched. Bouman comes in and does a better job, but the team is still losing. We draft Manning and keep Bouman for one more year. Manning learns the offense, Bouman goes down at the end of week four with our record at 2-2 and Manning comes in and gets us to the playoffs. Now, he won\'t be spectacular, but he won\'t lose us games like lunkhead Brooks. Then in year two, we win the division with Manning and go to the NFC Championship game.

BrooksMustGo · 10-09-2003, 09:59 PM

You know,

I just don\'t want to talk about it or jinx it.
The year Peyton came out, the year Mora melted down in spectacularly memorable fashion, I remember the signs in the dome. \"Keep Losing, We Want Peyton!\"
I remember thinking, \"you know there\'s no way we can win enough to be out of the running for Peyon.\"

Then Venturi stepped in.

Winning like 5 or their last 6 or some other craziness that put us light years from the Manning kid. I agree with Scotty, we are the Saints and we could win just enough to make one of the premier draft pickups out of reach, still leave us too high for the player we end up making a \"reach\" to get (how many players are we going to draft from Georgia anyway) and stll look like a team running out of places to shoot ourselves.

I\'m with 08, this team needs a total rebuild and I\'m all for continuing to stink it up so that we have to do so. Let us get insanely high draft picks. Think about it, who else BUT a Manning will Benson be willing to pay a top 5 pick? If we pick in the top 5, which seems reasonable at this point, and that player is not named Manning, I think it\'s safe to say that we will enjoy a lengthy holdout. Kind of like that tackle who went to the Vikings last year.

So let\'s trade Brooks to somebody who\'s qb has a career ending injury this year and wants to make a playoff run and is willing to give up several picks to get him and just try to lay a solid foundation, pick up good free agent linemen, help Duece carry this team for a year so the qb gets a chance to learn and draft wisely.

Oh, and we\'ll need a new GM and head coach to do this.

canucksaint · 10-10-2003, 09:00 AM

Maybe I read that wrong.
Swampy, are you hoping for a player to get injured?

Bouman goes down at the end of week four

Come on now. I know you don\'t like how the team is going, nor do many people, but wishing for an injury??

BlackandBlue · 10-10-2003, 10:08 AM

Swampy, are you hoping for a player to get injured?

And that suprises you? Consider the source and ask yourself that question again.

10-09-2003, 10:33 AM	#1
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb Draftwatch by Dan Pompei RATED NUMBER ONE: Eli Manning- 6'4, 220 lbs. Similar to older brother Peyton but with a little better arm and more mobility. A smart player with good intangibles. Makes good decisions. Has improved his accuracy and consistency. Is playing on a poor team and still excelling. Gee, better arm and mobility than Peyton. We should be so lucky to draft this kid. Let's hope we lose every game this year so we can FINALLY have a qb with talent AND a brain! [Edited on 9/10/2003 by TheOriginalSwampdog]

10-09-2003, 12:55 PM	#2
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb Well, don\'t get your hopes up for Eli coming here. This IS the Saints, remember? We\'re gonna win just enough to keep us out of the running for Eli, but certainly not enough to make the playoffs or even look like a team headed in the right direction.

10-09-2003, 01:20 PM	#3
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb Nah, not this time. The cards are all falling into place. All the worst teams have young qbs. The Bears have Grossman, the Texans have Carr, the Lions have Harrington, Cincy has Palmer, the Raiders have Tuiososopo. I just can\'t see Eli not being there if we only win 3 games. Let\'s face it, 3 is about all we are going to manage this year. We have the hardest division and hardest schedule of any of those listed above. ELI WILL BE OURS! Do you think Benson will allow a staff to NOT draft Manning? Benson is dumb, but not that dumb. Even he can see the dollar signs with the merchadise and season tickets sales Eli would sell. The way AB is playing, this is almost a done deal already. I would think our only competition will be the Cardinals. And they still have McNown. I hope the Cards go on a winning streak. Course, they need wr\'s, a running back just as bad as a qb, so that\'s not a given either. Not to mention, they have a MUCH easier schedule than we do. [Edited on 9/10/2003 by TheOriginalSwampdog]
	http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/...manning_vi.jpg

10-09-2003, 01:26 PM	#4
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb You forgot about the Chargers. They aren\'t all that happy with their QB situation either (other than Flutie who is a god)

10-09-2003, 01:44 PM	#5
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb I don\'t know, Canuck. Drew Brees is still very young. I don\'t think they are ready to give up on him yet. They need some defensive help in the worst way. I think they will be looking at the DT from Oklahoma. They may also go with a Roy Williams or the kid from Oklahoma State to play opposite Boston. I don\'t see them picking a qb that high.

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

10-09-2003, 03:05 PM	#6
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb True, he is young, but so far he hasn\'t preformed all that well this year. Last year he wasn\'t that great eitehr. Their team and our team are going through a lot of the same issues. They are really starting to question their QB (although no were close to the ammount that you question ours). It didn\'t take them long to ditch Leaf. Plus they have a great mentor in Flutie, but how much longer will that guy be around to mentor the young kids.

10-09-2003, 03:26 PM	#7
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb Hey, if Brees had the same amount of time in his offense as AB has and played the same way, I\'d say the Chargers would be the front runner for Manning. Here\'s my hope. Brooks continues to stink it up and he gets benched. Bouman comes in and does a better job, but the team is still losing. We draft Manning and keep Bouman for one more year. Manning learns the offense, Bouman goes down at the end of week four with our record at 2-2 and Manning comes in and gets us to the playoffs. Now, he won\'t be spectacular, but he won\'t lose us games like lunkhead Brooks. Then in year two, we win the division with Manning and go to the NFC Championship game.
	http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/...manning_vi.jpg

10-09-2003, 09:59 PM	#8
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb You know, I just don\'t want to talk about it or jinx it. The year Peyton came out, the year Mora melted down in spectacularly memorable fashion, I remember the signs in the dome. \"Keep Losing, We Want Peyton!\" I remember thinking, \"you know there\'s no way we can win enough to be out of the running for Peyon.\" Then Venturi stepped in. Winning like 5 or their last 6 or some other craziness that put us light years from the Manning kid. I agree with Scotty, we are the Saints and we could win just enough to make one of the premier draft pickups out of reach, still leave us too high for the player we end up making a \"reach\" to get (how many players are we going to draft from Georgia anyway) and stll look like a team running out of places to shoot ourselves. I\'m with 08, this team needs a total rebuild and I\'m all for continuing to stink it up so that we have to do so. Let us get insanely high draft picks. Think about it, who else BUT a Manning will Benson be willing to pay a top 5 pick? If we pick in the top 5, which seems reasonable at this point, and that player is not named Manning, I think it\'s safe to say that we will enjoy a lengthy holdout. Kind of like that tackle who went to the Vikings last year. So let\'s trade Brooks to somebody who\'s qb has a career ending injury this year and wants to make a playoff run and is willing to give up several picks to get him and just try to lay a solid foundation, pick up good free agent linemen, help Duece carry this team for a year so the qb gets a chance to learn and draft wisely. Oh, and we\'ll need a new GM and head coach to do this.
	http://www.blackandgold.net/site/signature/buddysig.jpg

10-10-2003, 09:00 AM	#9
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb Maybe I read that wrong. Swampy, are you hoping for a player to get injured? Bouman goes down at the end of week four Come on now. I know you don\'t like how the team is going, nor do many people, but wishing for an injury??

10-10-2003, 10:08 AM	#10
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	SportsIllustrated has some good stuff on our qb Swampy, are you hoping for a player to get injured? And that suprises you? Consider the source and ask yourself that question again.