Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 02:39 PM

Brooks said he is not concerned by his team's inability to score early.

"Does it mean we're not prepared or not ready to play? No, it just means the defense is ready to play," Brooks said. "The whole thing is overblown. Most games are won in the last minute of the game anyway, whether you jump out in front or not.

This quote from the Times Picayune is proof positive that this bum is not a competitor and will NEVER be the qb to lead this taem. In his mind, the first three quarters don't matter and he'll just try to win it in the end. That would explain our terrible first half performances week to week by the offense. THIS GUY SUCKS AND I HATE HIM!

ScottyRo · 10-09-2003, 02:50 PM

I knew when I read that this morning that you or BrooksMustGo was going to jump on it. The sad thing is...I, unfortumately, cannot disagree. If he truly feels that way, then he should be gone. With the defense we have, we should be trying to score early and often.

canucksaint · 10-09-2003, 03:00 PM

I guess Indy\'s inablility to score early on really hurt them when they played TB.
I personally thought that quote was in reference to the Saints not being able to score on their first posession. Not the way Swampy took it, of not wanting to score until the last 2 min.

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-09-2003, 03:13 PM

I think SwampDog needs to include a link to all articles he posts. First of all, this isn\'t all of the article and secondly I don\'t trust any information he brings to this board about Aaron Brooks.

Brooks DID NOT say he wasn\'t concerned about the inability to score early. He said: It was being overblown. He\'s also right about most games are won in the 4th quarter. I wouldn\'t have worded it exactly like Brooks did, but some people want to make it sound like Brooks doesn\'t even try in the 1st 3 quarters.

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 03:18 PM

I don\'t need to include a link. A posted the Times Pic as the reference and I copied and pasted the exact quote. Show me a qb that says, \"My job and the offenses job is to score on every possesion. That is our job to be successful on every drive\" and I\'ll show you a gunslinger, who wants to win on every down. Show me a guy who says, \"It doesn\'t matter how much you score early anyway. Games usually go down to the last minute anyway\" and I\'ll show you a guy who hasn\'t been to the postseason in two years in a row and is 1-4 as a starter this year.

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-09-2003, 03:24 PM

Dog I know exactly where you got that quote from and it was off SaintsReport.com that someone else posted, which is why you can\'t provide a link. How do you know it\'s from the Times Picayune? It is from the Times but maybe you need to make sure because someone else could just be posting garbage.

Like I said, I wouldn\'t have worded it the way he did, but you are making way more of it then what it is. Why can\'t you just take something at face value rather than turning it into something to further your agenda against Brooks?

canucksaint · 10-09-2003, 03:26 PM

maybe I\'m not reading the same article?

\"It doesn\'t matter how much you score early anyway. Games usually go down to the last minute anyway\"

Uh, where exactly did AB say that? I can\'t seem to find it.
If we\'re only going to post parts of the article in order to futher our agenda; then here\'s what I saw

\"Does it mean we\'re not prepared or not ready to play? No

Meaning that he says they are prepared and ready to play...

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-09-2003, 03:31 PM

canucksaint -- Exactly !!

I know for a fact JoeSam does not like for anyone to be posting articles without proof where they came from. I have no problem with anyone giving their opinions but some people that read this site for information will be mighty misinformed reading untrue or half true articles. canucksaint gave a great example of how anyone can take anything out of context. I\'m sure you\'ll hear from JoeSam

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 03:38 PM

BillyC, how dare you question my posts! Who the f are you anyway? Do you really think I would take the time to make up this kind of blast on Brooks? He does it himself almost weekly! I guess I\'m the one who was trying to get Joe Montana in here to try and get Brooks to be a \"leader\". Yeah, I guess I\'m the one who sent him to leadership classes. Brooks is a joke and so are you. Here is the article by Brian Allee Walsh in it\'s entirety. If this ain\'t good enough then you are in more denial than I thought.

FALSE START: Saints look to improve team\'s bad beginnings

Thursday October 09, 2003

By Brian Allee-Walsh
Staff writer

Saints offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy is searching for ways to jump-start an offense that has struggled in the first quarter this season.

-- The offense has produced 10 points in the opening quarter of the first five games, or one point for every 7 ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â½ minutes.

-- It has not scored on its five opening possessions this season, continuing a disturbing offensive trend under Coach Jim Haslett.

r In 53 regular-season games since 2000, the Saints have scored only five touchdowns on their opening possession, only once in their past 21 games. That touchdown came against the San Francisco 49ers in Game 7 last season. Deuce McAllister caught a 4-yard scoring pass from quarterback Aaron Brooks.

McCarthy hopes to change his unit\'s first-possession blahs, beginning Sunday against the Chicago Bears at the Superdome.

\"We have not started fast since I\'ve been here,\" McCarthy said Wednesday. \"It\'s something we\'ve addressed, but we haven\'t accomplished it. Obviously, it\'s an area we need to do better.

\"We addressed it this morning in depth in our offensive meeting. We actually went through every play, every first series of the first five games. Our emphasis this week is going to be start fast, play with urgency and we\'ve got to get on the board right away. That would be the best thing for our team right now.\"

McCarthy discovered a common denominator on their first five possessions against Seattle, Houston, Tennessee, Indianapolis and Carolina.

\"We had self-inflicted wounds; quarterback pressures, dropped balls, penalties, things that you can attribute to yourself,\" McCarthy said. \"Of the first five series, only once did we give credit to the defense. We credited Tennessee for stopping us. But in the other four games, we stopped ourselves.\"

Brooks said he is not concerned by his team\'s inability to score early.

\"Does it mean we\'re not prepared or not ready to play? No, it just means the defense is ready to play,\" Brooks said. \"The whole thing is overblown. Most games are won in the last minute of the game anyway, whether you jump out in front or not.

\"A prime example was Monday night. Tampa Bay went up 21-0 and Indianapolis came back to win, so whether the (Colts) scored on the first drive or not didn\'t mean anything. What counts is how well you play in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line.\"

Saints right guard LeCharles Bentley said the coaching staff is trying to emphasize the importance of the offense getting off to a productive start against the Bears.

\"Usually that first series you try to chill out and see what\'s going on,\" Bentley said. \"But we\'ve got to put some points on the board. We\'ve got so many weapons we should be able to score a lot, quite frankly. So there\'s no reason why we shouldn\'t be scoring more.\"

Each game, McCarthy scripts the first 17 offensive plays -- \"those are my best first- and second-down thoughts,\" he said -- and he sees no reason to deviate from that plan.

\"Any time there\'s a problem we evaluate it,\" McCarthy said. \"If I need to change I\'d change it. But I don\'t think the 17 plays are inhibiting us at all.

\"I think what happens is there\'s such a fine line in this business of producing and not producing and we\'ve got to close that small gap. The Carolina game is a perfect example of it. We did so many positive things. Then you get done watching the film, and say, \'Holy cow! We only scored 13 points.\' That\'s a hard game to raise hell with your players afterward.

\"But we\'re going to stay aggressive in our approach because it fits the style of players that we have. We\'re going to keep doing what we\'re doing, we\'ve just got to do it better.\"

. . . . . . .

Brian Allee-Walsh can be reached at ballee-walsh@timespicayune.com or (504) 826-3805.

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-09-2003, 03:40 PM

Please note the IDIOTIC quotes , \"How can you get on your team after the Carolina game and we did a lot of positive things\". And you wonder why we are losing.

10-09-2003, 02:39 PM	#1
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade Brooks said he is not concerned by his team's inability to score early. "Does it mean we're not prepared or not ready to play? No, it just means the defense is ready to play," Brooks said. "The whole thing is overblown. Most games are won in the last minute of the game anyway, whether you jump out in front or not. This quote from the Times Picayune is proof positive that this bum is not a competitor and will NEVER be the qb to lead this taem. In his mind, the first three quarters don't matter and he'll just try to win it in the end. That would explain our terrible first half performances week to week by the offense. THIS GUY SUCKS AND I HATE HIM!

10-09-2003, 02:50 PM	#2
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade I knew when I read that this morning that you or BrooksMustGo was going to jump on it. The sad thing is...I, unfortumately, cannot disagree. If he truly feels that way, then he should be gone. With the defense we have, we should be trying to score early and often.

10-09-2003, 03:00 PM	#3
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade I guess Indy\'s inablility to score early on really hurt them when they played TB. I personally thought that quote was in reference to the Saints not being able to score on their first posession. Not the way Swampy took it, of not wanting to score until the last 2 min.

10-09-2003, 03:13 PM	#4
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade I think SwampDog needs to include a link to all articles he posts. First of all, this isn\'t all of the article and secondly I don\'t trust any information he brings to this board about Aaron Brooks. Brooks DID NOT say he wasn\'t concerned about the inability to score early. He said: It was being overblown. He\'s also right about most games are won in the 4th quarter. I wouldn\'t have worded it exactly like Brooks did, but some people want to make it sound like Brooks doesn\'t even try in the 1st 3 quarters.
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10-09-2003, 03:18 PM	#5
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade I don\'t need to include a link. A posted the Times Pic as the reference and I copied and pasted the exact quote. Show me a qb that says, \"My job and the offenses job is to score on every possesion. That is our job to be successful on every drive\" and I\'ll show you a gunslinger, who wants to win on every down. Show me a guy who says, \"It doesn\'t matter how much you score early anyway. Games usually go down to the last minute anyway\" and I\'ll show you a guy who hasn\'t been to the postseason in two years in a row and is 1-4 as a starter this year.
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10-09-2003, 03:24 PM	#6
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade Dog I know exactly where you got that quote from and it was off SaintsReport.com that someone else posted, which is why you can\'t provide a link. How do you know it\'s from the Times Picayune? It is from the Times but maybe you need to make sure because someone else could just be posting garbage. Like I said, I wouldn\'t have worded it the way he did, but you are making way more of it then what it is. Why can\'t you just take something at face value rather than turning it into something to further your agenda against Brooks?
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10-09-2003, 03:26 PM	#7
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade maybe I\'m not reading the same article? \"It doesn\'t matter how much you score early anyway. Games usually go down to the last minute anyway\" Uh, where exactly did AB say that? I can\'t seem to find it. If we\'re only going to post parts of the article in order to futher our agenda; then here\'s what I saw \"Does it mean we\'re not prepared or not ready to play? No Meaning that he says they are prepared and ready to play...

10-09-2003, 03:31 PM	#8
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade canucksaint -- Exactly !! I know for a fact JoeSam does not like for anyone to be posting articles without proof where they came from. I have no problem with anyone giving their opinions but some people that read this site for information will be mighty misinformed reading untrue or half true articles. canucksaint gave a great example of how anyone can take anything out of context. I\'m sure you\'ll hear from JoeSam
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10-09-2003, 03:38 PM	#9
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade BillyC, how dare you question my posts! Who the f are you anyway? Do you really think I would take the time to make up this kind of blast on Brooks? He does it himself almost weekly! I guess I\'m the one who was trying to get Joe Montana in here to try and get Brooks to be a \"leader\". Yeah, I guess I\'m the one who sent him to leadership classes. Brooks is a joke and so are you. Here is the article by Brian Allee Walsh in it\'s entirety. If this ain\'t good enough then you are in more denial than I thought. FALSE START: Saints look to improve team\'s bad beginnings Thursday October 09, 2003 By Brian Allee-Walsh Staff writer Saints offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy is searching for ways to jump-start an offense that has struggled in the first quarter this season. -- The offense has produced 10 points in the opening quarter of the first five games, or one point for every 7 ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â½ minutes. -- It has not scored on its five opening possessions this season, continuing a disturbing offensive trend under Coach Jim Haslett. r In 53 regular-season games since 2000, the Saints have scored only five touchdowns on their opening possession, only once in their past 21 games. That touchdown came against the San Francisco 49ers in Game 7 last season. Deuce McAllister caught a 4-yard scoring pass from quarterback Aaron Brooks. McCarthy hopes to change his unit\'s first-possession blahs, beginning Sunday against the Chicago Bears at the Superdome. \"We have not started fast since I\'ve been here,\" McCarthy said Wednesday. \"It\'s something we\'ve addressed, but we haven\'t accomplished it. Obviously, it\'s an area we need to do better. \"We addressed it this morning in depth in our offensive meeting. We actually went through every play, every first series of the first five games. Our emphasis this week is going to be start fast, play with urgency and we\'ve got to get on the board right away. That would be the best thing for our team right now.\" McCarthy discovered a common denominator on their first five possessions against Seattle, Houston, Tennessee, Indianapolis and Carolina. \"We had self-inflicted wounds; quarterback pressures, dropped balls, penalties, things that you can attribute to yourself,\" McCarthy said. \"Of the first five series, only once did we give credit to the defense. We credited Tennessee for stopping us. But in the other four games, we stopped ourselves.\" Brooks said he is not concerned by his team\'s inability to score early. \"Does it mean we\'re not prepared or not ready to play? No, it just means the defense is ready to play,\" Brooks said. \"The whole thing is overblown. Most games are won in the last minute of the game anyway, whether you jump out in front or not. \"A prime example was Monday night. Tampa Bay went up 21-0 and Indianapolis came back to win, so whether the (Colts) scored on the first drive or not didn\'t mean anything. What counts is how well you play in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line.\" Saints right guard LeCharles Bentley said the coaching staff is trying to emphasize the importance of the offense getting off to a productive start against the Bears. \"Usually that first series you try to chill out and see what\'s going on,\" Bentley said. \"But we\'ve got to put some points on the board. We\'ve got so many weapons we should be able to score a lot, quite frankly. So there\'s no reason why we shouldn\'t be scoring more.\" Each game, McCarthy scripts the first 17 offensive plays -- \"those are my best first- and second-down thoughts,\" he said -- and he sees no reason to deviate from that plan. \"Any time there\'s a problem we evaluate it,\" McCarthy said. \"If I need to change I\'d change it. But I don\'t think the 17 plays are inhibiting us at all. \"I think what happens is there\'s such a fine line in this business of producing and not producing and we\'ve got to close that small gap. The Carolina game is a perfect example of it. We did so many positive things. Then you get done watching the film, and say, \'Holy cow! We only scored 13 points.\' That\'s a hard game to raise hell with your players afterward. \"But we\'re going to stay aggressive in our approach because it fits the style of players that we have. We\'re going to keep doing what we\'re doing, we\'ve just got to do it better.\" . . . . . . . Brian Allee-Walsh can be reached at ballee-walsh@timespicayune.com or (504) 826-3805.
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10-09-2003, 03:40 PM	#10
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Yet another reason why Brooks needs to get benched and trade Please note the IDIOTIC quotes , \"How can you get on your team after the Carolina game and we did a lot of positive things\". And you wonder why we are losing.