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Old 10-14-2003, 09:02 AM   #21
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He is not now nor has he been the problem with this team, and anyone who says he is just isn\'t watching the game objectively...PERIOD.
I\'m pretty unbiased, because of how I feel for this team, my deepest wish is to eliminate Brooks as part of the problem- however, I can\'t do that. Now, he\'s no where near the biggest problem we have, but based on his intangible performance on the field, nobody in their right mind can rule him out completely...PERIOD.
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I agree wtih ya Billy. My thing is there\'s just no execution. It doesn\'t seem to matter what the play is. We just don\'t execute. I\'m not happy with the plays he\'s calling either and I agree that we should spread things out a bit but damnit man our execution sucks pond water right now! LOL
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Old 10-14-2003, 09:09 AM   #23
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I\'m pretty unbiased, because of how I feel for this team, my deepest wish is to eliminate Brooks as part of the problem- however, I can\'t do that. Now, he\'s no where near the biggest problem we have, but based on his intangible performance on the field, nobody in their right mind can rule him out completely...PERIOD.
I agree. Because until this thing is fixed you can\'t eliminate anyone in the passing game. I still blame McCarthy the most though. Brooks and all the receivers haven\'t played like they did last year. When McCarthy has a totally different approach this year and it isn\'t successful, then I have to ask myself why he is doing it. Do you think Bill Parcels could make this offense go with the same players we have on offense now????
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Old 10-14-2003, 09:18 AM   #24
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I still blame McCarthy the most though.
I agree 100%. Who really knows whether or not Brooks can become a great QB under this staff. This is the very first thing that needs to be purged.
If Parcells had this offense under his wing, it would be one hell of a well-oiled machine. But Parcells also gets his players ready to play. They are scared of him. They know that he is one of the few head coaches that can come into a program, bench whoever he wants, and has the clout to get away with it. He takes ZERO BS from his players. And he has ZERO tolerance for mental errors (turnovers, penalties, etc.)

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I\'m not saying Brooks shouldn\'t shoulder his share of the blame for the team\'s performance up to now, and sure, he\'s thrown some errant passes, but when the Offensive line stops killin\' drives with pentalties and the receivers start catching balls THEN we can focus more on Brooks.
Read the entore post. I\'m not saying his play is perfect, but you can\'t think that replacing Brooks (which is a common thread on this board) is the answer. His play doesn\'t warrant it. Perhaps you can define \"his intangible performance on the field\" for me. Read the WHOLE post. Watch the WHOLE game.
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Yes Billy. After what I\'ve seen Bill do here in Dallas this year I believe he could do just about anything. I really do.
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Old 10-14-2003, 09:36 AM   #27
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Saintfan—

I read the whole post. I watch as many of the games as I can. You seemed a little contradictory in your wording, even though your clear intent was not to be. Since you are from Dallas, you’ll appreciate this next statement- Leave me the hell alone :P I was at Carson’s until 2:00, and was up another two hours after that. So I’m working on two hours sleep and I am physically exhausted.
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Old 10-14-2003, 09:41 AM   #28
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I have a great idea. Let\'s call a team meeting, with players, coachs, towel boys, trainers and all. Let an unbiased person walk into the center of this meeting holding a sign. On that sign it should read:

\"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!\"

I bet there wouldn\'t be much use for rocks.
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Old 10-14-2003, 12:45 PM   #29
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No one wants to blame Brooks or anynone for anything, we just want to win. Stats help me dominate the fantasy world. In the stats category, the only one that means a thing is the won/loss column. Do whatever it takes to win. It really does not matter how well everyone else is doing, I care about one team. If it can be ficed we need to do that.
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I have one question for you guys. Who was MOST responsible for the Saints success last season (on offense)?

This is a simple question with, in my opinion, telling ramifications. I think Deuce, McCarthy, the receivers, and then Brooks, in that order, contributed most to the teams great play last season.

Thus, if you want to find out what is wrong with the offense this season, look at those contributors in order. Deuce is still a stud, no change there. McCarthy... A HA! All of a sudden this guy can\'t trick a peewee league team with his play calling. Problem 1. Next, the receivers... A HA! Put 15 pounds of stick-em on these guys hands and they\'re still dropping passes. Problem 2. Finally, Brooks.

Let\'s think about Brooks a little. I will be the first to admit that my biggest problem with him last season was his inefficiency and bone-headed mistakes. Sorry \"bashers\", he has NOT made a lot of blatant mistakes this season. He is also more efficent. Score one for Brooks.

HOWEVER, the things that the \"lovers\" said he did best - throw for lots of yards and TDs - have stopped. Is this Brooks\' fault? Yes. Is this McCarthy\'s fault? Yes. Is this the receivers faults? Yes.

Bottom line to me guys - I didn\'t credit Brooks much last season for our successes. Right now, I don\'t credit him much for our failures. He\'s not playing great football. I don\'t know if he\'s playing good football, but he certainly isn\'t playing bad football either. Right now, he\'s average. The receivers ARE hurting his stats right now, but that\'s not to say he hasn\'t thrown some in the dirt or made some bad reads.

Brooks is average - not worth the $36 million we\'re paying. But this team has had much worse. Can we please talk about something else? Something MORE important to helping this team right the ship? Playcalling? Oooh, oooh, I know. Let\'s talk about how they still haven\'t run A MIDDLE F-CKING WEDGE ALL SEASON!!! FIRE AL EVEREST!!!! Now he needs to go. Why have the special teams turned to crap? Aren\'t we supposed to be DEEPER? Shouldn\'t that translate into better special teams play?



PS - Saintfan... did you see that? Gimme props hombre. That was straight up on Brooks.

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