Don't take MY word for it...

saintz08 · 10-23-2003, 10:30 AM

You\'re a spin doctor 08,

Spin doctor ???? You just laid off over a 100 words of presumptive garbage and still did not address the post .

And again, if you think the offense the Saints run is a \"West Coast\" offense you\'re drinkin\' too much of your own Kool-Aid.

What offense are the Saints running ??? We should alert the press .

saintfan · 10-23-2003, 10:39 AM

Presumptive Garbage? You\'d recognize that wouldn\'t you. Sure you would, because that\'s all you post.

Now, if you think the Saints are running a true West Coast Offense you\'d better think again, because NO ONE in the NFL is running a true West Coast Offense. Saying that might further your agenda where Delhomme is concerned, but I\'m not buyin\' that Snake Oil 08. Try sellin\' it on a different street corner.

Lose the agenda and post as fairly about OUR QB as you do for the one playing for Carolina and maybe I\'ll pay more attention to what you have to say. \'Til then you\'re barkin up the wrong tree. You\'ve been at this nonsense ever since the team signed Brooks. It pizzed you off and hurt your feelings. I understand that. When will you?

WhoDat · 10-23-2003, 03:08 PM

And again, if you think the offense the Saints run is a \"West Coast\" offense you\'re drinkin\' too much of your own Kool-Aid.

What offense are the Saints running ??? We should alert the press .

Very good question. What offense do you believe the Saints are running Saintfan? This year\'s team has looked more like a West Coast team than ever - in my opinion.

saintfan · 10-23-2003, 03:31 PM

It\'s been called a number of things Whodat...the \"Gulf Coast\" offense among other things.

08 trys to define the West Coast offense and then show how the Saints conform to it, but if you look back at the West Coast offense as it was cenceived this surely ain\'t it. Is it a variation? Well, in my opinion MOST teams are running a VARIATION, but one cannot say we are a \"West Coast\" offense cause we\'re not. Not in the purest form.

We run what we run. Futhermore the issue isn\'t the offense we\'re running, it\'s 08\'s attempt to indicate that Brooks isn\'t the right guy for it...whatever you call it. You know as well as I do that he\'ll try and show Brooks is incapable or inadequit for WHATEVER this team does offensively. His agenda puts him squarely opposite of fairplay Whodat. I\'m quite surprised to see you coming to his rescue!

saintz08 · 10-23-2003, 04:27 PM

Well, in my opinion MOST teams are running a VARIATION, but one cannot say we are a \"West Coast\" offense cause we\'re not. Not in the purest form.

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What variation are the Saints running ???

Define it ...............

What was significant about the Falcons game , as opposed to 6 other games this season ??

saintfan · 10-23-2003, 04:29 PM

How would you know if I told you. Weren\'t you watching the Panthers game?

saintfan · 10-23-2003, 04:41 PM

OK 08, I\'ll bite. You\'re fun to screw with anyway. The less sense you make the more obvious you become and I know there are a least a few members on this board like me that probably get a pretty good kick out of watching you squirm.

Remember this is just my OPINION ok?

The West Coast offense in it\'s purest form uses short timing-based patters with up to 5 receivers in the formation. In it\'s \"purest\" form is employs the short passing attack to replace the running game.

Now, that\'s my definition ok? Do the Saints run a \"variation\" of that. Perhaps. There are LOTS of teams that run a variation of the original \"West Coast\" offense, but it\'s become a catch phrase and is accurate only if you are willing to grant some pretty generous edges to the definition.

AND, since you don\'t wanna answer it on the other thread I started, I\'ll ask you here too. Which team will you be rooting for come Sunday? Or should I say which Player?

saintz08 · 10-23-2003, 04:54 PM

Saintsfan , do you need glasses like Billy ????

The question was :
What was significant about the Falcons game , as opposed to 6 other games this season ??

Your reply :
How would you know if I told you. Weren\'t you watching the Panthers game?

Put down the crack pipe and back away from the keyboard , Saintsfan .

Now on to :

The West Coast offense in it\'s purest form uses short timing-based patters with up to 5 receivers in the formation. In it\'s \"purest\" form is employs the short passing attack to replace the running game.

I hope you meant :
In it\'s \" Purest \" form it employs a short passing attack to set up the running game .

Now on to :

OK 08, I\'ll bite. You\'re fun to screw with anyway. The less sense you make the more obvious you become and I know there are a least a few members on this board like me that probably get a pretty good kick out of watching you squirm.

F.Y.I. :

That squirming sensation is me trying to make sense out of what you post ....

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-24-2003, 12:28 AM

08 --

Let me clear something up for you about why the west coast offense was ever invented. It was invented because of a lack of a quality running back. They used the short passing game to compensate for the LACK of a running game. It also used possession type receivers. Does this sound anything like what the Saints are doing?

The Saints use the run to set up the pass, which is not what the west coast offense does. Furthermore, we don\'t dink and dunk the ball down the field. If it makes you happy to say we run the west coast offense so you can further your agenda by saying Brooks is wrong for the system. Then, by all means -- Knock Yourself Out --

saintfan · 10-24-2003, 08:24 AM

I MEANT exactly what I typed 08. The West Coast Offense was designed exactly as I and Billy have stated. The short, timing-based passing routes were designed to circumvent the running game.

The West Coast offense most certainly does NOT NOT NOT use the short timing-base routes to \"set up the running game\". Brother, you\'re dead wrong...as usual.

Your explanation would only be valid in a particular Star Trek episode called \"Mirror, Mirror\". Watch it and then you\'ll understand what I mean.

You\'re a spin doctor with an agenda...old and tired my man...old and tired...

10-23-2003, 10:30 AM	#41
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Don't take MY word for it... You\'re a spin doctor 08, Spin doctor ???? You just laid off over a 100 words of presumptive garbage and still did not address the post . And again, if you think the offense the Saints run is a \"West Coast\" offense you\'re drinkin\' too much of your own Kool-Aid. What offense are the Saints running ??? We should alert the press .
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10-23-2003, 10:39 AM	#42
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Don't take MY word for it... Presumptive Garbage? You\'d recognize that wouldn\'t you. Sure you would, because that\'s all you post. Now, if you think the Saints are running a true West Coast Offense you\'d better think again, because NO ONE in the NFL is running a true West Coast Offense. Saying that might further your agenda where Delhomme is concerned, but I\'m not buyin\' that Snake Oil 08. Try sellin\' it on a different street corner. Lose the agenda and post as fairly about OUR QB as you do for the one playing for Carolina and maybe I\'ll pay more attention to what you have to say. \'Til then you\'re barkin up the wrong tree. You\'ve been at this nonsense ever since the team signed Brooks. It pizzed you off and hurt your feelings. I understand that. When will you?
	C'mon Man...

10-23-2003, 03:08 PM	#43
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Don't take MY word for it... And again, if you think the offense the Saints run is a \"West Coast\" offense you\'re drinkin\' too much of your own Kool-Aid. What offense are the Saints running ??? We should alert the press . Very good question. What offense do you believe the Saints are running Saintfan? This year\'s team has looked more like a West Coast team than ever - in my opinion.
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10-23-2003, 03:31 PM	#44
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Don't take MY word for it... It\'s been called a number of things Whodat...the \"Gulf Coast\" offense among other things. 08 trys to define the West Coast offense and then show how the Saints conform to it, but if you look back at the West Coast offense as it was cenceived this surely ain\'t it. Is it a variation? Well, in my opinion MOST teams are running a VARIATION, but one cannot say we are a \"West Coast\" offense cause we\'re not. Not in the purest form. We run what we run. Futhermore the issue isn\'t the offense we\'re running, it\'s 08\'s attempt to indicate that Brooks isn\'t the right guy for it...whatever you call it. You know as well as I do that he\'ll try and show Brooks is incapable or inadequit for WHATEVER this team does offensively. His agenda puts him squarely opposite of fairplay Whodat. I\'m quite surprised to see you coming to his rescue!
	C'mon Man...

10-23-2003, 04:27 PM	#45
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Don't take MY word for it... Well, in my opinion MOST teams are running a VARIATION, but one cannot say we are a \"West Coast\" offense cause we\'re not. Not in the purest form. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What variation are the Saints running ??? Define it ............... What was significant about the Falcons game , as opposed to 6 other games this season ??
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10-23-2003, 04:29 PM	#46
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Don't take MY word for it... How would you know if I told you. Weren\'t you watching the Panthers game?

10-23-2003, 04:41 PM	#47
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Don't take MY word for it... OK 08, I\'ll bite. You\'re fun to screw with anyway. The less sense you make the more obvious you become and I know there are a least a few members on this board like me that probably get a pretty good kick out of watching you squirm. Remember this is just my OPINION ok? The West Coast offense in it\'s purest form uses short timing-based patters with up to 5 receivers in the formation. In it\'s \"purest\" form is employs the short passing attack to replace the running game. Now, that\'s my definition ok? Do the Saints run a \"variation\" of that. Perhaps. There are LOTS of teams that run a variation of the original \"West Coast\" offense, but it\'s become a catch phrase and is accurate only if you are willing to grant some pretty generous edges to the definition. AND, since you don\'t wanna answer it on the other thread I started, I\'ll ask you here too. Which team will you be rooting for come Sunday? Or should I say which Player?
	C'mon Man...

10-23-2003, 04:54 PM	#48
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Don't take MY word for it... Saintsfan , do you need glasses like Billy ???? The question was : What was significant about the Falcons game , as opposed to 6 other games this season ?? Your reply : How would you know if I told you. Weren\'t you watching the Panthers game? Put down the crack pipe and back away from the keyboard , Saintsfan . Now on to : The West Coast offense in it\'s purest form uses short timing-based patters with up to 5 receivers in the formation. In it\'s \"purest\" form is employs the short passing attack to replace the running game. I hope you meant : In it\'s \" Purest \" form it employs a short passing attack to set up the running game . Now on to : OK 08, I\'ll bite. You\'re fun to screw with anyway. The less sense you make the more obvious you become and I know there are a least a few members on this board like me that probably get a pretty good kick out of watching you squirm. F.Y.I. : That squirming sensation is me trying to make sense out of what you post ....
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

10-24-2003, 12:28 AM	#49
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Don't take MY word for it... 08 -- Let me clear something up for you about why the west coast offense was ever invented. It was invented because of a lack of a quality running back. They used the short passing game to compensate for the LACK of a running game. It also used possession type receivers. Does this sound anything like what the Saints are doing? The Saints use the run to set up the pass, which is not what the west coast offense does. Furthermore, we don\'t dink and dunk the ball down the field. If it makes you happy to say we run the west coast offense so you can further your agenda by saying Brooks is wrong for the system. Then, by all means -- Knock Yourself Out --
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10-24-2003, 08:24 AM	#50
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Don't take MY word for it... I MEANT exactly what I typed 08. The West Coast Offense was designed exactly as I and Billy have stated. The short, timing-based passing routes were designed to circumvent the running game. The West Coast offense most certainly does NOT NOT NOT use the short timing-base routes to \"set up the running game\". Brother, you\'re dead wrong...as usual. Your explanation would only be valid in a particular Star Trek episode called \"Mirror, Mirror\". Watch it and then you\'ll understand what I mean. You\'re a spin doctor with an agenda...old and tired my man...old and tired...
	C'mon Man...