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darstep 09-23-2010 03:18 PM

3rd and Short
 
I have been watching the Saints try to impose their will on other teams in short yardage situations, and I'm just besides myself. Two tight ends, and more than 1500 pounds of pure manhood across the front - and that's only counting our side of the ball. Then we wonder why there are no seams or gaps for PT, Reggie, Evans or anyone else to squeeze through to get 1 or 2 yards. Spread the field! PLEASE! We could still run the ball if we wanted to. It would be much easier for PT and the rest to pick their opening (if there is one) or to turn their shoulder past a defender and drive forward to get the yards. Here is the best part: Drew Brees. I would rather have 6 options to pick up the yards as opposed to 2. QB sneak, play action, roll-out and tuck-it, off guard/tackle left or right, button hook, sit down, stop-and-go, quick slant, 5-and-out, and on and on and on. I trust Brees to make that call based on what he sees at the line of scrimage, depending on the coverage. 3rd-and-1 should look no different than 2nd-and-5, IMO. It seems like we are limiting our own success by shrinking the area of coverage. Sustaining drives will help us continue our winning ways.

st thomas 09-23-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 248685)
I have been watching the Saints try to impose their will on other teams in short yardage situations, and I'm just besides myself. Two tight ends, and more than 1500 pounds of pure manhood across the front - and that's only counting our side of the ball. Then we wonder why there are no seams or gaps for PT, Reggie, Evans or anyone else to squeeze through to get 1 or 2 yards. Spread the field! PLEASE! We could still run the ball if we wanted to. It would be much easier for PT and the rest to pick their opening (if there is one) or to turn their shoulder past a defender and drive forward to get the yards. Here is the best part: Drew Brees. I would rather have 6 options to pick up the yards as opposed to 2. QB sneak, play action, roll-out and tuck-it, off guard/tackle left or right, button hook, sit down, stop-and-go, quick slant, 5-and-out, and on and on and on. I trust Brees to make that call based on what he sees at the line of scrimage, depending on the coverage. 3rd-and-1 should look no different than 2nd-and-5, IMO. It seems like we are limiting our own success by shrinking the area of coverage. Sustaining drives will help us continue our winning ways.

i cannot disagree with u d-step. when were in tight our out come has been a bad percentage since payton has arrived. they know were stuffing it and they load the box with two in your face LBs. maybe spreading it out might up our percentage. our line is built for the pass and the whole league knows it.

homerj07 09-23-2010 08:17 PM

That 3-4 defense always screws with us!!

Rugby Saint II 09-23-2010 08:36 PM

3rd and short has been tough for the Saints so far. Payton should take care of that against Atlanta.

Euphoria 09-23-2010 10:48 PM

I love it...

Arm-chair quarterbacking the defending Super Bowl Champions while they are only 2-0.

st thomas 09-24-2010 12:11 AM

1st and goal from the 1
2nd and goal from the 1/2
3rd and goal from the 1
bring in money = 3 points

its going to happen when were down 7-8 points.
we need to fix this now. i'm not a bandwagoneer, i'm a concerned fan

xan 09-24-2010 07:37 AM

I'd like to see them bring that "heavy" package, line up initially like it's a dive play, then spread them all like its a 3 wide...should be easy to see who's got the chump.

SapperSaint 09-24-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 248788)
That 3-4 defense always screws with us!!

I would think that since they practice against it, they would have a better chance at being successful against the 3-4. Kinda wierd IMO.


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