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Seer1 10-18-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 255067)
If we have 4th and 4 or under, i would not at all be suprised to see payton call a - Fake Field Goal QB bootleg, with chase daniel - We know daniel has got some mobility!

Nope. In order for a fake to work, you need an effective play to fake out of. For example, in order for a play action pass to work you need a good running game. To see a good running game, check out the Saints- Bucs game yesterday. For a fake field goal to work, you need a decent kicking game.
For a poor example of a good kicking game, watch the Saints - Bucs game yesterday. We're gonna drop Hartley to make room for another of these good looking running backs we keep coming across. Maybe we could teach Jones or Betts to kick field goals....

Saint_LB 10-18-2010 01:51 PM

...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno.

Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO

dizzle88 10-18-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 255213)
...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno.

Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO

That comes with the Job, every kicker no matter how consistent will miss an important kick in their career. Its a given, every QB will make a dumb throw, Every WR will drop an easy pass etc
The thing that frustrates me is that hartley has said all this stuff about he will make sure he's on top of his game from now on, then has the nerve to blame chase daniel on the miss cuz of the hold.

LBCutta 10-18-2010 02:13 PM

I used to live in Houston and was stuck watching the Texans on Sundays. And Kris Brown was pretty automatic inside of 45 yards.....he is 77% for his career which is pretty good. So why are we wasting our time with Hartley? Its about 5-10 kickers sitting at home that are clearly better than Hartley right now.

Cruize 10-18-2010 02:45 PM

I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL.

73Saint 10-18-2010 03:37 PM

Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

QBREES9 10-18-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by poydras (Post 255071)
I was on the way back from New Orleans yesterday and missed the game. Did we miss some more field goals?

Yeah but he's our kicker.

exile 10-18-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rfenasci (Post 255258)
Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

Yeah I found that odd as well. Maybe Morestead still has a bit of that original injury. Hartley did good on the kickoffs though.

Beastmode 10-18-2010 04:31 PM

Hartley is young. Maybe he could have been more diplomatic with Chase but that comes with experience. I firmly believe it has more to do with an inexperienced holder than Hartley at this point.


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