Why in the hell do people think we will be any better when Bush and Pierre come back?

saintsfan1976 · 10-25-2010, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Reggie and PT missing cannot be excuse. Ivory, Betts and Julius played okay. We just got beat by the Browns third-string RB going into the season, Hillis. And their third string rookie QB to boot.

Okay folks - AGAIN - we were beat by ourselves. Four friggin turnovers??? C'mon...

The Browns played a mistake-free and pretty safe game. Their trick plays worked and they made some spectacularly wild pick 6 plays.

The Saints are their own worst enemy at this point.

saintsfan1976 · 10-25-2010, 10:46 AM

And I swear, if I hear one more person say that Colt McCoy (9 completions and 74 yds) beat us - I'm gonna EXPLODE.

Rugby Saint II · 10-25-2010, 01:17 PM

It's like playing chess......the fewer power pieces that you have on the board the less power you have. If you have only a king and your pawns left you can be outplayed by an inferior strategy. As a team we are limited to playing with what we have available.

st thomas · 10-25-2010, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by 504state

I am seeing post after post claiming that once Reggie and Pierre get back we will be fine. I am so sick and tired of hearing people repeat this dribble. Our offense was crap in the first two games of the season when Reggie and Pierre were in. We barely beat Minney and SF who have a whopping 1 win between the two of them. Reggie has missed signifigant playing time every season since we have drafted him and we have done fine in the past without him. In fact up until this year we had a better record with him out than when we he was in. I am not saying we are a better team without him, but he single handedly does not make or break this team. Our problems will continue when he is in the lineup if #1 Brees continues to play shakey, 2 or offensive line does not tighten up, and 3 our special teams remain porous.

504, i agree with you about reggie and pt we can still win without the 2 guys, they are a big part of our schemes and gameplans but have won without them. if your like me you knew it was'nt going to be the game we wanted on our first posession. we came out sluggest, from the play's called to the blocking. we continue to play down to the record's instead of the competition that being said (like paytons speech) the nfl has no competition level to me its the damm nfl. any given sunday you can get your ass kicked. we have not got off of the float in the parade yet, we did'nt stop writing our books. (i bought them)when we decide just play saints football we will be back. its so simple. when a player catches a first down pass at the 50 then parades himself almost to the endzone to let everyone know that it was him and not the 10 other players that helped him catch the ball and were down ( losing) by whatever. were still on the float. when a player has a chance to stop a huge run by a punter and gets juked (or was it a juke) into submission, were still on the float. i pissed just like the next guy. now i'm telling everyone that we will beat pittsburg without ease.

BIGEASY504 · 10-25-2010, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Our offense will be better when both get back... especially PT. Our screen game is a big part of our offense and without PT, we aren't getting any explosive plays from them anymore.

This is a coaching issue all the way although I feel Payton can do more with Bush and Thomas but Ivory and Jones can handle it it just the fear factor the Bush brings to the table along with his speed of coarse!! But the coaching staff has do a better job

10-25-2010, 10:45 AM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by neugey Reggie and PT missing cannot be excuse. Ivory, Betts and Julius played okay. We just got beat by the Browns third-string RB going into the season, Hillis. And their third string rookie QB to boot. Okay folks - AGAIN - we were beat by ourselves. Four friggin turnovers??? C'mon... The Browns played a mistake-free and pretty safe game. Their trick plays worked and they made some spectacularly wild pick 6 plays. The Saints are their own worst enemy at this point.

10-25-2010, 01:44 PM	#14
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by 504state I am seeing post after post claiming that once Reggie and Pierre get back we will be fine. I am so sick and tired of hearing people repeat this dribble. Our offense was crap in the first two games of the season when Reggie and Pierre were in. We barely beat Minney and SF who have a whopping 1 win between the two of them. Reggie has missed signifigant playing time every season since we have drafted him and we have done fine in the past without him. In fact up until this year we had a better record with him out than when we he was in. I am not saying we are a better team without him, but he single handedly does not make or break this team. Our problems will continue when he is in the lineup if #1 Brees continues to play shakey, 2 or offensive line does not tighten up, and 3 our special teams remain porous. 504, i agree with you about reggie and pt we can still win without the 2 guys, they are a big part of our schemes and gameplans but have won without them. if your like me you knew it was'nt going to be the game we wanted on our first posession. we came out sluggest, from the play's called to the blocking. we continue to play down to the record's instead of the competition that being said (like paytons speech) the nfl has no competition level to me its the damm nfl. any given sunday you can get your ass kicked. we have not got off of the float in the parade yet, we did'nt stop writing our books. (i bought them)when we decide just play saints football we will be back. its so simple. when a player catches a first down pass at the 50 then parades himself almost to the endzone to let everyone know that it was him and not the 10 other players that helped him catch the ball and were down ( losing) by whatever. were still on the float. when a player has a chance to stop a huge run by a punter and gets juked (or was it a juke) into submission, were still on the float. i pissed just like the next guy. now i'm telling everyone that we will beat pittsburg without ease.
	thats the fact jack!!!!!

10-25-2010, 04:41 PM	#15
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Originally Posted by papz Our offense will be better when both get back... especially PT. Our screen game is a big part of our offense and without PT, we aren't getting any explosive plays from them anymore. This is a coaching issue all the way although I feel Payton can do more with Bush and Thomas but Ivory and Jones can handle it it just the fear factor the Bush brings to the table along with his speed of coarse!! But the coaching staff has do a better job
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10-25-2010, 10:46 AM	#12
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	And I swear, if I hear one more person say that Colt McCoy (9 completions and 74 yds) beat us - I'm gonna EXPLODE.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	It's like playing chess......the fewer power pieces that you have on the board the less power you have. If you have only a king and your pawns left you can be outplayed by an inferior strategy. As a team we are limited to playing with what we have available.