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Saintswrath 11-09-2010 01:27 AM

Dallas a potential landing spot for Sean Payton in offseason?
 
Jim Henderson and WWLTV.com Sports Writer Bradley Handwerger about how long they expect Sean Payton will stay as coach of the New Orleans Saints.

Question asked: Is Sean payton a possibility for Jerry Jones in Dallas in the offseason since Jerry Jones and Sean have a great relationship and Sean always wanted to coach a big market team..


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My thoughts.
His contract in New Orleans expires in 2012 so if we were to lose Sean we'd get a huge incentive from Dallas possible multiple picks in the drafts, some conditional picks and if John Gruden wants to Coach again im sure Saints would be his top choice.. So it's a possible win-win situation for Saints.

Or would you be ticked off the Coach chose more money and big market over being a possible Saints legacy coach?

What do you guys think?

|Mitch| 11-09-2010 01:34 AM

I'd hate and would be a little ticked off if Sean left. I don't see it happening though.

LBCutta 11-09-2010 02:05 AM

I dont think he leaves. But I would love for Chucky to come in!

jnormand 11-09-2010 03:55 AM

Not going to happen. Sean Payton isn't going anywhere.

Choupique 11-09-2010 05:24 AM

What a texican sized load of horse hooey.

Why leave a fun city like Nawlins for the lamest city in America?

Dallas blows. Who would want to move there!?

TheKillerBs 11-09-2010 07:07 AM

The guy brought the Lombardi trophy to New Orleans. Tom Benson will probably pay him anything he wants to keep him here.

lynwood 11-09-2010 07:28 AM

I'd find it hard for him to leave a place where he pretty much has the control he wants for a place that is ran by JJ. It would be Coaching Suicide. Jason Garret will probably hold on to the Job unless Cower or Gruden step in.

Also I'm surprised that Hendersen would bring up this topic this time of the season. Seems like an un-needed distraction.

SapperSaint 11-09-2010 07:29 AM

I would compare SP leaving New Orleans to Nick Saban leaving LSU.

Sean is solid for life in NOLA. He brought us what we thought we would never have. If he "Does" leave, he will be black listed in the Sappers Book of Shame, forever. Right by Nick Saban.

As far as Chucky goes....yeah, I would be happy with him.

neugey 11-09-2010 07:31 AM

I'm more worried about them sniping GW.

lynwood 11-09-2010 07:33 AM

I don't think Gruden would be a good fit here with the offense Sean has put together. I don't see John and Brees working together the same. Also gotta wonder if Sean Goes will Drew follow? Sean has it easy,has power, has respect,has the control, it wouldn't make sense.

saintsfan1976 11-09-2010 08:02 AM

Dallas' problem lies with their coaching. They have all the talent in the world, but no one to drive the bus.

the-commish 11-09-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintswrath (Post 260691)
Jim Henderson and WWLTV.com Sports Writer Bradley Handwerger about how long they expect Sean Payton will stay as coach of the New Orleans Saints.

Question asked: Is Sean payton a possibility for Jerry Jones in Dallas in the offseason since Jerry Jones and Sean have a great relationship and Sean always wanted to coach a big market team..




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My thoughts.
His contract in New Orleans expires in 2012 so if we were to lose Sean we'd get a huge incentive from Dallas possible multiple picks in the drafts, some conditional picks and if John Gruden wants to Coach again im sure Saints would be his top choice.. So it's a possible win-win situation for Saints.

Or would you be ticked off the Coach chose more money and big market over being a possible Saints legacy coach?

What do you guys think?

Sean Payton isn't going anywhere.

While it may be that Jason Garrett may not be Wade Phillips' permanent replacement, I don't think Jerry Jones stands much chance of landing Sean Payton. Mike Holmgren might be getting anxious to be on the sidelines again, and Mike Martz is a self-proclaimed offensive genius that Jones could pluck from the Bears. If Jones is smart, he will choose an offensive-minded coach for his team (maybe he should also fire himself as GM, and break down and hire one who has actual football knowledge).

fhotard 11-09-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the-commish (Post 260763)
maybe he should also fire himself as GM, and break down and hire one who has actual football knowledge.

Agree 100%!

Jerry is kind of like Al Davis... but not quite as scary looking. Close, but not quite.

Halo 11-09-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCutta (Post 260699)
I dont think he leaves. But I would love for Chucky to come in!

Nope. Hate for Peyton to leave, wouldn't mind if COHWER came in.

saintfan 11-09-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 260736)
John Fox will be the new Dallas head coach....bank on it

That's where my money is.

73Saint 11-09-2010 11:27 AM

I think Payton realizes he has a gem in Loomis, and how our front office is operated. The talent pool, and culture, and all that goes on behind the scenes gives SP a lot more flexibility than I think he would ever have in Dallas. Payton stays.

Dasidreidia 11-09-2010 11:34 AM

Payton has a job here as long as he wants one. If he even makes an offhand comment about leaving, NOLA will start a "Keep Sean Payton in New Orleans fund" and raise a ton of money to keep him there.

SaintPauly 11-09-2010 11:37 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

saintfan 11-09-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhotard (Post 260766)
Agree 100%!

Jerry is kind of like Al Davis... but not quite as scary looking.


...yet...

SaintPauly 11-09-2010 12:13 PM

Some folks on here, have said, that if Greg Williams leaves, they want to get John Fox. Now, I just have to say, that I think Marvin Lewis is going to be let go from Cincy this year. He was the coach of the Ravens superbowl defense. I think I would rather go after him. Would mean switching to a 3-4 though, I believe.

Rugby Saint II 11-09-2010 01:44 PM

Payton isn't going anywhere.........Read his book and it will give you some insight into how he thinks. He has it good here. Loomis and (Rita) Benson have given him complete control from the cooking staff up. That wouldn't happen in Dallas.......well, Parcells and Jimmy Johnson were good but had total control. Jerry Jones will try to get him to go to Dallas but Jerry Jones is the problem with the Cowbys. Does anybody remember Payton drinking Jones' bottle of champagne?
Maybe Al Davis and Jerry Jones should merge their teams.:whatever:

saintsfan1976 11-09-2010 01:57 PM

John Gruden.

vpheughan 11-10-2010 06:35 AM

Everyone knows Jerry Jones is the problem. Jimmy Johnson told the world that, he had all he could take. We had the same problem prior to Benson buying the team. You hire football people and go sit in your owners box and wave at the crowd. JJ can't, he has to be the "Owner Genius" behind the team. This is a great example of "What If" journalism thought Jim Henderson had more class than that. Here's one for you Jim. "What If Buddy D was still around, would he be more popular than you?"

Ashley 11-10-2010 07:40 AM

No way he goes any time soon.

xan 11-10-2010 12:09 PM

Why would anyone take the Dallas Flunky job?

That whole organization is all hat and no cattle.

papz 11-10-2010 12:45 PM

I don't think Jones could land Payton. Unless that head coach is given full control over personnel, I can't see a top notch coach going to Dallas to be Jones' puppet. Heck the next HC of the Dallas Cowboys could very well be Jerry Jones... I wouldn't put it past him.

jcp026 11-10-2010 01:08 PM

I don't know why Payton would go to Dallas and, since Williams isn't a push over, I don't think Gregg will be on the Jerry Jones wish list. There's talk of John Fox ending up there. That'll be great if they want to slowly run the team into the ground over the next several years.

CashAndFlash 11-10-2010 01:42 PM

I read Payton's book.


It seemed from what he wrote that he and Jones had a very good relationship.

I still don't think he leaves, because Benson would have to be crazy to kill the mojo he's built up over his years here, but stranger things have happened.

504state 11-10-2010 01:57 PM

Would suck if he pulled the old Willie Beaman like in Any Given Sunday. If Dallas just hangs out a year and plays for draft picks they could potentially get both Sean and Brees for free in 2012. That is what I would do if I was the Cowboys and wanted Payton.

st thomas 11-10-2010 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 260736)
John Fox will be the new Dallas head coach....bank on it

good call strat
many were talking this morning on the fox-dallas connection. they were some liked it and some did'nt. they think jerry would rather someone coming in on a roll not a tailspin. i think fox lands in denver.

breesfan27 11-10-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 260779)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

My sentiments exactly.

I will drive my happy ass down to Dallas and beat JJ within an inch of his life if he takes Payton from us.

Believe dat!

AlaskaSaints 11-10-2010 04:29 PM

Can't think of anything I'd rather NOT talk about now than this! WTF?!

You couldn't trade me the next entire first round of draft-pick rookies for Payton and Brees. Let Dallas keep building. They build it just to tear it down. Remember Jimmy Johnson?! Jerry Jones doesn't want only winning, he wants a hobby team to keep building and destroying. Like a spoiled-azz kid after a perfect Christmas.

To me, this team just doesn't feel that fragile that it could be broken up overnight. If we play it right, we get a repeat in Super Bowl 45. That is a reality right now. No fool in his right mind would break that up until the gas runs out on its own.

Alaska

alleycat_126 11-10-2010 09:16 PM

Sean ain't going nowhere..... and

Before we crown Gruden, how soon we forget. His Oakland team crumbled even before the superbowl they made it to ever happened, and he bales for greener pastures and Tony Dungy's team. His superbowl can be attributed to Dungy a hell of a lot,

Trust me I like Gruden, but History shows us these coaches, Switser, Gruden aren't built to last

foreverfan 11-10-2010 10:58 PM

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Saintswrath 11-10-2010 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alleycat126 (Post 261171)
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Before we crown Gruden, how soon we forget. His Oakland team crumbled even before the superbowl they made it to ever happened, and he bales for greener pastures and Tony Dungy's team. His superbowl can be attributed to Dungy a hell of a lot,

Trust me I like Gruden, but History shows us these coaches, Switser, Gruden aren't built to last

Before you toss the idea about Gruden we need to make sure all the facts on that is laid out..

The fresh Grudenless Raiders went to the Superbowl the Same year he took Tony Dungy's Superbowl Team there, So he should get 1 1/2 credit for Superbowls if we're going to say he took Tony Dungy's team to the Superbowl, can't be a hypocrite about one and not the other.. Both teams he was involved with..

When he left the Raiders they were on the up and up they... well went to the Superbowl, after he left is when the franchise went into a downward spiral, the coach that took the reign after him lost the locker room, the ownership lost the confidence and the raiders lost the fight, they had to rebuild, they were also a very aging team when Gruden left..

Gruden was selected by the buc's because Bill Parcel's debacle, he told Tampa he was going to coach for them and then bailed out at the very last few weeks before training camp was going to start, Buc's scrambled, they went after the most successful coach that had an expiring contract and Gruden took them up on that very expensive offer, they had no choice but to pay top dollar and offer trades they knew would eventually cripple the Buc's for a few years but was willing to sacrifice it, Buc's was about to start the season without a Head Coach.

You can say Buc's bought themselves a Superbowl, it's what i've said for a long time, they dropped Dungy because he just always fell short, and they were looking for someone to light an extra fire under that team, it worked, it was either going to be Bill or Gruden both Fire cracker coaches.

Raiders failed themselves, Gruden did nothing to cause that failure..
Now the Buc's after the Superbowl might be more of Grudens fault, he didn't want a GM, and when they did hire a GM he controlled that GM so in essence the hired GM was basically a Gruden puppet but if things didn't pan out the hired puppet served as a buffer for Gruden.... Buc's finally decided it was time to let him go as well eventually and just rebuild.

saintsfan601 11-11-2010 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 261022)
I don't think Jones could land Payton. Unless that head coach is given full control over personnel, I can't see a top notch coach going to Dallas to be Jones' puppet. Heck the next HC of the Dallas Cowboys could very well be Jerry Jones... I wouldn't put it past him.

I think that would already be the case, if it weren't for that silly rule that says the owner can't be the head coach.

Rugby Saint II 11-11-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 261077)
My sentiments exactly.

I will drive my happy ass down to Dallas and beat JJ within an inch of his life if he takes Payton from us.

Believe dat!

Please do me a favor and just finish the job......don't do it half a$$.;)
Give that man an inch and he'll take a mile. Then screw it up and turn it into meters or something.

Choupique 11-11-2010 10:06 AM

Jjones always hires a puppet.

Payton isn't one of those.

Never happen. Bookmark it.


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