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Old 11-06-2003, 10:43 AM   #11
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Women have the right to earn a living the same as men, but certain things have to be off limits to men and women
So things should be equal but not equal? If the roles were reversed we would be up in arms about it. Think about it, you can be a trainer on the guys football team for $40 000 or on the female soccer team for $60 000. But because you can\'t go into the locker room, do you think they will hire you or someone who can go in the locker room and perform their job? Male or female deserve equal access to the players in order for things to be equal.
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Old 11-06-2003, 10:44 AM   #12
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Ultimately, I\'m not against women who WANT to go into a locker room being allowed to do so, but ya better damn well get your feelings off your sleeve before you walk through that door...period. If you enter a strip club ya just might see a nekkid lady...know what I mean?
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Old 11-06-2003, 10:48 AM   #13
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Too true
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Old 11-06-2003, 10:50 AM   #14
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Women have the right to earn a living the same as men, but certain things have to be off limits to men and women
So things should be equal but not equal? If the roles were reversed we would be up in arms about it. Think about it, you can be a trainer on the guys football team for $40 000 or on the female soccer team for $60 000. But because you can\'t go into the locker room, do you think they will hire you or someone who can go in the locker room and perform their job? Male or female deserve equal access to the players in order for things to be equal.
There\'s a reason there are signs on the doors of public restrooms. They say either \"MEN\" or \"WOMEN.\" Do you want women going in the MEN\'s room? Forget money. It would be uncomfortable wouldn\'t it? I see no difference with women going into a MEN\'s locker room. It\'s just uncomfortable for all involved. If you really want to get down to it -- If you had a teenage girl playing high school ball -- would you want a male coach in her locker room while she is getting undressed?

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Old 11-06-2003, 11:02 AM   #15
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I\'ve always thought the answer to this is simple. NO ONE gets interviews in a locker room...period...male and female reporters get equal access after the game OUTSIDE the locker room. If you\'re a lady and you\'re in the sports medicine profession and your job requires you to enter the locker room then fine, but if some guy drops his pants and says, \"hey lady, look at this\", being offended isn\'t an option, and neither is a lawsuit. Sexual harassment is a whole other thing, and I realize that WHERE to draw that line is the problem, but I also believe that if people weren\'t so damned interested in being \"politically correct\" most of this stuff would just go away...as it should. If you\'re not brave enough to take a little prodding (no pun intended) then you have no business in that profession or subjecting yourself to such. Amen...pass the whiskey.

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Old 11-06-2003, 12:29 PM   #16
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I just started thinkng about it...how much could I get for all the locker room humor I had to sit through as a player? Who\'s with me? I\'m going to start a class action lawsuit for all the guys who were so emotionally damaged by seeing 300lb. lineman in the buff! Why should women get all the money? Let\'s not stop there, let\'s sue for the playground bullies picking on us as kids in elementary school, that had to do some damage and while were at it why doesn\'t Peyton counter-sue for the emotinal wreck he has become at the word of this woman? Let\'s see, 33 counts of sexual harrassement, puullleeeaaaase! Sounds like a person with an ax to grind, I would hate to be her husband. He must be one emotional wreck himself...of course $300,000 would help calm the spirit don\'t you think?
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Old 11-06-2003, 12:38 PM   #17
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Ok, I agree with the point that NO reporters should be allowed in the locker room. Period! However this lady deserved to be in the locker room as a medical professional. Should she expect to come to work every day and get treated like this because she is a woman? Nope. I have a female physician, does she look at my private parts. Sure she does. Do I make lewd gestures to her while she is doing it? Nope, but if I did, would I expect to get a reprimand (fine/sued/ect). I would think so.
Billy’s argument about male and female washrooms is not valid, as we are not talking washrooms. I wouldn’t want a male or female in the washroom with me just watching what I was doing. We are talking about a woman who has a right to be at her job and should expect to be treated respectfully. I personally find the whole lawsuit ridiculous, and I would like to say to people like her “find a sense of humor�. But the fact remains that Peyton acted improperly. Do you think that his head coach would accept losing face in front of the rest of the team? I don’t, and I don’t think that any staff member should.
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OH CANADA! You\'d expect 300 THOUSAND dollars cause somebody showed you their booty? Male or Female that\'s insane! You know what they say about not being able to take the heat right? Damn canadians...

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Old 11-06-2003, 12:59 PM   #19
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hahahaha.
just to clear things up here\'s how I started this thread
Don’t know why I’m responding to this, I guess I’m just feeling like a Devil’s Advocate today.
So now things are back in context, yea I think it is ridiculous. But I also think that someone suing McDonalds over spilling hot coffee on their lap is pretty ridiculous as well.
I was just arguing for the point that women should be given equal rights in the locker room as males. I\'m not on her side. But I do wonder what would happen if he had done that to one of the male staff or one of the coaches.
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Women can come on in if they like, but it\'s VERY likely that they\'ll see some things or experience some things in there that they might not otherwise experience. If you can\'t run with the big dogs, stay your azz on the porch. To sue over it is petty and in my opinion a waste of judicial resources. They oughta throw her butt in jail for filing the lawsuit, and they should toss her lawyer in there with her....and their cell mate should be a big Grady Jackson like fella with questionable morals.
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