Chris Ivory

Memnoch_TP · 12-06-2010, 02:48 PM

Really, to hell with Beanie Wells.

And I'm a PT23 fan but I think we can upgrade him, and Ivory may well be that upgrade.

Danno · 12-06-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP

Really, to hell with Beanie Wells.

And I'm a PT23 fan but I think we can upgrade him, and Ivory may well be that upgrade.

I'd rather have PT and Ivory than Bush and Ivory.

Bush is one I'd like to upgrade.

lumm0x · 12-06-2010, 03:03 PM

If we can find a way we try to keep all 4 same guys. Yes, any one is expendable, but as this season has shown, depth can be a huge asset. Imagine still being Betts and Wynn at this point?

BIGEASY504 · 12-06-2010, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

Okay, I have to admit, I've been slow to get on the Ivory bandwagon. But, with another strong performance against the Bengals, am I the only one who thinks we'll still be in good shape when (not if) Pierre Thomas is gone next year?

Hell, we might as well put PT on IR for the rest of this year. We don't miss him that much.

Been an Ivory fan, he runs with power and he has decent speed. He will be needed late in the season and he's built for games such as those. He is going to be key against the Ravens. Not since Deuce we've haven't had a power runner. He has now changed the face of the backfield. PT will be back he is the best besides Bush not only in open space but in the screen game. So Bush, PT, Ivory and Jones who can still ball himself.

WHODATNJ · 12-06-2010, 07:12 PM

He is one of the only guys on the team still interviewing for a permenent job. If everyone was playing to his level we would be blowing everyone away.

dasaints26 · 12-06-2010, 08:34 PM

I am a PT fan but I have been really impressed with the way Ivory runs the ball. I still think when PT gets back he will be our starting RB. He is effective running the ball and catching the ball. I think ball control is a big issue with Ivory even though Brees has two more fumbles than Ivory he handled the ball 650 more times this year. I'm OK with that from Brees a fumble every 100 times you touch the ball is better than a fumble every 30 times you touch the ball.

PT 3 fumbles in 374 rush attempts.
Ivory 4 fumbles in 123 rush attempts.
Bush 19 fumbles in 501 rush attempts.

TopCow · 12-06-2010, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by dasaints26

I am a PT fan but I have been really impressed with the way Ivory runs the ball. I still think when PT gets back he will be our starting RB. He is effective running the ball and catching the ball. I think ball control is a big issue with Ivory even though Brees has two more fumbles than Ivory he handled the ball 650 more times this year. I'm OK with that from Brees a fumble every 100 times you touch the ball is better than a fumble every 30 times you touch the ball.

PT 3 fumbles in 374 rush attempts.
Ivory 4 fumbles in 123 rush attempts.
Bush 19 fumbles in 501 rush attempts.

Good post, and you make good points. I'm not all that concerned about a rookie fumbling the ball though. Our coaching staff can clean that up.

I'm one thinks Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory can coexist and complement each other well. Thomas, Bush, Ivory, and fill-in-the-blank (I like Jones) are a formidable backfield.

504state · 12-06-2010, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

Okay, I have to admit, I've been slow to get on the Ivory bandwagon. But, with another strong performance against the Bengals, am I the only one who thinks we'll still be in good shape when (not if) Pierre Thomas is gone next year?

Hell, we might as well put PT on IR for the rest of this year. We don't miss him that much.

Idk, Ivory is tearing it up, but he does not run smart, he just relies on brute power, which will inevidibly lead to injury. He is fine as a back to keep on to use until this happens, but we need to find another back to compliment him and groom to be the feature back.

SaintPauly · 12-06-2010, 11:09 PM

Another thing to consider, yes Ivory reminds me of Duece, but how many seasons did Duece play every game? I agree, with that running style, you are going to get hurt, alot. I am on board the Ivory bandwagon though, the guy is a stud. Just hope he can stay healthy. Duece had to retire way before his time.

As far as Bush goes, Lance can pick up the slack, if Bush decides to bail. He runs the routes, knows the plays, and has a nose for the ball. Bush leaves? I'm not going to cry.

Choupique · 12-06-2010, 11:54 PM

I'm one thinks Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory can coexist and complement each other well. Thomas, Bush, Ivory, and fill-in-the-blank (I like Jones) are a formidable backfield.

It would appear Coach Payton agrees with you. This coach likes run by committee. Having said that I'm just glad we don't have ditka or some other doofus as a coach anymore.

12-06-2010, 02:54 PM	#22
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP Really, to hell with Beanie Wells. And I'm a PT23 fan but I think we can upgrade him, and Ivory may well be that upgrade. I'd rather have PT and Ivory than Bush and Ivory. Bush is one I'd like to upgrade.

12-06-2010, 05:08 PM	#24
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Originally Posted by TheKillerBs Okay, I have to admit, I've been slow to get on the Ivory bandwagon. But, with another strong performance against the Bengals, am I the only one who thinks we'll still be in good shape when (not if) Pierre Thomas is gone next year? Hell, we might as well put PT on IR for the rest of this year. We don't miss him that much. Been an Ivory fan, he runs with power and he has decent speed. He will be needed late in the season and he's built for games such as those. He is going to be key against the Ravens. Not since Deuce we've haven't had a power runner. He has now changed the face of the backfield. PT will be back he is the best besides Bush not only in open space but in the screen game. So Bush, PT, Ivory and Jones who can still ball himself.
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12-06-2010, 08:34 PM	#26
dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	I am a PT fan but I have been really impressed with the way Ivory runs the ball. I still think when PT gets back he will be our starting RB. He is effective running the ball and catching the ball. I think ball control is a big issue with Ivory even though Brees has two more fumbles than Ivory he handled the ball 650 more times this year. I'm OK with that from Brees a fumble every 100 times you touch the ball is better than a fumble every 30 times you touch the ball. PT 3 fumbles in 374 rush attempts. Ivory 4 fumbles in 123 rush attempts. Bush 19 fumbles in 501 rush attempts.
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12-06-2010, 09:58 PM	#27
TopCow 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 299	Originally Posted by dasaints26 I am a PT fan but I have been really impressed with the way Ivory runs the ball. I still think when PT gets back he will be our starting RB. He is effective running the ball and catching the ball. I think ball control is a big issue with Ivory even though Brees has two more fumbles than Ivory he handled the ball 650 more times this year. I'm OK with that from Brees a fumble every 100 times you touch the ball is better than a fumble every 30 times you touch the ball. PT 3 fumbles in 374 rush attempts. Ivory 4 fumbles in 123 rush attempts. Bush 19 fumbles in 501 rush attempts. Good post, and you make good points. I'm not all that concerned about a rookie fumbling the ball though. Our coaching staff can clean that up. I'm one thinks Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory can coexist and complement each other well. Thomas, Bush, Ivory, and fill-in-the-blank (I like Jones) are a formidable backfield.
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12-06-2010, 10:20 PM	#28
504state Banned Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 252	Originally Posted by TheKillerBs Okay, I have to admit, I've been slow to get on the Ivory bandwagon. But, with another strong performance against the Bengals, am I the only one who thinks we'll still be in good shape when (not if) Pierre Thomas is gone next year? Hell, we might as well put PT on IR for the rest of this year. We don't miss him that much. Idk, Ivory is tearing it up, but he does not run smart, he just relies on brute power, which will inevidibly lead to injury. He is fine as a back to keep on to use until this happens, but we need to find another back to compliment him and groom to be the feature back.
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12-06-2010, 02:48 PM	#21
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Really, to hell with Beanie Wells. And I'm a PT23 fan but I think we can upgrade him, and Ivory may well be that upgrade.

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12-06-2010, 03:03 PM	#23
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	If we can find a way we try to keep all 4 same guys. Yes, any one is expendable, but as this season has shown, depth can be a huge asset. Imagine still being Betts and Wynn at this point?

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WHODATNJ 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lafayette Posts: 109	He is one of the only guys on the team still interviewing for a permenent job. If everyone was playing to his level we would be blowing everyone away.

12-06-2010, 11:09 PM	#29
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Another thing to consider, yes Ivory reminds me of Duece, but how many seasons did Duece play every game? I agree, with that running style, you are going to get hurt, alot. I am on board the Ivory bandwagon though, the guy is a stud. Just hope he can stay healthy. Duece had to retire way before his time. As far as Bush goes, Lance can pick up the slack, if Bush decides to bail. He runs the routes, knows the plays, and has a nose for the ball. Bush leaves? I'm not going to cry.

12-06-2010, 11:54 PM	#30
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	I'm one thinks Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory can coexist and complement each other well. Thomas, Bush, Ivory, and fill-in-the-blank (I like Jones) are a formidable backfield. It would appear Coach Payton agrees with you. This coach likes run by committee. Having said that I'm just glad we don't have ditka or some other doofus as a coach anymore.
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