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dizzle88 12-12-2010 07:46 AM

We Need to stop Steven Jackson
 
I can vividly remember the game between these two teams last year, and whilst we struggled on a couple areas of the game - the one thing we couldn't do was stop Steven Jackson and get off the field.
Now i think everyone will agree that with the addition of Danny Clark and the higher level of play from our 2 DT's, that our Run D is better this year. However we can't shoot ourselves in the foot by letting Jackson get going, because that's what happened last year and our D suffered because of it.

Now i know this is not last year, this is a new team and a new season BUT i think we have to go with last years philosophy -

Get a real good lead early, either by turnovers or 3 and outs
Force the Rams to put the ball in Bradfords hands
Then let GW blitz the hell outta him and make him force some throws

If the Rams keep the game close, they will do it by churning the yardage out on the ground, so we need to take that away from them.

WHO DAAAAAAT!!!!!!!

alleycat_126 12-12-2010 08:35 AM

I call that the "no s*&t" strategy. We don't take no s&*t from this upstart offense early and keep em throwing to these green recievers.

Danno 12-12-2010 09:35 AM

Keep in mind we were banged up badly, and had several players not even dress...
Sedrick Ellis
Jabari Greer
Darren Sharper
Lance Moore

And unfortunately one player did play...
Charles Grant

CheramieIII 12-12-2010 09:56 AM

We're healthy on D now and Steven isn't what he once was either. If we can keep him in check and watch out for that TE that looks like a Mack Truck then we should be OK. They have nothing at WR, no backup RB's and the QB is still only a rookie.

Turbo Saint 12-12-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 269085)
The Rams have a rookie beast TE also. I cringe at the thought of Shanle and Harper trying to defend him.

why would you throw harper in there with shanle? harper has been playing awesome this season.

CashAndFlash 12-12-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Saint (Post 269098)
why would you throw harper in there with shanle? harper has been playing awesome this season.

I love Harper, but Gonzalez absolutely feasted on him.

Danno 12-12-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CashAndFlash (Post 269113)
I love Harper, but Gonzalez absolutely feasted on him.


No he didn't. Gonzalez had 1 catch on Harper (6 yards) and one bogus PI call.

CashAndFlash 12-12-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 269117)
No he didn't. Gonzalez had 1 catch on Harper and 1 PI call.

He really shook Harper up. Like I said, I like Harper, but he lost his cool that game.

Danno 12-12-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CashAndFlash (Post 269118)
He really shook Harper up. Like I said, I like Harper, but he lost his cool that game.

I didn't see that at all, unless you're talking about the PI call, which was total BS.

I saw Gonzalez get upset when Harper tackled him below the waist, but Harper kept his cool, Gonzo lost his.

CashAndFlash 12-12-2010 11:19 AM

I am talking about the pi call. It really hurt us, but it was more a veteran taking advantage of a younger player than anything. And I see that confrontation as having come out the opposite of how you do.

Danno 12-12-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CashAndFlash (Post 269122)
I am talking about the pi call. It really hurt us, but it was more a veteran taking advantage of a younger player than anything. And I see that confrontation as having come out the opposite of how you do.

It was a 2nd down play, and there were 12 minutes to go in regulation when that happened, and Gonzalez didn't catch another ball.

Looks like it shook up Gonzo more than Harper.

CashAndFlash 12-12-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 269126)
It was a 2nd down play, and there were 12 minutes to go in regulation when that happened, and Gonzalez didn't catch another ball.

Looks like it shook up Gonzo more than Harper.

I'm not going to say something stupid like "agree to disagree", but I remember distinctly seeing Harper being very shaken up by Gonzalez.

Hopefully he doesn't have an issue with the Rams TE, but when a player loses his cool, it's always cause for concern.

Danno 12-12-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CashAndFlash (Post 269128)
I'm not going to say something stupid like "agree to disagree", but I remember distinctly seeing Harper being very shaken up by Gonzalez.

Hopefully he doesn't have an issue with the Rams TE, but when a player loses his cool, it's always cause for concern.

True, but Harper was angry about the bad PI call, not by anything Gonzalez did. I've watched Harper since his Bama days, he doesn't get shaken up by other players.

CashAndFlash 12-12-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 269131)
True, but Harper was angry about the bad PI call, not by anything Gonzalez did. I've watched Harper since his Bama days, he doesn't get shaken up by other players.

Gonzalez drew that pi call, and that's what pissed Harper off. It's really the same thing.

st thomas 12-12-2010 12:59 PM

the de should totally key that guy today. make the rookie pass, it will play our way.

Danno 12-12-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 269146)
Because Harper is subpar when facing a semi-threat at TE.

Could not disagree more. He's probably the best player we have to cover TE's.

BIGEASY504 12-12-2010 04:05 PM

Harper should stay around or close to the line of scrimmage, when facing good TE's Harper is a liability. I like him a lot though!! Shanle is an overall liability run/pass and we all know he's 2nd team on any other defense

st thomas 12-12-2010 07:01 PM

we kept the pig under 100 rushing, and a fumble good day against the dude. he's legit.


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