Who do we bring back at RB in '11
 

Pick one combo.

Bush is not playing any where near his $.... We have plenty of other spots that need addressing for that amount of money.

Bush may not be back, but I'd like to have all three.
There is saftey in numbers.

What about JJ? With our injury history, I'd keep them all.

I voted for the threesome ;-)

I think it's unlikely though for all three to return in the current marketplace with salary cap and some good rookies to be had in the draft.

I said ALL three.
Isn't Reggie's contract up?
If there is no CBA, all negotiations will get stalled.
For the right money, keep all three.
That position just reaks of bruises, sprains, twists, pulls and the like.
We will need all three to get through a season in tact. Add Julius to the mix.

Really would like to see all three.

While voting, you also have to ask yourself "Do we really want to play against any of these three?" My answer is no! I voted to keep all three.

If Ivory can stay healthy (big IF) he has more upside than PT. But the way Ivory runs he is sure to have consistent injuries. And Bush just gives them a spark every time he is in there. He is the most versatile of the group easily.

Keep all 3 and JJ as well.

I just don't believe it's fiscally responsible to keep all three. I certainly wouldn't mind having all three back, but I'd keep PT and Ivory. Bush's production just doesn't justify his salary.

We need to draft a replacement for him and use the rest of his salary to fill some other gaps.

Voted all 3.

Bush has one year left on his contract; owed 11.3 million.

I know it's getting to be a Saints cliche, but Reggie really does bring a lot more to the table than just what you get when he touches the ball.

Ivory runs like a mack truck with a fiberglass body. He's not fragile, but he takes huge risks with his body, and I guess he'll just have to keep paying the price.

So that, to me, is where thomas comes in. Good, solid runner, always churning for yardage, but careful enough to be durable.

We've seen what has happened this year when we are out 2 of the 3... rb is a big injury position, and between that and our manic offensive style, I think we need all the high-quality rbs we can get.

All three :bng:

All 3

I agree with whoever said safety in numbers. Pay Pierre, Give Reggie 7.5 million and keep Ivory on his rookie deal.

Thomas is already gone in my book. He is an average RB, he isn't really fast, he doesn't run really hard. He has good vision thou but that description fits a whole lot of runningbacks. I think he could be let go an replaced by Hamilton or Hill next year. I think Bush will be back but at a lower salary thats more tied to performance. Ivory is a no-brainer for me. Get him on an NFL offseason program and he will get more durable.

there's no team out there that will pay bush the 11 mill either so we will restucture the contract so we can afford all 3.

exactly.


and thomas has something like a 5.2 yard average. he's not flashy whatsoever, but he gets the job done, and well.

I'd like all three, but Bush has to take a pay cut and Thomas can't get "Jackson money."

Payton does not put big money on RB's - and before you say anything, Reggie is more than a RB...

We saw Mike Bell the odd man out last year. I think that's Julius Jones this year.

Ivory has proven a ton in limited roles. Not bad for an UDFA.

Our scout RB's will have another chance to crack the squad, so that leaves us asking.... "Who can we get value for"?

PT seems to be the best option.

I hope all three stay but Bush is our "system guy" and Ivory is a great value. That leaves PT and the others like PJ and Lynell...

It's anyone's guess at that point.



In the draft, we'll need help at DT, LB, possibly RB and WR

PT has been shopped once already. NE wanted the house, pool, and 4 lawn chairs for him and i am glad Loomis didn't give it to them. I have a strong feeling PT will be shopped again after the SB.. We should be able to get a damned good deal for him.

Young back with 2 SB rings.... Should be worth a damned good DE and a few draft picks.

Very few running backs make it through a season without missing a few games. The way our offense is structured, we need multiple purpose personnel that can be somewhat interchangeable. The B-I-T combo have many similar skill sets, though Bush is the fastest and can create space, Thomas is the best blocker and runs better off screens, while Ivory does his best work in traffic. Each helps the other extend their capabilities: Bush sucked as a blocker and he's a lot better, Thomas is now better as an open field runner, and Ivory, well, rookies don't know anything but full steam ahead and he's learning everything (like how to hold onto the ball).

In my worst nightmare we would have to face Ivory a few years from now with another team.

I'm going to say Bush and Ivory will be are running backs next year. i for PT was shopped.

Boy, people jumped off of PT's bandwagon just as quickly as they got on it.

Not too many RB's compile 100+ yards rushing and 100+ yards receiving in their first game as a starter. Against the Bears defense no less.

Oh well. Ivory is the shiny new toy. PT who?:whatever:

We've got a nice little stable of running backs. Only thing is they are all injury prone or have a history of injuries. We lost Hamilton and PJ Hill early in the year. Bush broke his leg, PT was out for 10 weeks or so and Ivorys running style is gonna' get him hurt occasionally. I'd like to be able to resign Reggie at a lower cost and bring everybody to camp with trading options on everyone of them. Other teams have to notice how deep we are at running back.

That was 4 years ago. Since then PT has had a total of two 100 yard rushing games and zero 100 yard receiving games.

I'm still on that PT bandwagon, and have been since his rookie training camp. I'm 100% convinced he's our best RB

That shouldn't be a knock on PT at all... he's received 20 carries a grand total of 2 times since he's been here. When he touches the ball, he produces period... whether it's rushing or receiving the ball. PT is the best complete back on this team... which is why we utilize him in a variety of ways, not strictly regulated to running the football.

I was not knocking PT at all. It is just not good business to hold onto something that happened once 4 years ago.

With out a running game we are not a balanced offense. Our running game showed up with Ivory. Period.

we also won a super bowl without him.

Thanks. I almost forgot.

It's a valid point. Last year, we had pt and bush, this year we have both, plus Ivory. It doesn't have to be a 2 out of3 situation.

WHOA!!! Put on the brakes!

You guys are trading a RB and we are finally hitting on all cylinders?!
I say treat them like the receivers we have and rotate them to excellence as we have the passing game.

You want to lose somebody, and of course this will come as off-topic, LOSE from the O-Line, D-Line and of course Number 5. (I won't even speak his name again) Trust me, he has yet to let us down when we most need him. I dread that Atlanta game already for fear of that last minute over-the-top field goal we're gonna see.

All that being said, which I apologize for; Ivory, Bush, P.T., Jones, Betts, Hamilton. In that order.

The Saints are finally a near-COMPLETE team. I honestly think we are in a better state, not division position however, than last year!

Alaska

By the way.

That field goat will go wide LEFT. Dammmit!
(crossing my fingers that I'm dead wrong)

Alaska

Cashandflash and AlaskaSaints:

No, I do not want to loose anyone. I love having ALL of them!
This thread is about next year. Which will be a Salary Capped year, unlike this year.

Ivory is in a rookie contract so there is not much to discuss about him.

PT... well it is not news to anyone that he wants more money and could have "possibly" been holding out for more money.

Bush... He has yet to prove that he is worth what we are paying him. He has games where he is down right spectacular, but he also has games where he is extremely unproductive.

Bush would have to take a cut. We need to shore up other areas.

We all complain about certain aspects of our game, certain players, etc... There is actually one word that sums up what we need to work on and it has been our biggest issue as far back as i can remember... Consistency!

We can not be consistent with extremely hot and cold players.

It was an example of how good the guy is and that he is used in many ways in the Saints offense. The only thing that I'm "holding on to" is the Saints Superbowl win with PT starting as RB. Pierre is the Saints best and most complete back.

I get tired of beating this drum Strato LOL..

But to all please tell me know what makes you "think" he can't screen or catch out of the backfield?


He has been thrown to once in regular season. Against Tampa Bay. 17 yards!

If you want to count preseason.. He was thrown to once against San Diego... That one he took 76 yards for a TD.

All 3 for sure