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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The article's premise is basically, "Drew has better numbers in almost every category than Ryan, but he throws more interceptions and makes more mistakes per game. So let's arbitrarily use that as a reason to change Drew's numbers around, subtracting ...

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Old 12-27-2010, 11:50 AM   #21
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The article's premise is basically, "Drew has better numbers in almost every category than Ryan, but he throws more interceptions and makes more mistakes per game. So let's arbitrarily use that as a reason to change Drew's numbers around, subtracting stuff from Drew's totals, in order to make Ryan's numbers magically appear better than Drew's, after we subtract a bunch of yardage from Drew."

In some categories and percentages, the two QB's are close this year. In other categories, they are not even remotely similar numbers. Long 30+ yard touchdown passes being one of them, and I'll take that number over Ryan's high percentages on 5 yard dink and dunks, which are absolutely the same as Drew's. Who is "better," who would you rather have on your team -- the guy who can throw 5 yard dink and dunks consistently all day long, or the guy who can do that same thing, AND throw a bomb or a quick strike for a lightning TD every now and then?
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:24 PM   #22
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Ice is good, maybe a top 10 NFL QB, but has to rank below Brees and is definitely not top 5.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:28 PM   #23
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This jackass, self-proclaimed "football scientist", arbitrarily picks two stats to make a case for labeling the reigning Super Bowl MVP as worse than another QB? Interesting. Ryan is a very good quarterback, but anybody who thinks he is better than Drew Brees is either trying to stir **** up, doesn't actually watch the NFL, or is high as a kite.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:36 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
This jackass, self-proclaimed "football scientist", arbitrarily picks two stats to make a case for labeling the reigning Super Bowl MVP as worse than another QB? Interesting. Ryan is a very good quarterback, but anybody who thinks he is better than Drew Brees is either trying to stir **** up, doesn't actually watch the NFL, or is high as a kite.
True, using his "one stat" conclusions I can probably state a case for Chad Henne being a better QB than Tom Brady.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:40 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
Ice is good, maybe a top 10 NFL QB, but has to rank below Brees and is definitely not top 5.
I mean, he doesn't suck, but to call him top 10...

Manning
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Rogers
Rothlesburger

Without looking these are the names that come up immediately for me. These are the guys who can win a game for you almost by themselves. I'm going to add Vick too, because, while he's not a great QB, he is much better than his pre-prison days and is certainly dynamic...

Vick

So now who? I've got 7. The other Manning? Cutler? Shaub? Freeman even? Maybe? Where do the bus drivers like Matt Ryan land in the list? And let's be real. He's a bus driver at this point in his career...albeit a decent one...but still. Without Turner-the-human-bowling-ball running back, where the hell is Matt Ryan?

I gotta tell ya. I'd take Josh Freeman LONG before I'd take Matt Ryan. Now that's just me...

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True, using his "one stat" conclusions I can probably state a case for Chad Henne being a better QB than Tom Brady.
False, according to ESPN, nobody has ever or will ever be as good as "Tom Terrific" at anything.
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I gotta tell ya. I'd take Josh Freeman LONG before I'd take Matt Ryan. Now that's just me...
He is gonna give us serious trouble for the next 10 years. That kids gonna be a star.
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Old 12-27-2010, 02:39 PM   #28
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The most important aspect of the article is that Drew is dramatically better at throwing the deep ball. Heck, even I can throw dink and dunk passes........but that doesn't make me better than Drew. What a bunch of morons!
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Do the Sports writer smoke weed at ESPN ?
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I want to thank Pakowitz for posting the article.It was good for a laugh anyway.I'll throw some rep your way.
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