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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; What could be available at Pick 24? 2010: WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State to Dallas Cowboys 2009: DT Peria Jerry, Mississippi to Atlanta Falcons 2008: RB Chris Johnson, East Carolina to Tennessee Titans 2007: S Brandon Meriweather, Miami (Fla.) to ...

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Old 03-17-2011, 08:38 PM   #231
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What could be available at Pick 24?

2010: WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State to Dallas Cowboys

2009: DT Peria Jerry, Mississippi to Atlanta Falcons

2008: RB Chris Johnson, East Carolina to Tennessee Titans

2007: S Brandon Meriweather, Miami (Fla.) to New England Patriots

2006: CB Jonathan Joseph, South Carolina to Cincinnati

2005: QB Aaron Rodgers, California to Green Bay Packers

2004: RB Steven Jackson, Oregon State to St. Louis Rams

2003: TE Dallas Clark, Iowa to Indianapolis
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:36 AM   #232
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JP's Saints Mock Draft (Wish List):

R1/24 Muhammad Wilkerson, DT - Temple (HT: 6-5 - WT: 305)

Athletic Big Man who would be a natural DE in a 3-4 alignment; but with his athletic ability could be a freak at the 3-technique positon; moving up draft boards into the first round now...

Alternate Picks: Ryan Kerrigan, DE; Julio Jones, WR


R2/56 Mason Foster, WLB - Washington (HT: 6-1⅛ - WT: 241)

Marginal measurables, but his film tells a different story; he can bring the wood; John Madden/Mike Ditka type of player, old school; Durable and productive; Team Player...

Alternate Picks: Bruce Carter, OLB; Robert Sands, S


R3/72 Quinton Carter, S - Oklahoma (HT: 6-0⅝ - WT: 211)

Go to Roman Harper's Wikipedia page and you'll see 'em swinging a golf club; picking Carter would keep 'em there; he has excellent coverage skills at S: Fluid, Good Angles, Smart and has excellent community track record; not sure he's be there this late but would be a steal at this slot ...

Alternate Picks: Jarvis Jenkins, DT


R3/88 Pierre Allen, DE - Nebraska (HT: 6-3⅞ - WT: 273)

Natural Leader; Has very good, maybe not elite, physical tools; though sacks declined with departure of Suh last season, tackles for loss went up; disciplined end who maintains assignment/area; would be an excellent rotation player at the very least early in his career...

Alternate Picks: Casey Matthews, LB; Joseph Barksdale, OT


R7/215 Willie Smith, T - East Carolina (HT: 6-5 - WT: 310)

Good Size, Range; key component to helping his school set new performance records on offense; unofficial stat of 40+ knockdowns (i.e. pancakes, slammers) while playing in Conference USA; former Tight End whose made transition to Left Tackle, so he could fit in with Coach Payton's player eligible play calling; could look to replenish depth should Bushrod or Strief depart...

Alternate Picks: Alex Henery, K; Kenrick Ellis, DT

Analysis: The NFL is a coin flip. And the playoff loss to Seattle taught the Saints what happens when one side of the coin (Defense) is playing poorly. There is no question this list is Defense, but it is where most value is for the Saints at their current picks.

While I'd hate to lose depth, I do believe Arrington needs a chance to play at WR and having Henderson and Moore stunts that growth. Now, I would not move Moore unless Julio Jones fell to the Saints in Round 1.

Julio Jones is the only offensive player I'd consider taking late in Round 1 despite good value at OT. The days of taking a RB in Round 1 are over unless it is Barry Sanders reincarnate. But Muhammad improves the team and gives the Saints an All-Pro in the making as an underclassman.

Admittedly I'm not very high on Pac 10 players; but the more I see of Mason Foster the more I think Football Player; would like to see the height for this 4-3 LB to be 6-3, but he plays that size.

In the third round, we've some options; though I like where we pick in early round three, am still disappointed that was the only value we got for a ProBowl LT in Brown (even if I didn't like Brown). Getting Quinton Carter and someone like Pierre Allen in Round 3 would definitely be salve for the wound of the screwing we took (Redskins/Shanahan double whammy).

Rounds 4,5,6 we sit; David Thomas has been an underrated contributor, but when you consider what we invested in TE with Shockey, Thomas, and Graham (and I liked the selection of Graham at the time of the draft) I think it's been a bit much and something the Saints need to review.

Round 7 has been good to the Saints when you look at Colston and Arrington (though he needs a chance to play); Should Willie Smith who's rated a R7 pick be there, he'd be a steal; but I suspect some Scouts are not being honest and will have their teams nab him around Round 4.

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Old 03-21-2011, 07:30 AM   #233
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JP's Saints Mock Draft (Wish List):

R1/24 Muhammad Wilkerson, DT - Temple (HT: 6-5 - WT: 305)

Athletic Big Man who would be a natural DE in a 3-4 alignment; but with his athletic ability could be a freak at the 3-technique positon; moving up draft boards into the first round now...

Alternate Picks: Corey Liuget, DT - Illinois (HT: 6-2⅛ - WT: 305) ; Julio Jones, WR - Alabama (HT: 6-2¾ - WT: 220)


R2/56 Mason Foster, WLB - Washington (HT: 6-1⅛ - WT: 241)

Marginal measurables, but his film tells a different story; he can bring the wood; John Madden/Mike Ditka type of player, old school; Durable and productive; Team Player...

Alternate Picks: Robert Sands, S - West Virginia (HT: 6-4⅜ - WT: 217) ; Ryan Williams, RB - Virginia Tech (HT: 5-9⅜ - WT: 212)


R3/72 Quinton Carter, S - Oklahoma (HT: 6-0⅝ - WT: 211)

Go to Roman Harper's Wikipedia page and you'll see 'em swinging a golf club; picking Carter would keep 'em there; he has excellent coverage skills at S: Fluid, Good Angles, Smart and has excellent community track record; not sure he's be there this late but would be a steal at this slot ...

Alternate Picks: K.J. Wright, OLB - Mississippi St. (HT: 6-3⅜ - WT: 246) ; DeMarco Murray - Oklahoma (HT: 6-0 - WT: 213)


R3/88 Pierre Allen, DE - Nebraska (HT: 6-3⅞ - WT: 273)

Natural Leader; Has very good, maybe not elite, physical tools; though sacks declined with departure of Suh last season, tackles for loss went up; disciplined end who maintains assignment/area; would be an excellent rotation player at the very least early in his career...

Alternate Picks: Joseph Barksdale, OT - LSU (HT: 6-4¾ - WT: 325); Da'Rel Scott, RB - Maryland (HT: 5-11 - WT: 211)


R7/215 Willie Smith, T - East Carolina (HT: 6-5 - WT: 310)

Good Size, Range; key component to helping his school set new performance records on offense; unofficial stat of 40+ knockdowns (i.e. pancakes, slammers) while playing in Conference USA; former Tight End whose made transition to Left Tackle, so he could fit in with Coach Payton's player eligible play calling; could look to replenish depth should Bushrod or Strief depart...

Alternate Picks: Dion Lewis, RB - Pittsburgh (HT: 5-6⅝ - WT: 193) Alex Henery, K; Ugo Chinasa, DE - Oklahoma St. (HT: 6-5⅛ - WT: 254)

Analysis: The NFL is a coin flip. And the playoff loss to Seattle taught the Saints what happens when one side of the coin (Defense) is playing poorly. There is no question this list is Defense, but it is where most value is for the Saints at their current picks.

While I'd hate to lose depth, I do believe Arrington needs a chance to play at WR and having Henderson and Moore stunts that growth. Now, I would not move Moore unless Julio Jones fell to the Saints in Round 1.

Julio Jones is the only offensive player I'd consider taking late in Round 1 despite good value at OT. The days of taking a RB in Round 1 are over unless it is Barry Sanders reincarnate. But Muhammad improves the team and gives the Saints an All-Pro in the making as an underclassman.

Admittedly I'm not very high on Pac 10 players; but the more I see of Mason Foster the more I think Football Player; would like to see the height for this 4-3 LB to be 6-3, but he plays that size.

In the third round, we've some options; though I like where we pick in early round three, am still disappointed that was the only value we got for a ProBowl LT in Brown (even if I didn't like Brown). Getting Quinton Carter and someone like Pierre Allen in Round 3 would definitely be salve for the wound of the screwing we took (Redskins/Shanahan double whammy).

Rounds 4,5,6 we sit; David Thomas has been an underrated contributor, but when you consider what we invested in TE with Shockey, Thomas, and Graham (and I liked the selection of Graham at the time of the draft) I think it's been a bit much and something the Saints need to review.

Round 7 has been good to the Saints when you look at Colston and Arrington (though he needs a chance to play); Should Willie Smith who's rated a R7 pick be there, he'd be a steal; but I suspect some Scouts are not being honest and will have their teams nab him around Round 4.

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Old 03-21-2011, 09:21 AM   #234
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Maybe it was their quarterback play in Alabama and maybe it wasn't... but he did not play up to his potential at Alabama. Sure he's a physical freak, but AJ Green is polished an a absolute monster. I can't remember ever labeling a WR this early(because yea it's premature and stupid), but if Green stays healthy throughout his career, I can see him knocking on Canton's door when it's all said and done.
It's all about where they're drafted. Land in St. Louis - you could grow with a future, star QB. Land in Cleveland and you may never make a Pro Bowl.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:39 AM   #235
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If someway Julio Jones falls to the Saints Loomis better sprint that pick in, doubt it happens but this offense would be unstoppable
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:48 PM   #236
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 View Post
If someway Julio Jones falls to the Saints Loomis better sprint that pick in, doubt it happens but this offense would be unstoppable
That's what I'm talking 'bout!
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:04 AM   #237
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If someway Julio Jones falls to the Saints Loomis better sprint that pick in, doubt it happens but this offense would be unstoppable
Julio would be our Anquan Boldin, but faster.
Wouldn't be our #1 WR but a "nice compliment" to the receivers we have.
Probably would mean Devery would be expendable.
Skip all the talk of drafting another TE, because Julio could easily block OLBs in the run game.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:36 PM   #238
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Julio would be our Anquan Boldin, but faster.
Wouldn't be our #1 WR but a "nice compliment" to the receivers we have.
Probably would mean Devery would be expendable.
Skip all the talk of drafting another TE, because Julio could easily block OLBs in the run game.
That's nice that he's a team player but I don't want to draft him to block; but the blocking is definitely a bonus.
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Old 03-23-2011, 07:48 AM   #239
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Julio would be our Anquan Boldin, but faster.
Wouldn't be our #1 WR but a "nice compliment" to the receivers we have.
Probably would mean Devery would be expendable.
Skip all the talk of drafting another TE, because Julio could easily block OLBs in the run game.
His hands are a lot lke Colstons. He can snatch just about anything near him, but will occasionally drop a few that hit him right in his hands. He sometimes turns to run before catching the ball.

Not real bad, but he'll drop 4 or 5 like that every year.

Just imagine Colston with 4.3 speed.

I place WR near the very bottom of our list of needs, but if he's there at 24, we have to pick him.

I don't think the foot injury will drop him that much though.
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That's nice that he's a team player but I don't want to draft him to block; but the blocking is definitely a bonus.
Every WR blocks. Those who can't really stand out - not in a good way.

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His hands are a lot lke Colstons. He can snatch just about anything near him, but will occasionally drop a few that hit him right in his hands. He sometimes turns to run before catching the ball.

Not real bad, but he'll drop 4 or 5 like that every year.

Just imagine Colston with 4.3 speed.

I place WR near the very bottom of our list of needs, but if he's there at 24, we have to pick him.

I don't think the foot injury will drop him that much though.
Yep, totally agree w your assessment of JJ. But IMHO, we still need another WR - a "Colston with 4.3 speed".

Hell, maybe that's Jimmy Graham...? Especially considering how much Payton uses his TE.

To me, Meachem is a younger, faster Devery with better hands. Stretch the field and catch 3-4 passes per game w the occasional 40yd TD.

That said, I don't see us drafting a WR before the 4th round.
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